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UK General Election 2017: Scumbags vs. Clowns • Page 4
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challenge_hanukkah 14,394 posts
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FULL COMMUNISM NOW
Jeremy Corbyn's Labour Party as a transitional demand -
DakeyrasUK 5,311 posts
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Registered 8 years agoDon't really know what to make of this. Or who to vote for either. Then i remember it doesnt matter as I live in one of the bluest seats in the country so my vote counts for fuck all...
Going to have to have faith in some kind of vote swap thingy-me-bob i guess...
To people who say they cant vote lib dems due to tuition fees.... get over it. They said they would not vote for an increase in tuition fees. What we got is a better deal for students. The average salary now pays less per month than on the old. Only difference is the new system will end up payong back more after 27ish years, at which point you'll only have a couple more to keep paying before it is written off.
I have no doubt that if the lib dems had won a majority uni fees would be a thing of the past. Oh and brexit would be a figment of ukip imaginations. -
Technoishmatt 5,365 posts
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Registered 7 years agoAgree with DakeyrasUK on student loans. Lib dems effectively morphed the policy into a graduate tax, which splits the burden of paying for university educations between the all taxpayers, and tax paying graduates. Argument for making it free is that all of society benefits from having graduates (doctors, etc), but it is also true that those graduates benefit themselves the most. However, if you make them pay up front peopel from less advantaged background won't do it. So, it is a mixture, whereby you only pay as a proportion of your income, and if you haven't paid it back after x years, it gets written off.
Don't know latest numbers, but after the policy started there was no decrease in students from poor and disadvantaged backgrounds, which is who everybody said would be scared by fees.
In summary - end the result is that graduates pay higher tax for a while, if they can. -
Rogueywon 12,387 posts
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Registered 16 years agoWell... that was unexpected. I'll try to keep an open mind until the end of the campaign, but will almost certainly be voting Conservative (despite having been a reluctant-Remainer at the referendum). Down all of the other avenues lies chaos...
This one isn't a foregone conclusion, by the way. Despite the current huge Conservative lead in the polls, it requires only a relatively small switch of Conservative voters to the Lib Dems to either prevent any Conservative gains or even push them back into coalition territory. Labour's likely to be pushed right back onto its London and North-East strongholds, but I don't think those strongholds will topple this time around. Maybe next time if Labour doesn't sort its leadership problem. -
Nazo 1,951 posts
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Registered 12 years agoFourfoldroot wrote:
Except only the Scottish can vote SNP and they already have about as many seats as they can get. It would take a miracle for the Lib Dems to get anywhere near enough seats to prevent a Tory majority.
throw the last ditch hopes of the remainers behind Lib Dems or SNP though and things don't look quite so easy for the Cons. -
Immaterial 2,626 posts
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Registered 14 years agoFor some reason, after listening to Theresa May pitching for the snap election (how many times did she say 'me' and 'I' rather than 'the conservative party'?), I am starting to get horrible '80s flashbacks to Kinnock and Thatcher.
The 80's were shit. -
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StanDarsh 178 posts
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Registered 10 years agoI love the way that Labour aren't portrayed as scumbags. Who initiated LIBOR fraud in 2005?...oh Labour, who raped the pension system so we're now all fucked and might as well not bother with pension?..Labour. Who commenced an illegal war directly linked to the over 700,000 lives lost and the rise of ISIS? Labour. Who screwed our public sector up with PFI and bureaucracy up the wazoo? Labour. Who enabled the banks to screw us over prior to, during and after the recession? Labour. Apart from all that they've mostly done a stand up job on recent years!😂 -
Trowel 24,512 posts
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Registered 18 years agoWho made Steve Guttenberg a star? -
StanDarsh 178 posts
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Registered 10 years agoForgot to mention Brown's brilliant idea to sell off our gold reserves at rock bottom prices. What an effing genius😂 -
StanDarsh 178 posts
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Registered 10 years agoPut it this way id rather vote for openly cuntish cunts than surreptitiously sanctimonious cunts. Of course id rather not vote for either but when those are the options..... -
Surely the one charge that you can't level at Corbyn is complicity in any of New Labour's grimmer endeavours. -
Carlo 21,801 posts
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Registered 16 years agoFourfoldroot wrote:
Much like you party of choice, then.
