I reckon Sony should go ahead and release the PS5 around November next year

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  • theincredibleaf 28 Nov 2017 11:53:44 26 posts
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    With true 4K capabilities and enhanced VR (release an improved PSVR at same time)...Full PS4 and Pro backwards compatibility...Same price as launch X1X.

    What's not to like?

    And it would probably sell better than Pro...Many Pro trade ins and standard PS4 owners ready to make the upgrade to something more than what the pro gives.

    Oh and just put in the UHD Bluray already...Not that I bother with physical media for content these days, there are a number of people that would please.

    So Sony go on...Do it...Keep the updates coming.

    If you release it...They will come. :)

    PS: Of course they won't but it would be quite a bold move and I think it would work because they have a strong hold on gaming right now.

    Edited by theincredibleaf at 11:59:46 28-11-2017
  • b0rk 28 Nov 2017 12:02:28 7,649 posts
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    2019 at the earliest, probably 2020
  • cowell 28 Nov 2017 12:02:29 1,476 posts
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    This insight is incredible. I'm a headhunter for Sony and we're hiring Head of Business Strategy specialising in the PlayStation business. Is that something you'd be interested in discussing?
  • Deleted user 28 November 2017 12:19:44
    Er, no.

    PS4 is absolutely dominating the market. There is no reason for Sony to announce the PS5, let alone set a release date.

    Edited by Ragnor at 12:20:22 28-11-2017
  • Rogueywon Most Generous Forumite, 2016 28 Nov 2017 12:28:06 3,052 posts
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    I don't want new consoles right now.

    Let's be honest, console transition times are horrible. Yes, there's the excitement of a shiny new box under your TV, but other than that, launch-years tend to be grim for gamers. Actual game releases tend to be sub-par and it often takes up to two years after a major console transition for things to get back on track.

    Think about it... while you get the occasional decent launch title, most of them aren't much more than tech demos to show off the features of the new console. Meanwhile, those studios not working on launch titles have a dilemma. Do they continue developing primarily for the last-gen console, with the bigger installed base (and maybe do a quick and dirty port to the new hardware)? Or do they go for the new hardware, likely pushing their launch date back by a year or so and taking the chance that the enthusiasm of the user base on the new console(s) will outweigh the size of the user base on the old one. This are big and serious risks and often lead to developers otherwise playing things as safe as possible in their game design.

    Most console generations only really hit their stride in terms of games at some point 18-24 months after the new hardware launches. That's not a trivial window and I don't want to go through it too often.

    Of course, things can go the other way as well... the 360/PS3 generation was allowed to run on for a year or so longer than it should have done, to the point where hardware limitations were severely curtailing game design (those RAM limits) and gamers were clearly getting bored.

    I'd have thought 2020/21 is likely to be the sweet-spot for the PS5 and the next MS console (if there is one).
  • StarchildHypocrethes 28 Nov 2017 12:36:04 31,255 posts
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    That creepy neogaf guy has a lot to fucking answer for.
  • JamboWayOh 28 Nov 2017 12:37:59 6,224 posts
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    StarchildHypocrethes wrote:
    That creepy neogaf guy has a lot to fucking answer for.
    There have been some seriously ridiculous threads of late, that one about motion blur was a doozy.
  • Deleted user 28 November 2017 12:38:59
    Agreed, I don't need or want a new console right now either. I can get another several years out of my PS4 and X1, much longer in fact. I'm still regularly using my PS3 and 360 as it is.
  • UncleLou Moderator 28 Nov 2017 12:43:57 39,413 posts
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    How about November *this* year, so, some time between this afternoon and Thursday.

    *That* would be a bold move.
  • neilka 28 Nov 2017 12:45:35 21,199 posts
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  • JamboWayOh 28 Nov 2017 12:46:18 6,224 posts
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    UncleLou wrote:
    How about November *this* year, so, some time between this afternoon and Thursday.

    *That* would be a bold move.
    Actually, I'm a bit busy then. The following Thursday works better for me.
  • mAc6 28 Nov 2017 12:56:09 3,357 posts
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    Yeah or 2021
  • LittleSparra 28 Nov 2017 12:58:22 7,926 posts
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    As long as the games are as addicting as before!!!
  • KnuttinAtoll 28 Nov 2017 13:24:43 5,515 posts
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    JamboWayOh wrote:
    UncleLou wrote:
    How about November *this* year, so, some time between this afternoon and Thursday.

