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Star Wars Battlefront II • Page 9
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Baihu1983 14,378 posts
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nickthegun 87,712 posts
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Registered 16 years agoI just can't be arsed with it. I've stopped buying games if it takes more than a glance to work out which version to buy and now anything with a loot box is done.
Injustice 2 tested my patience to the limit and you didn't really even need to grind for them.
I didn't buy toys from Argos because I wanted to know which action figure I'm getting, so these can get fucked. -
Rodney 5,029 posts
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Registered 15 years ago@Khanivor
The margins might be smaller on modern games but the sales are a lot higher.
If the market reality is that games aren't profitable at the current price point then publishers should increase the price point, or reign in development budgets, rather than introduce gambling mechanics in games aimed at children. -
gamingdave 5,087 posts
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Registered 18 years agoSuch a shame. I enjoyed bits of the beta, despite being a bit rubbish. But I am simply out if this stays in. I certainly don't have the time for the grind these days, and I'm also certainly not paying for a chance of getting some upgrades I will inevitably need, if I am not going to be completely overpowered by those who do.
Unfortunately, I don't think a lot of people will be aware, and buy it anyway.
F2P models with full price games is simply not on. I'm glad Eurogamer wrote the article on the home page, and I hope more publications do the same. The public really should be made aware that this is going on, so more can vote with their wallets.
Thankfully loot boxes don't appear to have hit Nintendo, and I can't imagine them going that way either, it just doesn't seem them, especially the gambling aspect. So at least I have the Switch for simple fun. That and simple indie titles that haven't forgotten that gaming is supposed to be about fun. -
nickthegun 87,712 posts
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Registered 16 years agoRabbids v Mario has a load of DLC, though, so the sharp practices are seeping in (albeit in a ubi shaped Trojan horse) -
VanillaLake 684 posts
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Registered 7 years agoecu wrote:my brain literally cannot process the multitude of enemies, laser beams, grenades, explosions, everything, just constant, almost 100% of the time you’re playing. Spawning in, dying to random explosions and people you can’t see against the gorgeous backdrops.
Yeah and when you shoot somebody and he kills you even though you started shooting first because he has a better weapon... -
Frogofdoom 17,974 posts
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Registered 9 years agoIf they just made the loot boxes for cosmetics I wouldn't give a shit. People that want that can pay for it and nobody gets overly offended. Giving an actual advantage to people that fancy throwing an extra 100 quid at it is just fucking stupid. -
VanillaLake 684 posts
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Registered 7 years agobad09 wrote:
What is that?
VanillaLake wrote:Yeah and when you shoot somebody and he kills you even though you started shooting first because he has a better weapon...
Ah so Han did NOT shoot first he just had a starcard greedo didn't! -
Phattso 27,426 posts
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Registered 18 years agonickthegun wrote:
That's a bit unfair. The DLC for Rabbids vs. Mario is basically the same sort of deal as Nintendo's own Breath of the Wild. Namely something to tide you over, then in a few months time a single player add on.
Rabbids v Mario has a load of DLC, though, so the sharp practices are seeping in (albeit in a ubi shaped Trojan horse)
It's hardly a new phenomenon, even for Nintendo. It's just that Nintendo (and Ubi in this case, I'd imagine, given how generous the main game was) actually give you something worth the money for the DLC, rather than some utter bollocks wrapped in a crate. -
LittleSparra 7,926 posts
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Registered 6 years agoH1ggyLTD wrote:
You got random one use cards, for one mode. All earnable in game very easily, no eternal passive boosts. Not ideal, tbh, but in practise it very rarely caused anything egregious, if ever. If even that 'mild' form infected proper pure MP, bye bye.
I never spent money in Halo 5.