As a labour voter predominantly I have no idea what to do. -
StanDarsh 178 posts
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Registered 10 years agoGoatApocalypse wrote:
No but it's not like the majority of the party has changed from those days, they've simply added some incompetent Ill educated wankers into the mix!
Surely the one charge that you can't level at Corbyn is complicity in any of New Labour's grimmer endeavours. -
LittleSparra wrote:
Yup, we have reached the point where it really is all just bluster. Words are just that, words. Just endless platitudes.
May wants certainty. I thought the Will of the People was Clear.
She wants Unity.
So election.
Fucking hell politics is fucking dire atm. -
Pretty much all of the leadership from those days is gone. And they're certainly nowhere near the current leadership.
Since coming to power, the Tories have added in excess of £550bn to the national debt.
Schools are being sold off to private firms staffed by Tory Party donators.
NHS is being privatised and contracts given to Tory Party donators.
Royal Mail has already been flogged off, with hundreds of millions transferred from the public to the private sector in the process.
Foodbank use has gone through the roof as the wealthy are given increased tax breaks. Meanwhile, aggressive tax avoidance has become de rigeur.
Homelessness has doubled as a result of funding being cut by 50%.
The disabled are killing themselves or dying in droves a result of the DWP's shameful stance on punitive welfare policies.
If it's incompetent wankery you're worried about, I'd look at the Government mate. -
Syrette 51,181 posts
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Registered 19 years agoI love how this election is in response to political "game-playing" by the other parties, something apparently the Tories are averse to getting involved in. -
RobAnybody 2,892 posts
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Registered 10 years agoIt gets better:
"Tony Blair urges voters to back any candidate who opposes Brexit amid speculation that he will campaign with the Liberal Democrats"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/18/tony-blair-could-share-pro-eu-stage-tim-farron-election-campaign/
Well, I needed a laugh. -
President_Weasel 12,355 posts
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Registered 17 years agoBy the way, Tim Farron is a committed Christian who thinks gays are sinners and is against abortion in any circumstances.
You should probably still vote for the odd-looking little shit and his Quisling party of Tory-enablers though, if they've any chance of defeating the Tories in your constituency -
disusedgenius 10,677 posts
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Registered 14 years agoPresident_Weasel wrote:
Maybe they've learnt their lesson and now know that the best thing to do is lose because then the real fight begins. That's clearly been a much more effective method of curtailing Tory bullshit.
You should probably still vote for the odd-looking little shit and his Quisling party of Tory-enablers though, if they've any chance of defeating the Tories in your constituency -
Syrette 51,181 posts
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Registered 19 years agoSpoilt ballot here I come. -
President_Weasel 12,355 posts
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Registered 17 years agoOh, I hate "the fight starts just after we gave in and let the Tories do exactly what they wanted" even more. -
ResidentKnievel 7,679 posts
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Registered 14 years agoPresident_Weasel wrote:
I still struggle to comprehend how a Liberal Democrat can hold these views.
By the way, Tim Farron is a committed Christian who thinks gays are sinners and is against abortion in any circumstances. -
disusedgenius 10,677 posts
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I think I have to vote Lib Dem. despite Finding some of Farron's Christianity a little iffy. I did like his review of Straight Outta Compton by NWA though
http://ramalbumclub.com/post/145100684664/week-70-straight-outta-compton-by-nwa
If this is basically an election to give May a mandate for hard Brexit (which it is) it only makes sense to vote for the only English party who have consistently campaigned and voted against such a thing.
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