Following So, it turns out JonTron is a bit of a dick...

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  • INSOMANiAC 13 Mar 2017 22:28:09 4,732 posts
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    shame really, I've always liked his videos but he has some pretty extreme views on race and immigration. I've been having a read of his Twitter and he's either having some kind of meltdown or he's just a simpleton, either way, it's a shame these YouTube characters don't seem to have any kind of semblance of how their views may affect their generally younger audience.
  • Dirtbox 13 Mar 2017 22:33:41 92,595 posts
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  • senso-ji 13 Mar 2017 22:37:35 10,271 posts
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    Is this one of those situations where he'll get into trouble over it with his MCN, then claim he was arguing against discrimination in his own 'zany' way? He'll probably point to his mixed ethnic heritage as defense.
  • Dirtbox 13 Mar 2017 22:40:29 92,595 posts
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  • Duffking 13 Mar 2017 22:46:45 16,964 posts
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    senso-ji wrote:
    Is this one of those situations where he'll get into trouble over it with his MCN, then claim he was arguing against discrimination in his own 'zany' way? He'll probably point to his mixed ethnic heritage as defense.
    No, he's got a track record with this stuff. As much as I'm tempted to think it could be a case of this:



    It seems more likely that he's always been a bit of a shit, especially when you look at some older gamegrumps clips.
  • senso-ji 13 Mar 2017 22:50:37 10,271 posts
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    I'll admit I've only watched one JonTron video; his Hercules games review, which was hilarious, but for some reason didn't make me want to watch more of his stuff. Don't follow the guy's work regularly and have never seen any of his streams. If he's a cunt in general, then that won't surprise me.
  • Armoured_Bear 13 Mar 2017 23:02:05 31,233 posts
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    Aren't pretty much all YT "celebrities" either annoying and/or total wankers?
  • shamblemonkee 13 Mar 2017 23:05:59 17,967 posts
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    #markandlard Whoooooooooooooo?
  • DFawkes 13 Mar 2017 23:12:40 32,785 posts
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    HappyGator wrote:
    Using Gizmodo as a source isn't exactly a good idea either, they're clickbaiters.
    Which is why Dirtbox linked directly to the source :)
  • Tuffty 14 Mar 2017 00:11:11 4,954 posts
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    So according to the world of Jontron, Mexican immigrants are 'invading' America in order to reclaim land for Mexico, foreigners dilute the gene pool, Black crime in America is the same as in Africa and racism is over. Oh but the richest black person commits more crimes than the poorest white person purely by the virtue of their skin colour, not for socio-economic reasons.

    If you're siding with David Duke in an argument, then wow you fucked up in life. No clue how these people, whose job relies on their brand, are ok with being known to be so terrible. I would ask for him to stop, but the insanity of saying these things without sources and getting called out for it, is too good not to continue to watch.

    Edited by Tuffty at 00:16:03 14-03-2017
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 14 Mar 2017 00:23:30 19,992 posts
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    I quite like Did You Know Gaming, it's a real pity to hear its run by a total fuckwit
  • Mola_Ram 14 Mar 2017 03:16:49 26,187 posts
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    Prominent online celebrity in "knows very little about important real-world issues" shocker.

    I dunno, I mostly loathe what social media has done to our conversations about things, but it's been very useful in revealing idiots that might have otherwise remained hidden.
  • Khanivor 14 Mar 2017 03:19:03 44,800 posts
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    Lol, check the chucklefuck out.
  • INSOMANiAC 14 Mar 2017 05:40:49 4,732 posts
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    I just listened to the whole two hours and it's pretty bad. He starts off wanting to defend white Americans wanting the country to remain white, saying they should be allowed to say they want to remain the majority and they fear being seen as racist. So far so not so controversial, he sees it as hypocritical that white people seemingly can't express their views like other races can. When he's pushed a little though he really does start to spew some quite remarkable bollocks and simplistic world views, the kind of stuff someone might have at the age of 15 before they've become a more rounded and reasonable person.

    He basically states that Mexicans only go to America to get benefits and send them back home, that's blacks are responsible for most of the crime in the country, that Europe is having race riots in the streets, that the Irish weren't really discriminated against in America, and if they were it was maybe because they were bad people. He states that black lives matter is not wanting to discuss race and promotes violence

    He goes on and on and on digging himself a bigger and bigger hole, armed with views he's formed without facts and having clearly only ever read select articles on. He sways between seeking to say things more desperately just to try and win a point and seeming just a little naive and stupid and yet there's also the feeling he's holding back time and time again from what he really thinks, which is clearly a far more racist tone than he's already shown.

    He basically just your typical 'other races are all bad' simpleton who has no grasp whatsoever of anything in any meaningful scale. As I say it's the ill educated rantings of someone with a lot to say without the intelligence to say it. My favourite part is, after explaining the 'problem' the country has with Mexicans and blacks, that he then tells us that discrimination no longer exists in America and anyone who says otherwise is talking nonsense.

    Edited by INSOMANiAC at 05:43:18 14-03-2017
  • MrTomFTW Moderator 14 Mar 2017 06:47:22 47,501 posts
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    The first time I heard of this tool was when people started RTing his mini-Hitler rants. "Jafari" though? Let's hope he doesn't leave the US any time soon - they won't let him back in with that name!

    Which is ironic seeing how he's gone all white supremacist.
  • Decks 14 Mar 2017 07:15:13 31,013 posts
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    Not to be that guy but who the fuck is he? Like how do people know who these people are? Am I missing a news letter or something?
  • Deleted user 14 March 2017 07:47:39
    Decks wrote:
    Not to be that guy but who the fuck is he? Like how do people know who these people are? Am I missing a news letter or something?
    This.

    First Jim Stirling and now this. I've no idea who these people are. I guess i should be thankful?
  • Mola_Ram 14 Mar 2017 07:50:07 26,187 posts
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    Pipe down grandpa.
  • Deleted user 14 March 2017 08:08:32
    Some other guy has been sacked off from his YouTube job for tweeting something along the lines of "Ah no women around today. Peace and quiet" on world woman's day. That's my summary of the situation.
  • Mola_Ram 14 Mar 2017 08:20:42 26,187 posts
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    But that's basically the equivalent of going into the world's biggest public square, with a megaphone and large hat that reads "I am an employee and representative of this company", and shouting as loud as possible about how great it is that women aren't around. Because women are noisy and annoying, am I right?

    What do people think will happen?
  • jimnastics 14 Mar 2017 08:26:37 1,893 posts
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    addyb wrote:
    Decks wrote:
    Not to be that guy but who the fuck is he? Like how do people know who these people are? Am I missing a news letter or something?
    This.

    First Jim Stirling and now this. I've no idea who these people are. I guess i should be thankful?
    I'm in the same boat but, having had a conversation with my little nephew about this, it does genuinelly seem the tide is turning from TV celebrities to Youtube / Twitch celebrities. There is not a lot of difference when you boil it all down.
  • MrTomFTW Moderator 14 Mar 2017 08:28:55 47,501 posts
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    H1ggyLTD wrote:
    anybody got a link to HappyGator's channel?
    He doesn't need one, he says all his questionable, offensive shit in the comments of this very website.

    Actually, going back the words "thin" and "ice" do pop into my mind.
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