Following So, it turns out JonTron is a bit of a dick... Page 2

  • MrTomFTW Moderator 14 Mar 2017 08:34:33 47,501 posts
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    jimnastics wrote:
    I'm in the same boat but, having had a conversation with my little nephew about this, it does genuinelly seem the tide is turning from TV celebrities to Youtube / Twitch celebrities. There is not a lot of difference when you boil it all down.
    Exactly. My kids don't watch normal TV. They can if they want - the means are there, but they'd rather stick the PlayStation on watch Stampycat and his mates, or EthanGaming (himself only a young boy) or one of those channels. They say TV is a terrible babysitter, but at least that's regulated - I have to monitor their activity just in case they wander upon a channel with swearing, or even worse someone fucking dropping a "Death To All Jews" equivalent "joke" in there.

    The likes of JonTron have a young audience, brought in by his Lets Play vids, and the next thing you know his fans are being told that the white race is being genocided. You don't need your kids hearing that shit.
  • Decks 14 Mar 2017 08:39:05 31,013 posts
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    It's like finding out the woman who farted like chewbacca is a member of the Ku Klux Klan.
  • nickthegun 14 Mar 2017 08:49:35 87,711 posts
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    I think the 'career over' thing is a bit premature. If the recent betting stuff and PDPs casual facism are anything to go by, his next video will be flooded with 'WE STILL BELIVE IN U JON' comments and it will be business as usual.
  • Deleted user 14 March 2017 08:51:51
    Yeah, terrestrial TV is a dead duck. And who watches a dead duck? Not even it's mother
  • MrTomFTW Moderator 14 Mar 2017 08:56:03 47,501 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    I think the 'career over' thing is a bit premature. If the recent betting stuff and PDPs casual facism are anything to go by, his next video will be flooded with 'WE STILL BELIVE IN U JON' comments and it will be business as usual.
    Well if nothing else, his fans in his sub-Reddit seem less than pleased: https://www.reddit.com/r/JonTron/
  • neilka 14 Mar 2017 08:58:44 24,021 posts
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    I think it's only fair to reveal that I once punched a ring-tailed lemur in the face.
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    That's pretty good going, I saw a red lemur (it may have been El cucuy) in Mexico a couple weeks back and it didn't even wait for me to finish shadow boxing before it took off
  • Decks 14 Mar 2017 09:04:46 31,013 posts
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    Yeah as something of a internet personality myself I feel I need to confess that as a child on more than one occasion I pulled my eyes slinty and done a Chinese voice. I also have on occasion put my tongue into the bit of skin under my lip and made mongoloid noises. I'm not proud of it but it was a different time back then.
  • MrTomFTW Moderator 14 Mar 2017 09:11:16 47,501 posts
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    Decks wrote:
    Yeah as something of a internet personality myself I feel I need to confess that as a child on more than one occasion I pulled my eyes slinty and done a Chinese voice. I also have on occasion put my tongue into the bit of skin under my lip and made mongoloid noises. I'm not proud of it but it was a different time back then.
    In all seriousness though, as kids we didn't know better, it's what passed for comedy on the playground and if everyone else was doing it, it's fine right? I bet I did the same, but you don't realise until someone says "hey, that's not acceptable" or maybe figure it out for yourself. Hopefully anyway - UKIP et al shows there's still adults out there that haven't really moved on.

    Which is the situation here too, you run the risk of kids seeing the things he writes and says and thinking this sort of shit is normal.

    Edited by MrTomFTW at 09:12:36 14-03-2017
  • Armoured_Bear 14 Mar 2017 09:13:40 31,233 posts
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    It's only kids that watch these YT celebrity shows, isn't it?
    That's why they always annoying as fuck to an adult.
  • Duffking 14 Mar 2017 09:22:41 16,964 posts
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    hah



    I feel like Jon took a gamble and assumed his audience were all as shitty as he is.
  • Duffking 14 Mar 2017 09:26:27 16,964 posts
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    ooooh I don't know, maybe because they might face discrimination?



    right
  • Deleted user 14 March 2017 09:28:22
    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    It's only kids that watch these YT celebrity shows, isn't it?
    That's why they always annoying as fuck to an adult.
    I watch David Dobrik because although it's really silly it's also at times really funny.

    Sorry, I mean YEAH! STUPID KIDS DON'T KNOW SHIT.

    Hmm, why am I replying to ecosse, he has me on ignore
  • frightlever 14 Mar 2017 09:30:43 1,524 posts
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    Duffking wrote:
    I feel like Jon took a gamble and assumed his audience were all as shitty as he is.
    JonTron is of Iranian descent and his parents (or at least his father) were immigrants, as I understand it. So, this is a bit more disturbing than that. It's kinda like the two African American ladies who were on Newsnight defending Trump like he was Jesus.

