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  • monkman76 14 Mar 2017 08:35:36 18,987 posts
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    Tonka wrote:
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    So much this. I'm 40, but my first Nintendo console was the Wii U, so I can play the likes of Wind Waker HD without the ludicrous nostalgia baggage and be genuinely astounded that someone could rate that Essential in space year 2015 or whenever it came out.

    "I bought a game I didn't like therefore Nintendo are bad" is not even close to a valid argument. Try to construct one where you leave your personal preferences out.

    I bet you can't. Because as I said, conslol gaming as it exists today was invented by Nintendo. All the games and controllers
    you like are derivatives of the mighty N.
    That isn't even close to my argument though. It's that nostalgia makes people overrate some of Nintendo's releases. I stand by that. I don't dislike Nintendo at all, I like my Wii U and will buy a Switch when it has a few more games.
  • Armoured_Bear 14 Mar 2017 08:37:23 31,233 posts
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    monkman76 wrote:
    Tonka wrote:
    monkman76 wrote:
    So much this. I'm 40, but my first Nintendo console was the Wii U, so I can play the likes of Wind Waker HD without the ludicrous nostalgia baggage and be genuinely astounded that someone could rate that Essential in space year 2015 or whenever it came out.

    "I bought a game I didn't like therefore Nintendo are bad" is not even close to a valid argument. Try to construct one where you leave your personal preferences out.

    I bet you can't. Because as I said, conslol gaming as it exists today was invented by Nintendo. All the games and controllers
    you like are derivatives of the mighty N.
    That isn't even close to my argument though. It's that nostalgia makes people overrate some of Nintendo's releases. I stand by that. I don't dislike Nintendo at all, I like my Wii U and will buy a Switch when it has a few more games.
    Err, what do you base this on?
    Which releases?
  • Deleted user 14 March 2017 08:38:17
    @RobTheBuilder Its to counterbalance the fanboyism.
  • monkman76 14 Mar 2017 08:38:18 18,987 posts
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    That's probably not even it. Let's go with 'people with nostalgia for Nintendo going back to their youth rate certain Nintendo games higher than people who don't have that nostalgia'.
  • Deleted user 14 March 2017 08:38:34
    Awe man, we said his name three times in front of a mirror
  • monkman76 14 Mar 2017 08:40:11 18,987 posts
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    @Armoured_Bear Almost all marquee Mario and Zelda games. In my un-nostalgia-tainted subjective opinion of course.
  • Deleted user 14 March 2017 08:40:43
    monkman76 wrote:
    That's probably not even it. Let's go with 'people with nostalgia for Nintendo going back to their youth rate certain Nintendo games higher than people who don't have that nostalgia'.
    I wouldnt say that is it though. I tend to enjoy nintendos output... i tend to enjoy xbox and ps output too... but not because of nostalgia, but because i enjoy playing the games.

    Also, Mod's can we jettison the thread before it becomes the new Wii U thread.
  • Armoured_Bear 14 Mar 2017 08:42:03 31,233 posts
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    monkman76 wrote:
    @Armoured_Bear Almost all marquee Mario and Zelda games. In my un-nostalgia-tainted subjective opinion of course.
    Super Mario Galaxy games are overrated? Seriously?
  • Armoured_Bear 14 Mar 2017 08:42:17 31,233 posts
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    It’s obvious that Nintendo are head and shoulders above all other developers, their game design, level of polish, perfect controls and art is just brim-filled with joy and fun, the Pstards/XBots who bitch and troll have dark, empty lives. I pity them
  • Deleted user 14 March 2017 08:43:05
    Honestly, i will freely admit i am a fan of nintendos (not because of nostalgia and i dont automatically like everything the do because GO NINTENDO) but for some stupid reason i feel the need to defend my enjoyment of the games. As if peoples opinion on them matters to me more than it should do.

    I think that is why there needs to be a balance.
  • Deleted user 14 March 2017 08:43:26
    @Armoured_Bear Your an idiot!
  • Armoured_Bear 14 Mar 2017 08:45:59 31,233 posts
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    Xbots/PsTards



    Nintendo faithful

  • monkman76 14 Mar 2017 08:46:36 18,987 posts
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    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    It’s obvious that Nintendo are head and shoulders above all other developers, their game design, level of polish, perfect controls and art is just brim-filled with joy and fun, the Pstards/XBots who bitch and troll have dark, empty lives. I pity them
    That's ecosse bingo!
  • ModoX 14 Mar 2017 08:46:56 3,480 posts
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    Most of it stems from ecosse being a bellend.
  • Tonka 14 Mar 2017 08:50:51 31,979 posts
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    monkman76 wrote:
    That isn't even close to my argument though. It's that nostalgia makes people overrate some of Nintendo's releases. I stand by that. I don't dislike Nintendo at all, I like my Wii U and will buy a Switch when it has a few more games.
    My point was that the subjective hatred Nintendo get is based on the fact that everyone knows that Nintendo have done more for console gaming than any other company. Therefore most arguments against Nintendo are atatcks on their fans. Including your repeated ones of "You overrate games" (subtext "You aren't a real gamer")

    Or the "Wii isn't a real console!" (only non-gamers would play it)
    Or "Their consoles are underpowered" (real gamers have more refined tastes)

    etc etc in absurdum
  • Tonka 14 Mar 2017 08:51:42 31,979 posts
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    ModoX wrote:
    null wrote:
    Most of it stems from ecosse being a bellend.
    Guys, I need no further proof of my point.
  • Decks 14 Mar 2017 08:53:03 31,013 posts
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    Watching middle aged men get hyper defensive over a kids toy always confuses me.
  • Armoured_Bear 14 Mar 2017 08:53:12 31,233 posts
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    I'm currently playing BoTW and Paper Mario : Colour Splash, both glorious examples, cute, joyful, humorous unlike the grey, dour, po-faced shooters that XBots love. Amirite?
  • UncleLou Moderator 14 Mar 2017 08:54:10 40,723 posts
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    I absolutely adore BotW, only tried two Zelda games before and thought both were a bit Meh. My first Nintendo console was a DS, but I mostly played third party games on that one. Bought a Wii, but that was a disappointment, mostly. No WiiU.

