People are . . . this is why we can't have nice things.

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  • HitchHiker 9 Jun 2017 21:22:14 2,892 posts
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    This is going to be a bit of a rant . . .

    Background:
    Back in 2006 I started creating music on my computer. It wasn't going to set the charts on fire but I enjoyed it and even created one or two tracks that I'm still quite proud of. I also created a few game play videos which included my music and were uploaded to YouTube. Over time I played about with my tracks and put them up on MySpace (I was surprised to find it still exists today) and Sound Cloud.

    Yesterday:
    I had an email from YouTube, my video had been reported as using copyright music. Really, I thought. Probably just a mistake by YT's algorithms . . . nope. Someone has actually claimed the rights to my track and has it on an album on Spotify and Amazon Japan.
    Ok, I admit is not exactly the same, he's taken my track and then overlaid some synth backing but there's no doubt it's mine. Bastard.

    I've responded to the YT copyright claim and have reported it to Sound Cloud too, they've asked for more details which I've given them but I've no idea what they'll do if anything. I don't expect anything financial from this, never did when I was creating them but it's just not on to take someone else's work and slap your name on it and sell it.

    My track called Mellow (MySpace link for shits 'n giggles)

    His track on Spotify, Dream Escape

    Edited by HitchHiker at 21:23:45 09-06-2017
  • UncleLou Moderator 9 Jun 2017 21:33:13 40,723 posts
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    Oh. Wish you were in Germany, we'd teach Timothy Bergen a lesson. :D
  • Deleted user 9 June 2017 21:40:05
    so you don't have the source files?
  • UncleLou Moderator 9 Jun 2017 21:41:19 40,723 posts
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    Contact Spotify as well:

    https://www.spotify.com/uk/legal/infringement-form/
  • HitchHiker 9 Jun 2017 21:42:50 2,892 posts
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    @CrispyXUKTurbo I have the .als files from Ableton but it doesn't include all the sounds and samples so I'm not sure how useful it would be.
  • mal 9 Jun 2017 22:28:38 29,326 posts
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    The fact that myspace claims you posted it there in 2006 should help your case, I'd have thought.
  • HitchHiker 9 Jun 2017 22:48:55 2,892 posts
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    @mal That's sort of what I'm hoping, that Sound Cloud and YouTube will see the dates on my tracks both on MySpace and Sound Cloud and draw the right conclusions from that.
  • HitchHiker 9 Jun 2017 22:58:32 2,892 posts
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    @UncleLou Done, thanks. Although I don't like the fact that by filing a complaint with Spotify, you have to agree that they share ALL your contact details to the other party including full name and address. The fact that that person is an arsehat that likes to steal stuff, asking to share that info with them is worrying.
  • HitchHiker 12 Jun 2017 19:13:32 2,892 posts
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    I've just had a rather snotty email from a music publishing company asking why I'm claiming the rights to the track as Spotify has told them of my claim and removed the whole album from their catalog for now. The company is uk based which I wasn't expecting and their client operates under an alias and they've given me his name.

    Spotify helpfully passed on my email address but did not give them any of the explanation or links to my tracks. So I've replied to them with links to all that stuff and will have to wait and see.

    Edited by HitchHiker at 19:13:58 12-06-2017
  • You-can-call-me-kal 12 Jun 2017 19:15:58 23,013 posts
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    Takes some bollocks to rip off a track then accuse the other guy of copying. You kinda gotta respect it.
  • Syrette 12 Jun 2017 19:16:00 51,181 posts
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    I wish to donate £10 to your legal fund.
  • David_Richardson 12 Jun 2017 20:04:20 1,332 posts
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    I'm rooting for you!
  • David_Richardson 12 Jun 2017 20:04:32 1,332 posts
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    Not that it helps at all.
  • mal 12 Jun 2017 20:57:00 29,326 posts
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    Tear 'em a new one, HH!
  • HitchHiker 12 Jun 2017 21:01:13 2,892 posts
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    Thanks but I don't expect to get very far with it if they push it.

    Edited by HitchHiker at 21:08:18 12-06-2017
  • HitchHiker 12 Jun 2017 21:11:57 2,892 posts
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    Just had an email from SoundCloud, they have removed his track. Spotify are waiting on the Music Publisher to respond to them with a rebuttal or agreement or whatever the legal term is. The Music Publisher has also just acknowledged my response to their snotty email and is now going to speak to "Tim". Things are moving along.
  • Decks 12 Jun 2017 21:46:39 31,013 posts
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    Fucking Tim.
  • mal 12 Jun 2017 21:50:01 29,326 posts
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    Good Japanese name that, Tim.
  • Psiloc 12 Jun 2017 21:52:59 6,366 posts
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    Keep us posted chap.
  • Load_2.0 12 Jun 2017 21:57:41 33,582 posts
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    Tim... baland?
  • neilka 12 Jun 2017 22:04:28 24,021 posts
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    I hope your reply consisted of exactly two words:

    FRAUD ACTIONS
  • HitchHiker 12 Jun 2017 22:06:52 2,892 posts
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    Tim's real name is very English and he has some stuff up in iTunes under his real name. . . . Unless that too is someone else.
  • Your-Mother 12 Jun 2017 22:07:37 8,172 posts
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    HitchHiker wrote:
    Tim's real name is very English
    Tim LetsGo
  • Zero_g 12 Jun 2017 22:39:41 395 posts
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    If he's been profiting from your track you might be able to claim Royalties.
    Did you include that in your emailed response...
  • HitchHiker 12 Jun 2017 23:17:16 2,892 posts
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    No I didn't. I'm not expecting to gain anything financial, I'm just pissed that someone was claiming it as their own and then issuing me with a copyright notice on YouTube.

    I'm starting to worry myself now that the Music Publisher will start a claim against me for loss of earnings because reasons . . .
  • Deleted user 12 June 2017 23:27:36
    DEATH TO TIM!
  • Syrette 12 Jun 2017 23:38:18 51,181 posts
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    TIMMEH
  • mal 13 Jun 2017 03:01:32 29,326 posts
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    Leeroy Jenkins!
  • MrTomFTW Moderator 13 Jun 2017 08:07:15 47,501 posts
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    Load_2.0 wrote:
    Tim... baland?
    Close.
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