If i remember correctly, you could pay to get greater access to better vehicles etc? -
Rodney 5,029 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI wonder how Disney will react to their brand being associated with gambling. I've got a feeling this will backfire on EA -
DFawkes 32,791 posts
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Registered 16 years agoHave you seen their mobile free-to-play stuff? They've been sitting happily on that particular money train for a good while now. Not so much on their console games to be fair, but if the licencing deal gives them a decent slice of that loot box money, I'm pretty sure they'll get over it 
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Khanivor 44,800 posts
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Registered 20 years agoriceNpea wrote:
If you mean the cost of the license that EA has to claw back from people who want all the whizbang of 2017 but none of the costs passed on to them.
@Rodney I think it's probably Disney's fault SWBF2 has this loot system and one not more in keeping with other cosmetic type ones in other games. I'm betting they didn't allow they look of the Star Wars characters to be altered to protect the brand. So EA had to come up with this bullshit alternative. -
Benno 11,854 posts
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Registered 17 years agoecu wrote:
Completely agree
Loot boxes aside, I finally got around to playing the beta. Think I’m getting too old for this shit to be honest. Battlefield used to be more composed and tactical even in big battles, and they gradually upped the tempo with each release and I found it harder and harder to enjoy. Now with Battlefront, it’s just a total clusterfuck of shit all over the screen constantly, my brain literally cannot process the multitude of enemies, laser beams, grenades, explosions, everything, just constant, almost 100% of the time you’re playing. Spawning in, dying to random explosions and people you can’t see against the gorgeous backdrops. It’s like playing a Transformers film where your senses are battered in to submission and your brain starts to melt out of your ears due to all the crazy shit that’s happening at once. Unfortunately I’m not a teenager any more, I think I’ll stick to games I can keep up with. -
the_milkybar_kid 8,474 posts
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Registered 7 years ago@beastmaster Not sure it'll be outrage that causes them to change, they've got away with no end of shit in the past. It'll be if enough people don't put their hands in their wallets. Or buy the game at all. -
doctor_nick 237 posts
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Registered 16 years agoBeta was definitely underwhelming, not helped by the near-complete lockdown on available locations. But it's still Star Wars and looks it, so I'm looking forward to playing this with my son - offline coop, custom arcade and story mode mainly. If you want a good online MP shooter surely you'd look elsewhere? At least in this one we're going to get to run around Kashyyyk humping Wookies or something. -
The idea of putting all progression inside loot boxes is just comically bad. Not even Call of Duty does that, even though it sticks DLC guns in there. It's frustrating that it's become hard to find a game that doesn't have this stuff if you're into multiplayer shooters.
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figgis 7,721 posts
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Registered 16 years agoStarted playing the original battlefront 2 on PC last night. With the conversion mod and revised lighting it plays pretty well for a 12 year old game -
Ron_Justice 3,251 posts
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Registered 11 years agoThe RNG 'progress' is already shit enough, but to then tie this into a microtransaction structure, inside a AAA game is utterly abhorrent.
Can't help think that it's partly been done to flesh out the traditional progress content of gun unlocks because there's not enough there to do it traditionally. There's also the restrictions on cosmetics that the lore will introduce because you can't have a dayglow Stormtrooper etc.
Simple fix for all this though, give every unlock in the game a 'crafting material' value and provide a regular, reliable source of those materials. Tie the amount of that material you get to how well your do in game. That way, every 10? games, l can craft an item that l want. I could still get the RNG drops too, but give me a way to purposefully shape my experience. -
DFawkes 32,791 posts
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Registered 16 years agoI really hate that cosmetics and star cards are in the same boxes. I bought a couple of boxes with the in-game currency and mostly got MVP stances and emotes. If they're going to force all class progress into boxes, adding the chance to have no progress feels like nonsense. -
foster2007 336 posts
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Registered 14 years agoBargain bin purchase this. Lootboxes. -
bad09 wrote:
The Ultra Graphics mod 2017 is the one I used.
figgis wrote:
It does indeed play very well and its modes are better designed than the new games to
Started playing the original battlefront 2 on PC last night. With the conversion mod and revised lighting it plays pretty well for a 12 year old game.gif)
Not tried the lighting mod may have to give that a go.
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