    Only bought a handful of games for the 3DS, but all were stellar.

    I don't know where I fit in. :-(

    I am a bit surprised by all the complaints that Nintendo rip people off. Vita proprietary memory cards, prices of Microsoft PC games in the Windows 10 store, forced non-compatibility of last-gen gear, they're all as bad as each other. Absolutely nothing special about Nintendo there.

    Edited by UncleLou at 08:54:28 14-03-2017
  • Decks 14 Mar 2017 08:54:54 31,013 posts
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    And watching new ecosse trying to parody old ecosse is also weird and uncomfortable.
  • Deleted user 14 March 2017 08:55:29
    @Decks who is new ecosse?
  • Decks 14 Mar 2017 08:56:14 31,013 posts
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    He's the one that pretends not to be like old ecosse.
  • neilka 14 Mar 2017 08:56:39 24,021 posts
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    Who could hate this guy?!

  • Armoured_Bear 14 Mar 2017 08:56:48 31,233 posts
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    In all seriousness, I really don't get the bitterness and hatred that fanboys display on the internet, they get so angry and bitter about gaming companies. It's proper mental. I suppose you get it with all sorts of shit, cars, PCs, TVs etc. but it's insane. Look at Cappy's Nintendo dribbling, it's as if they were a person that genuinely hurt him.

    tl;dr people are mental but become even more mental on the internet.
  • Armoured_Bear 14 Mar 2017 08:58:06 31,233 posts
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    neilka wrote:
    Who could hate this guy?!

    I think he's a dick tbh, he annoys the shit out of me with his arrogance, ignorance and politician-style interviews.

    Edited by Armoured_Bear at 09:00:03 14-03-2017
  • monkman76 14 Mar 2017 08:58:49 18,987 posts
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    Tonka wrote:
    monkman76 wrote:
    That isn't even close to my argument though. It's that nostalgia makes people overrate some of Nintendo's releases. I stand by that. I don't dislike Nintendo at all, I like my Wii U and will buy a Switch when it has a few more games.
    My point was that the subjective hatred Nintendo get is based on the fact that everyone knows that Nintendo have done more for console gaming than any other company.
    Eh? That's some strange logic.


    Therefore most arguments against Nintendo are atatcks on their fans. Including your repeated ones of "You overrate games" (subtext "You aren't a real gamer")
    Wow, that's some serious leaps there dude. /backs away slowly
  • JoelStinty 14 Mar 2017 09:04:13 9,530 posts
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    I wouldn't read too much into comment sections, they're all a mess. Rare to go into one where it is unanimously positive, If there is one it eventually gets shitted up by someone starting to talk about frame rate or resolution. Most comment sections are toxic.

    But i must admit that Nintendo do seem to stir passion/trolling more than anyone else. I guess equilibrium and all that. They do make some odd decisions that you would expect them to get their head around, but they also make some wonderful decisions that normally leave a mark.

    I guess they follow the beat of their own drum rather than following standards and what others are doing and that upsets some whilst enamours others. I think i fall into the latter category. For me at least it is just about games and they're one of their best out there when it comes to making them, and their hardware/software quirks such as rotating the ds to make a book format or something like streetpass and MiiVerse could only come from Nintendo and generally i don't think those decisions get enough praise.

    I'm an odd one, I very much grew up as a playstation gamer, i had a snes and a gameboy, but the PS1, PS2 was where it was at for me as a teenager, with the odd bit of PC gaming too. But i noticed over the last few years i become a little bit of a nintendo fanboy. I still majorly play the PS4 over any other consoles but i tend to find myself in nintendo forums and defending them a lot. Not sure why. I guess their little quirks leave a lasting impression on me. In that time frame i think my tastes in games has changed a lot too. From software and Platinum games are ones that i always look out for now, and games like Batman Arkham Asylum and Dead Space reminded me how great Metroidvania type games are as well. I have drifted towards gameplay games rather than story games - even thought i really like the likes of Uncharted and Last of us. I guess i just like games and don't give two hoots for hardware stuff and why i really started to like nintendo over the last few years.

    Edited by JoelStinty at 09:06:59 14-03-2017
  • MrTomFTW Moderator 14 Mar 2017 09:04:37 47,501 posts
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    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    neilka wrote:
    Who could hate this guy?!

    I think he's a dick tbh, he annoys the shit out of me with his arrogance, ignorance and politician-style interviews.
    I'm going to tell him you said that, and he will snap you in half like the mammoth he is.
  • Armoured_Bear 14 Mar 2017 09:08:37 31,233 posts
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    MrTomFTW wrote:
    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    neilka wrote:
    Who could hate this guy?!

    I think he's a dick tbh, he annoys the shit out of me with his arrogance, ignorance and politician-style interviews.
    I'm going to tell him you said that, and he will snap you in half like the mammoth he is.
    Shit.
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