Valkyria Chronicles 4 Page 4

  • Graxlar_v3 10 Oct 2018 06:58:42 4,169 posts
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    I did 4-3 last night, I ended up doing it in 7 turns cos of my go slow and steady approach.

    I actually was up there in 4 turns the attempt before but one of the camps I had left, in one turn,sent a shocktrooper from their camp to mine, killed my token grenaider protector and took my base :/.
  • Mola_Ram 10 Oct 2018 08:38:09 18,682 posts
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    Yeah, this is why I don't trust Grenadiers to protect bases - it's just too random, and they die too easily. Much better to have a Shocktrooper there imo.

    I wasn't satisfied with my previous 4-3 performance, so I did it again and managed it (but only just) in 3 turns. Some save-scumming was involved (my Lancer kept missing the tank weak spots that were RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM the first turn), and I didn't kill nearly everything (the Ace survived this time), but I was much happier with my efficiency. My record is UNSULLIED.
  • oldschoolsoviet 10 Oct 2018 21:52:11 6,566 posts
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    Soooooo......

    Found a brick wall (well, more a barricade). Ch13.

    It's easily doable with a crap turn number, but going for the A/efficiency is proving a ballache. To the point I've headed back to clear up those previous stray quests and a few skirmishes in order to upgrade everything to the current max.

    Also, can confirm anti-tank sniper rifles. Oh goody !
  • Graxlar_v3 10 Oct 2018 22:53:05 4,169 posts
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    I am in chapter 7 now, my first play through I am not too bothered by grade.

    I lost a character in chapter 6 :(. He was killed by a tank and then the area was set on fire by said tank. so apparently that is an automatic death.
  • oldschoolsoviet 11 Oct 2018 00:05:02 6,566 posts
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    You should worry about grade, as you're rewarded with some decent weapons for A ranks.

    And yep, anything "bad" touching a downed character is a big no-no. Can touch them with your own troops, rescuing them and available again after one turn, use an engineer's revive aid to bring them back immediately, or watch them bleed out after two turns. There should be an order to evacuate too, but pricey CP-wise.

    Guessing that there'll be extra recruits available because of deaths, so I'll wait. Nico still has some time left......for now.
  • Mola_Ram 11 Oct 2018 00:40:06 18,682 posts
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    From what I can tell, you get the weapon rewards from a B rank, and the A rank also gets you an accessory.
  • oldschoolsoviet 11 Oct 2018 01:40:50 6,566 posts
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    B rank rewards one random weapon, A rewards three randoms+item is what I've found. Bumped one earlier from B>A where I received the aforementioned AT rifle in the trio. And seeing as it was 4.3, that confirms the rewards are based from your levels, probably by class ?

    Don't want to go looking for confirmation quite yet though.
  • Mola_Ram 11 Oct 2018 02:06:23 18,682 posts
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    Weird, I did exactly the same thing (went from B to A in 4.3), and the only extra thing I got from an A rank was the item.
  • Mola_Ram 11 Oct 2018 03:42:16 18,682 posts
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    Lol @ chapter 5

    Minerva: I'LL SHOW YOU HOW GOOD I AM AS COMMANDER

    Turn 1: I take 2 out of 3 of her bases. Minerva responds by sending all of her forces from her last base to attack the one I've got that's most heavily guarded. She fails.

    Turn 2: Send a scout to her undefended last base, win.

    Minerva: WHAT HOW DID THAT HAPPEN

    Bit of a let down from chapter 4, but I guess it was nice to have a (probably short) respite from the madness.
  • Graxlar_v3 11 Oct 2018 08:13:30 4,169 posts
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    I went back and A ranked the first 3 missions, didnít get anything super useful but will do 4 (shudders), 5 & 6 at some point.

    How do you A rank 4?

    I clear out as many of the anti tank guns as possible in the first two turns but the APC still gets destroyed before i can get it to the base :/

    Edited by Graxlar_v3 at 08:52:53 11-10-2018
  • Mola_Ram 11 Oct 2018 09:02:26 18,682 posts
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    You mean 4-1?

    I don't know what path you tried for the APC, but my first two turns were spent driving him up the right side of the map, to the top right. I took the camp and summoned a Lancer. Third turn I used the Lancer to kill the tank that spawned, and used Raz to move up the hill and kill the grenadier and anti tank guns there. Fourth turn I put the passengers in (the Lancer and Riley) and spent all the APC movement hugging the side of the hill and going left and up to behind the enemy camp. The two passengers got out, killed the guards, and took it.

    If you're having trouble, maybe save more often so you can try different things.
  • Graxlar_v3 11 Oct 2018 09:16:45 4,169 posts
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    lol, i sent Raz up the left and cleared out that area, another shock trooper to the right to clear that area and sent the APC with third shock trooper straight through the middle.

    I did beat it before by killing every enemy on the battlefield but got a D rank so imagine it isnt the best way forward.

