I reckon Sony should go ahead and release the PS5 around November next year Page 2

  • Humperfunk 28 Nov 2017 15:07:47 7,618 posts
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    Personally I am hoping for another 10 year cycle or whatever the last generation was. Still feels like the PS4 is relatively new (even though it's been four years), certainly not ready for another one anytime soon, even 2020 would be too soon.
  • figgis 28 Nov 2017 15:21:06 7,716 posts
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    They should release the 'Sony Xbox 2' and make it more powerful than PC's are.
  • JoelStinty 28 Nov 2017 17:45:18 6,585 posts
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    I think for the first time I feel like I donít want or need a next gen system. When you have machines capable of producing games as good looking as uncharted or horizon, what is the point of a new system? The power never gets utilised in other ways. The more interesting games tend to come later in consoles lifetime.

    Kind of content with what we have now, and would be happy to replace my current systems with newer more efficient models if they decide to break down.
  • neilka 28 Nov 2017 17:52:42 21,414 posts
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    I'm hoping we finally get photorealistic doilies.
  • spamdangled 28 Nov 2017 18:19:36 31,630 posts
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    It would be absolutely fucking stupid for Sony to release PS5 that soon. They have a dominant position in the market, technology hasn't advanced sufficiently to lead to genuine next-gen visuals, and they would fragment their existing userbase. I doubt it would sell very well as too many people would just stick with the machines they have.
  • Deleted user 28 November 2017 18:26:21
    superbob85 wrote:
    Crazy even contemplating what sort of leap the next gen will be.
    We've reached the point of diminishing returns visually, so not much of a leap there. Focus needs to be elsewhere and for that better CPUs in consoles is what's needed otherwise we will just be playing the same games with only slightly better graphics.

    Don't get me wrong, I have enjoyed a lot of games this generation and continue to do so, but the brunt of them haven't really done anything different from the previous generation. Same clunky AI, overused templates, and the same old problems rearing their ugly head - even in some of the better entrants out there. There has been nothing of any real significant change. So if the next generation only has pretty pictures and a handful of new particle effects and whatnot to brag about then I'm happy not to see new consoles any time soon.
  • Fourfoldroot 28 Nov 2017 18:53:18 2,410 posts
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    No point releasing any new consoles until the new CPU are available at a reasonable price. GPU upgrades are meaningless to me, and VR works well enough for the consoles we have. Can't wait to upgrade to PSVR Mark 2 though admittedly
  • grassyknoll 28 Nov 2017 20:38:19 651 posts
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    @theincredibleaf The mid gen upgrades are a complete sales dead end. 1 in 5 PS4s are Pros, they are even going to be even less if they do it again. If upgrading in itself is your focus, just buy a PC. No one with any sense wants upgrades on a yearly basis.
  • KnuttinAtoll 28 Nov 2017 21:04:56 5,623 posts
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    superbob85 wrote:
    Crazy even contemplating what sort of leap the next gen will be.
    A leap of faith?
  • KnuttinAtoll 28 Nov 2017 21:07:32 5,623 posts
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    In a Church of Sony vs Microsoft Brotherhood sort of way.
  • theincredibleaf 3 Jan 2018 14:55:01 26 posts
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    @grassyknoll Sorry wasn't sure if this was a PM or not. Thanks for the comment.

    I was mostly setting the cat amongst the pigeons with that post but I still believe Sony or Microsoft could release 18 monthly updates and it would become the norm, pretty soon and sales would be good after this acceptance.

    The gamers who shout that they would never upgrade are the same who shout things like "EA / Rockstar etc...You're dead to me", when such developers / publishers do something they justifiably deem unfair, cheap etc.

    Then those same gamers buy the next big release from those same developers / publishers.

    "Loot boxes? Man that shit was last year, I'm getting me some Battlefield 1 - Battle Of The Somme DLC*. Day 1 baby!"

    Basically, people are fickle and don't stand up for what they believed in yesterday.

    Hence, more shitty practices from these large gaming companies are imminently incoming, and will be accepted as the norm...after a little initial gnashing of teeth.

    Then I'm an old fart...Been playing games since the early 80s.

    This is the modern world.

    * I made that up.
  • theincredibleaf 3 Jan 2018 14:57:09 26 posts
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    I seems it wasn't a PM.

    Oh well. Better out than in :)
  • Deleted user 3 January 2018 15:05:16


    User Neilka made the same joke but he didn't put words on it.
  • Fake_Blood 3 Jan 2018 17:09:51 8,637 posts
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    I think he might be right, I'm even pretty sure it will have one of those new intel/amd chips in it.
  • PazJohnMitch 3 Jan 2018 19:52:35 13,521 posts
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    I thought there were only 2 PS1 and PS2 models but there were 3 PS3s.

