I reckon Sony should go ahead and release the PS5 around November next year Page 3

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  • DangerousDave_87 26 Jan 2018 13:25:28 7,074 posts
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    Considering how expensive these Pro consoles are, I can't see a new generation of consoles coming any time soon. At least not without a significant increase in price. Nintendo's Switch will certainly force Sony to play their hand much earlier than they otherwise would have, but unless they're making some kind of hybrid PS4, that's still a long way off.
  • LittleSparra 26 Jan 2018 13:36:16 7,926 posts
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    I don't think the Switch will force them to do much. It isn't overlapping as much as ps4/xbone, and PS4 is still selling well asfaik.

    Edited by LittleSparra at 13:36:39 26-01-2018
  • Fake_Blood 26 Jan 2018 13:38:48 11,093 posts
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    If the new xbox was a success they might have launched a new system at the end of the year, but I don’t think it’s going to happen.
  • Dirt3 26 Jan 2018 13:51:24 1,775 posts
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    I would guess that PS5 happens when a hardware solution 5-10x PS4 is available that can ship for 300-400 GBP.

    PS4 is about 2TFlop in GPU power for example. so PS5 would need to be 10TFlop minimum (about 2.5x PS4 Pro).

    Since the One X is 6 Tlops and currently is at 450GBP this doesn't look like it's going to happen anytime soon.

    I think the base platform will move to the PS4Pro/XB1X. There is an increasing chance IMO that in 2-3 years time PS4Pro/XB1X only games will be released/allowed. I reckon PS5/XB2 will not happen til around 2022.
  • BigOrkWaaagh 26 Jan 2018 13:54:28 10,554 posts
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    Stuz359 wrote:
    My only problem is that I remember when consoles were the pinnacle of tech and that's not going to happen anymore.
    When was that? I don't remember that ever being the case.
  • Nazo 26 Jan 2018 14:47:06 1,951 posts
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    BigOrkWaaagh wrote:
    Stuz359 wrote:
    My only problem is that I remember when consoles were the pinnacle of tech and that's not going to happen anymore.
    When was that? I don't remember that ever being the case.
    PS1 era I guess, PC 3d cards were still the their infancy then.
  • Cappy 26 Jan 2018 18:20:51 14,393 posts
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    Consoles have often been quite competitive, at various times, PCs tended to have a massive brute force advantage when it came to RAM but you'd often see PC games pushing lower poly models than contemporary console titles in the 90s.

    Both the PS2 and PS3 were pretty interesting from a CPU architecture standpoint and could do some neat tricks.

    We are in an age where standardisation comes first, it's possible that we'll never see a PS2 or a PS3 style console again and everything will be primarily off the shelf components.
  • AceGrace 27 Jan 2018 07:45:24 3,464 posts
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    Which is very sad. I enjoyed the bullshit that comes with a different CPU. Emotion engine etc....
  • DangerousDave_87 27 Jan 2018 08:50:42 7,074 posts
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    @FuzzyDucky I was merely going on the fact that the Switch looks set to out sell the PS4 in Japan this year having made 3/5ths of the PS4s total sales in Japan in just 10 months. Admittedly the PS4 topped the hardware chats over there this week for the first time in yonks, but the console is selling well enough to demonstrate that the PS4 isn't having the most amazing run in its home country. Rather its just not had any competition until now.

    Its also not lacking on the software front, either. Not at all.

    Edited by DangerousDave_87 at 08:51:57 27-01-2018
  • Frogofdoom 27 Jan 2018 09:01:12 17,973 posts
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    Rather than new consoles I would like to see the x and the pro become the standard model via price cuts over the next couple of years and then just introduce another premium spec. It fixes the BC issue and at the point that happens just cut the launch models out of the new game dev. It would keep costs down for gamers and stop the bullshit with peripheral fleecing each generation.
  • DodgyPast 27 Jan 2018 10:22:42 9,353 posts
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    FuzzyDucky wrote:
    Frogofdoom wrote:
    Rather than new consoles I would like to see the x and the pro become the standard model via price cuts over the next couple of years and then just introduce another premium spec. It fixes the BC issue and at the point that happens just cut the launch models out of the new game dev. It would keep costs down for gamers and stop the bullshit with peripheral fleecing each generation.
    Still gonna be limited by the piss-weak CPU though and people with the current base consoles will feel ripped off if new games only come to the Pro consoles and they have to pony up for what appears to be a half-assed upgrade.
    I'd quite like Frogofdoom's idea, having just bought a non pro I wouldn't be gutted to jump to a PS5 in a couple of years if I could keep my game library.

    But as you say, the CPU becomes the problem because anything that's CPU bound 30FPS on the PS 5 would run like arse on the PS Pro.

    How Sony and MS deal with this issue will be interesting.
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