    Edited by Graxlar_v3 at 09:17:25 11-10-2018
  • Mola_Ram 11 Oct 2018 10:08:00 18,682 posts
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    The only things that threaten the APC while it's driving are mines, anti-tank cannons and (to a lesser extent) mortars. If you can get rid of those beforehand, you should be fine driving through even assault tanks.

    And don't forget that you can repair it! If it's finished one turn looking a bit dangerous, you can have an engineer passenger nip out for a repair (if it's safe). That or use an order.

    Edited by Mola_Ram at 10:15:21 11-10-2018
  • Graxlar_v3 11 Oct 2018 19:04:20 4,169 posts
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    I managed it in 3 on way home.
  • Graxlar_v3 11 Oct 2018 23:18:41 4,169 posts
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    Well it took me a little while but I am back moving forward. I have A rank on all missions (apart from 6 which I got a B rank for originally and donít feel ready to attempt it again.)

    In the meantime all of my units are now elites :) and have upgraded all my equipment as far as possible.
  • Psychotext 12 Oct 2018 00:30:41 63,798 posts
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    Sorry to be extremely late to the thread... but is this anything like the first one? It's one of the last games I've played, and probably one of the few I'd have the patience for these days.
  • oldschoolsoviet 12 Oct 2018 01:23:21 6,566 posts
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    You'll experience deja-vu with the similarity, exactly the same framework with a new cast, story, and a few QoL improvements and tweaks. If you enjoyed VC, this'll tick all the boxes.
  • Mola_Ram 12 Oct 2018 04:10:44 18,682 posts
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    Phwoar, chapter 6 is slightly terrifying.

    Quick question for those who have beaten it: if I kill the commander in the big tank, will that stop him from doing his stupid orders?
  • Graxlar_v3 12 Oct 2018 05:37:56 4,169 posts
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    @Mola_Ram Yes it will, but good luck with that :)

    Weíll I assume it will.

    Edited by Graxlar_v3 at 05:38:27 12-10-2018
  • Mola_Ram 12 Oct 2018 05:54:10 18,682 posts
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    I killed the tank the last time it showed up, with Riley + engineer. I'll give it a go this time, because those mortars and flames are really annoying.
  • Graxlar_v3 12 Oct 2018 07:38:46 4,169 posts
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    7-2 is ARRGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
  • Psychotext 12 Oct 2018 09:35:15 63,798 posts
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    oldschoolsoviet wrote:
    You'll experience deja-vu with the similarity, exactly the same framework with a new cast, story, and a few QoL improvements and tweaks. If you enjoyed VC, this'll tick all the boxes.
    Excellent, thanks.
  • Mola_Ram 13 Oct 2018 03:18:36 18,682 posts
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    Can confirm that killing the commander in chapter 6 makes the map a LOT easier. Not only does it stop his orders, but it seems to stop reinforcements too. If you kill him and snipe the grenadiers that came with him, you can wipe them all out in 3 turns.
  • Mola_Ram 13 Oct 2018 07:34:53 18,682 posts
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    I am up to the "Interlude with Kai".

    I'm slightly curious to know what's up with her. I really hope they just say "Kai got a sex change, get over it", but I know Japanese games aren't really progressive like that.

    It's probably something like the male Kai being a traitor, so his sister takes his name to make up for what he did. Something like that.
  • Mola_Ram 13 Oct 2018 07:55:57 18,682 posts
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    Hrm, so that's a bit goofy (spoilers about Kai). It's like they're trying to do a story about a transgendered character, without actually making them transgendered. I get that it's a sort of touchy subject, but it feels like a half measure that satisfies nobody: it's obvious enough what it's *really* about that people who don't like that sort of thing will probably still be offended, but the contortions the story has to make to accommodate the development make it all a bit dumb.
  • oldschoolsoviet 13 Oct 2018 12:20:17 6,566 posts
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    Mola, stop reading VG247.

    :D
  • Mola_Ram 13 Oct 2018 12:28:36 18,682 posts
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    Reading what now?
  • Graxlar_v3 13 Oct 2018 15:07:53 4,169 posts
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    \o/ managed to A rank 7-2. Actually a really good mission, there are a lot of times to use different units.
  • Rogueywon Most Generous Forumite, 2016 13 Oct 2018 16:26:48 4,312 posts
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    Just put most of the afternoon into this. Fantastic game. I know it's not much more than the first game with a visual facelift, a new cast and a new class, but frankly, that's all I wanted.

    Fingers crossed the sales are good enough that Sega feel able to continue the series directly, rather than just abandoning it or going for handheld spinoffs.
  • Mola_Ram 13 Oct 2018 23:52:04 18,682 posts
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    Well uh... Chapter 8 is a bit easy isn't it. I know where I'll be going if I ever want to grind for experience/money.

    EDIT:Talking about 8-1, where my grand one-turn strategy consisted of "put trooper in APC, drive APC to goal, unload trooper, kill guard, capture". It's like an easy skirmish mission, except you get over 90k in money for it.

    Edited by Mola_Ram at 01:04:37 14-10-2018
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