Scottish Indyref 2 • Non-Gaming • News and Politics • Eurogamer.net

Armoured_Bear 13 Mar 2017 11:49:00 31,233 posts
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Deleted user 13 March 2017 11:50:01

meh, Scotland are in an even worse position than they were last time and being a part of the EU wont help that.

Goban 13 Mar 2017 11:50:23 10,121 posts
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Really? I've become rather disillusioned with referendums.

Armoured_Bear 13 Mar 2017 11:51:46 31,233 posts
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BBC live link

Blurp 13 Mar 2017 11:53:05 1,447 posts
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Why the fuck would Scotland want to leave their closest union just so they can (attempt and probably fail to) join another one? I hate nationalism.

Goban 13 Mar 2017 11:53:16 10,121 posts
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Fair enough, we have all been sold a lemon with brexit.

twelveways 13 Mar 2017 11:53:25 7,131 posts
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Britain is shit now, I'm looking to change my nationality and I can't blame Scotland for wanting to do the same. Fuck it, leave the rotting, bloated carcass for the Tory fucks to pick over.

Blurp 13 Mar 2017 11:53:35 1,447 posts
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Once in a lifetime they said.

LetsGoAGAIN 13 Mar 2017 11:54:57 721 posts
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Ha, love it!

- a) she can't call an indyref2, only the UK PM can, she can only 'ask'
- b) if it's Leave, good luck with the Euro (which Scotland would need to have if they join the EU - reguardless what she says)

Edited by LetsGoAGAIN at 11:55:20 13-03-2017

Armoured_Bear 13 Mar 2017 11:55:34 31,233 posts
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LetsGoAGAIN wrote:
Ha, love it!

- a) she can't call an indyref2, only the UK PM can, she can only 'ask'
- b) if it's Leave, good luck with the Euro (which Scotland would need to have if they join the EU - reguardless what she says)

Shut up.

Blurp 13 Mar 2017 11:55:54 1,447 posts
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Shut up LetsGo.

Armoured_Bear 13 Mar 2017 11:56:21 31,233 posts
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Blurp wrote:
Once in a lifetime they said.

You would be well-served to follow the link and read/listen to the speech.

Goban 13 Mar 2017 11:57:02 10,121 posts
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Once in a lifetime unless there was some material change. Leaving the EU is a rather large change.

I really hate the UK attitude these days and would personally take quite a severe financial hit to live in a more inclusive, compassionate and socially conscious country.

It's not always about fucking money.

Edited by Goban at 11:57:48 13-03-2017

Blurp 13 Mar 2017 11:59:04 1,447 posts
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Armoured_Bear wrote:

Blurp wrote:
Once in a lifetime they said.
You would be well-served to follow the link and read/listen to the speech.

Fundamentals have changed, blah blah blah. Some shit about that yeah?

LetsGoAGAIN 13 Mar 2017 12:00:40 721 posts
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I look forward to them stating about AGAIN how the oil fields will mean they will have millions and millions of monies!

/looks at oil price
/looks at recent oil production in Scotland

oops!

Blurp 13 Mar 2017 12:00:47 1,447 posts
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I think it would be hilarious if Scotland left the UK because they don't want to leave the EU, and then not be allowed to join the EU because of their deficit.

Armoured_Bear 13 Mar 2017 12:03:25 31,233 posts
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LetsGoAGAIN wrote:
I look forward to them stating about AGAIN how the oil fields will mean they will have millions and millions of monies!

/looks at oil price
/looks at recent oil production in Scotland

oops!

Shut up.

Duffking 13 Mar 2017 12:05:04 16,964 posts
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I don't get why right wingers are so angry about this prospect anyway, it would basically guarantee tory rule in the UK forver so I'd have thought they'd welcome the transition to a one party state.

Deleted user 13 March 2017 12:07:09

Don't blame them. At least someone in the country is speaking up for people who voted remain. The way the tories bang on you'd think leave won by 99%. They keep banging on about it being a clear mandate and that the people have spoken. They won by the skin of their teeth based on a load of lies and spin.

I'll probably move to edinburgh if this happens.

Deleted user 13 March 2017 12:07:19

@Duffking its because no one is stupid (not even letsgo - hopefully!) enough not to realise that UK without Scotland is not as strong as UK with Scotland. We need them as much as they need us.

Technoishmatt 13 Mar 2017 12:08:01 5,365 posts
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Cos the full name of the party is the Conservative and Union party or something like that.

Blurp 13 Mar 2017 12:08:14 1,447 posts
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How would they control the border if they were part of the EU?

Deleted user 13 March 2017 12:09:32

@Blurp Same way as other countries i would imagine...

Though much easier because it is like 100 feet across

Duffking 13 Mar 2017 12:10:52 16,964 posts
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The real question is why the Scottish hate bendy bananas so much

DFawkes 13 Mar 2017 12:11:53 32,785 posts
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Blurp wrote:
I think it would be hilarious if Scotland left the UK because they don't want to leave the EU, and then not be allowed to join the EU because of their deficit.

The theory is we wouldn't need to reapply, as we're already a member. Please don't get me wrong here, I find it massively improbable that it could go that way, especially in such a hugely complicated situation. We'd have a country splitting into 2, just as that country is leaving another union. There's no legal precedence there, and no quick and easy definite answer how it might go.

My gut says it'd take so long to seperate we'd be out of the EU first, then would have to re-apply, but my gut isn't qualified to give legal advice

Edited by DFawkes at 12:13:54 13-03-2017

Blurp 13 Mar 2017 12:15:16 1,447 posts
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DFawkes wrote:

Blurp wrote:
I think it would be hilarious if Scotland left the UK because they don't want to leave the EU, and then not be allowed to join the EU because of their deficit.
The theory is we wouldn't need to reapply, as we're already a member. Please don't get me wrong here, I find it massively improbable that it could go that way, especially in such a hugely complicated situation. We'd have a country splitting into 2, just as that country is leaving another union. There's no legal precedence there, and no quick and easy definite answer how it might go.

My gut says it'd take so long to seperate we'd be out of the EU first, then would have to re-apply, but my gut isn't qualified to give legal advice

I think the real question is; does the EU want Scotland?

MrTomFTW Moderator 13 Mar 2017 12:18:20 47,501 posts
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I imagine the people who are so angry about this, ironically who also tend to be Brexiteers, because it'd mean their all important decision to leave the EU would also mean the end of the United Kingdom.

Especially once Ireland becomes unified.

oceanmotion 13 Mar 2017 12:23:35 17,358 posts
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UK wants free trade with everyone so should work out fine.

DanoFNG 13 Mar 2017 12:27:46 370 posts
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I was on the fence last time but this time it's a firm yes from me.

Frogofdoom 13 Mar 2017 12:35:49 17,973 posts
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They took that rugby result terribly didnt they.