    *That* would be a bold move.
    Actually, I'm a bit busy then. The following Thursday works better for me.
    Or, best of both worlds, Lou edition by Thursday, Jambo edition next week.

    DigitalFoundry to compare the two in minute detail.
  • Load_2.0 28 Nov 2017 13:26:36 26,394 posts
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    March 12th - 3.17pm. 2020.
  • BillMurray 28 Nov 2017 13:32:28 9,148 posts
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    LittleSparra wrote:
    As long as the games are as addicting as before!!!
    'Addicting' is the main reason why I only lasted 5 minutes navigating Neogaf.
  • Dirtbox 28 Nov 2017 13:34:08 90,175 posts
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    The 1080p 60fps dream is still alive!
  • Graxlar_v3 28 Nov 2017 13:36:01 2,290 posts
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    @dirtbox

    Pretty sure it is dead now, the dream is now 4k 60fps (until people decide they want 90 fps)
  • Rivuzu 28 Nov 2017 13:38:29 17,182 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    The 1080p 60fps dream is still alive!
    Don't be daft, it'll be a miniscule upgrade to hit 8K resolution whilst having the frame rate of a PowerPoint slide from 1998.
  • THFourteen 28 Nov 2017 13:40:28 47,904 posts
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    They would have to do something more innovative.

    Maybe if you could detach the PS5 from its dock and play it handheld at 8k
  • theincredibleaf 28 Nov 2017 13:45:57 26 posts
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    :D

    Yes, yes but seeing as both Microsoft and Sony are targeting the affluent niche audience, is it really a crazy idea?

    When Apple can sell 1000 smartphones, PC enthusiasts can drop +500 on a GPU every couple of years etc.

    I also don't think the argument about cannibalising the existing user base is relevant when you have a tiered ecosystem that is backwards compatible.

    You have two capable great PlayStation consoles released, but each have flaws...Nothing game changing (excuse the pun), but enough that I believe those with easy disposable cash would want to pay to overcome...with an upgrade.

    Ok, ok...We'll call it the PS4 Pro Plus / PS4 Pro S / X then...Better? :D

    Edited by theincredibleaf at 13:46:35 28-11-2017
  • challenge_hanukkah 28 Nov 2017 13:51:06 6,035 posts
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    500 on a GPU?

    Pauper.
  • theincredibleaf 28 Nov 2017 13:56:53 26 posts
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    challenge_hanukkah wrote:
    500 on a GPU?

    Pauper.
    Exactly...I was being conservative...My colleague just splashed out on a GTX 1080 Ti and upgraded from a 970 he had for two years.

    And he's not even super rich...or PC master race type...Has a young kid and a wife :D

    Edited by theincredibleaf at 13:57:10 28-11-2017
  • theincredibleaf 28 Nov 2017 14:05:52 26 posts
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    Why would it be foolish?.

    If you aren't in the ecosystem...buy the new powerful machine.

    If you are...decide which step to move to next or stay where you are on the base step.

    whichever step you move to...enjoy great exclusive games that look better the higher the step you move to...and those who are on the lower levels that are deciding to wait...can be safe in the knowledge that they can upgrade when they want and gain some improvement.

    The only worry is to Sony selling enough of the new unit to cover R&D and make a profit.

    Same as the Pro...I could afford a Pro...I'm even tempted with those Amazon prices...But I don't mind waiting it out for the next revision, but there are many that have to have the latest and greatest.
  • Technoishmatt 28 Nov 2017 14:43:23 2,485 posts
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    If they can make it run Halo, I'm in.
  • neilka 28 Nov 2017 14:44:03 21,199 posts
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    Buy a PC
  • b0rk 28 Nov 2017 14:50:55 7,649 posts
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    theincredibleaf wrote:
    challenge_hanukkah wrote:
    500 on a GPU?

    Pauper.
    Exactly...I was being conservative...My colleague just splashed out on a GTX 1080 Ti and upgraded from a 970 he had for two years.

    And he's not even super rich...or PC master race type...Has a young kid and a wife :D
    my radeon cost me 190 quid, it can do 1080/60 no problem. eat that consolers
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