    PSX, PSOne, PS2, PSTwo, PS3, PS3 Slim and PS3 Super Slim.
  • FrostPan 3 Jan 2018 20:01:47 1,492 posts
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    PazJohnMitch wrote:
    I thought there were only 2 PS1 and PS2 models but there were 3 PS3s.

    PSX, PSOne, PS2, PSTwo, PS3, PS3 Slim and PS3 Super Slim.
    There was a super-slim PS2, but that didn't come out over in the UK.
  • dominalien 3 Jan 2018 20:09:59 8,575 posts
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    Iirc there was the fat ps2, the slim ps2 with an external power supply and then a slim one with one built-in. I thought at the time it was quite an achievement.
  • theincredibleaf 4 Jan 2018 17:30:15 26 posts
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    @spamdangled It wouldn't necessarily be PS5 though.

    Think of what Microsoft has done with Windows 10 being the last major version of Windows...Also Mac OS X since original release in 2001...There's only been Mac OS X...Single release with perpetual upgrades.

    When consoles become digital only or possibly even just streaming boxes in the future, this is likely the model the manufacturers adopt.

    Edited by theincredibleaf at 17:30:35 04-01-2018
  • thelzdking 4 Jan 2018 17:58:55 8,127 posts
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    I've only just upgraded my PS2 to a 360.
  • JamboWayOh 4 Jan 2018 18:21:58 7,793 posts
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    thelzdking wrote:
    I've only just upgraded my PS2 to a 360.
    Hipster!
  • thelzdking 4 Jan 2018 18:29:13 8,127 posts
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    I choose to have no HDD and no Xbox Live to maintain a more authentic gaming experience.
  • Derblington 4 Jan 2018 18:48:23 30,861 posts
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    theincredibleaf wrote:
    @spamdangled It wouldn't necessarily be PS5 though.

    Think of what Microsoft has done with Windows 10 being the last major version of Windows...Also Mac OS X since original release in 2001...There's only been Mac OS X...Single release with perpetual upgrades.

    When consoles become digital only or possibly even just streaming boxes in the future, this is likely the model the manufacturers adopt.
    But hardware is totally different to software, so this comparison is beyond daft. They can refresh their dashboards and bits and pieces as much as they like, and MSFT do, but that's not the same thing as delivering a brand new incremental box.

    Regardless, this year would be far too soon. It'll be 2020 at the earliest, imo, or the bump up just won't be significant enough.

    Edited by Derblington at 18:53:13 04-01-2018
  • Deleted user 4 January 2018 20:03:58
    itís already here https://local.theonion.com/ghost-of-christmas-future-taunts-children-with-visions-1819566694
  • up_the_ante 7 Jan 2018 01:56:04 625 posts
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    DukeSilver wrote:

    User Neilka made the same joke but he didn't put words on it.
    I did the same joke too. I just didn't put words, or a picture, to it. I just did it my mind. But I think I should get a mention too.
  • ontoff 26 Jan 2018 02:58:08 66 posts
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    So November 2018?
    It's hard to predict where Sony will go. If someone told me they'd basically abandon Vita, I would have never believed it. Now we have Nintendo basically claiming the on-the-go market to themselves.

    Miniaturised electronics is an area Sony hardware engineers have masterfully commanded for decades, yet they are hardly playing today. Boggles my mind.

    Both the Xbox One X and Nintendo's Switch are doing things Sony currently isn't. PS4 sales are very respectable though. Leading the market.

    Will Sony respond to either the Switch and Xbox One S or X? If I had to guess, at the very least some sort of UHD bluray support will happen.

    Though personally I'm not interested in either of them unless I can turn off bluetooth permanently and game 100% wired. https://ehtrust.org/science/peer-reviewed-research-studies-on-wi-fi/
  • Stuz359 26 Jan 2018 06:57:04 116 posts
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    I don't want a new gen yet, not sure it's necessary either.

    I think with ps4 pro and x box one x a trick has been missed anyway. Focus has been on resolution, but I feel we had a lot of scope to be pushing hardware as far as possible with 1080p resolution, to push graphics a lot further.

    I rememner , not so long ago, that the amount of 360 owners that didn't own a HDTV was as high as 80%
    I can't imagine the uptake of 4k TV's is any higher now.

    I think the new gen of consoles will be an iteration of the x86 Architecture and so will be !ore scalable than the last anyway and we will end IP similar to the PC in terms of graphical settings across games.

    My only problem is that I remember when consoles were the pinnacle of tech and that's not going to happen anymore.

    I would love to see a console, that was equivalent of a 1080ti, with a decent CPU, and I would love to see a (probably) Sony developer push it to it's limits.

    I don't see it happening for a good few years yet though. Don't see the point either. Games look good enough, it's only things like the CPU which will give new game experiences, like AI and physics.
  • mothercruncher 26 Jan 2018 08:26:53 14,965 posts
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    ďSo November 2018?Ē

    No.
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