    Perhaps it's pandering to an imagined audience, perhaps it's actual systemic indoctrination.

    A few years ago I would have said that given time society would naturally become more tolerant to minorities of every stripe. Not quite so optimistic now. It doesn't just seem to be a matter of waiting for the older generations to die off.

    Edited by frightlever at 09:31:40 14-03-2017
  • nickthegun 14 Mar 2017 09:41:01 87,711 posts
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    A psychologist could probably have a field day studying the case of the half Iranian son of immigrants who spent so long on the internet, he turned into a white nationalist.
  • challenge_hanukkah 14 Mar 2017 09:41:24 14,394 posts
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    frightlever wrote:
    Duffking wrote:
    I feel like Jon took a gamble and assumed his audience were all as shitty as he is.
    A few years ago I would have said that given time society would naturally become more tolerant to minorities of every stripe. Not quite so optimistic now. It doesn't just seem to be a matter of waiting for the older generations to die off.
    This.
  • Mola_Ram 14 Mar 2017 09:44:09 26,187 posts
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    Yeah, it's not going to end when the older generations go. There's loads and loads of young and middle aged idiots, probably even more than there are elderly ones.
  • the_milkybar_kid 14 Mar 2017 09:55:37 8,474 posts
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    Only seen a few of his videos in the past and he seems like a right dickhead.
  • senso-ji 14 Mar 2017 10:00:14 10,271 posts
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    frightlever wrote:

    JonTron is of Iranian descent and his parents (or at least his father) were immigrants, as I understand it. So, this is a bit more disturbing than that. It's kinda like the two African American ladies who were on Newsnight defending Trump like he was Jesus.

    Perhaps it's pandering to an imagined audience, perhaps it's actual systemic indoctrination.

    Winston Churchill put it best:

    An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
    I suppose he could have shit himself after the US election results, and now feels threatened that he'll be singled out. Not an excuse, just a theory.
  • Duffking 14 Mar 2017 10:18:15 16,964 posts
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    Massively unsurprisngly, other youtube dickhead TotalBiscuit is apparently rushing to JonTron's defense. Apparently we should give JonTron the benefit of the doubt! Ok, I will - luckily there's no fucking doubt that he's a stone-cold racist cunt.

    Edited by Duffking at 10:31:06 14-03-2017
  • disusedgenius 14 Mar 2017 10:27:37 10,677 posts
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    Duffking wrote:
    Massively unsurprisngly, other youtube dickhead TotalBiscuit is apparently rushing to JonTron's defense.
    Interesting take on his response, there.
  • AceGrace 14 Mar 2017 10:52:23 3,464 posts
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    addyb wrote:
    Decks wrote:
    Not to be that guy but who the fuck is he? Like how do people know who these people are? Am I missing a news letter or something?
    This.

    First Jim Stirling and now this. I've no idea who these people are. I guess i should be thankful?
    Same here. Not a clue who he is. Don't really care. Just another person flapping their lips about. I've got better things to do.
  • AceGrace 14 Mar 2017 10:53:58 3,464 posts
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    Decks wrote:
    It's like finding out the woman who farted like chewbacca is a member of the Ku Klux Klan.
    I wouldn't mind that to be honest if she was. She farts like Chewbacca.

    Edited by AceGrace at 10:54:13 14-03-2017
  • AceGrace 14 Mar 2017 10:56:44 3,464 posts
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    PES_Fanboy wrote:
    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    It's only kids that watch these YT celebrity shows, isn't it?
    That's why they always annoying as fuck to an adult.
    I watch David Dobrik because although it's really silly it's also at times really funny.

    Sorry, I mean YEAH! STUPID KIDS DON'T KNOW SHIT.

    Hmm, why am I replying to ecosse, he has me on ignore
    If we all put you on ignore this forum wouldn't have any content.
  • Rivuzu 14 Mar 2017 11:00:56 18,424 posts
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    I'd be wary of trying to draw comparisons between this and PDP's fiasco.

    He made a video to push the limits of what should be acceptable, and fucked up. Not sure how genuine that was, but the following media context issue was the main problem with everyone jumping on the bandwagon and taking his content out of context, including on a video where he discusses the media taking stuff out of context.

    And that shit wasn't great, don't get me wrong. But it's not like he's spurting out some white power nonsense which is on the verge of what JonTron is doing.

    The fat weird beardy prick.
  • technotica 14 Mar 2017 11:01:33 621 posts
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    There would always be spam posts about peoples best friends mothers making millions of dollars with the internet.
  • Rivuzu 14 Mar 2017 11:01:48 18,424 posts
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    @AceGrace I think ecosse has about half of us on ignore now. :D
  • Deleted user 14 March 2017 11:19:28
    @b0rk that's always been my house style user b0rk
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