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It looks like my old 970GTX blew up last night. I am not entirely sure it's the card, but it sure looks like it. The computer boots up normally, the picture looks like the Matrix. only in yellow, with ugly, flickering violet stripes. So, the question is, what now? Graphics cards are not available and/or completely overpriced, but that hasn't really changed since last June. Any ideas? Is there anything like a sensibly priced replacement/upgrade? Should I wait for anything specific (not that I can really afford to since I can't use my PC at all now). |
Graphics card help needed
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The price hikes seem to have been across the board except on cards slow enough they're not really worth bothering with. I really don't think there is a good option at the moment. If mine broke I think i would have to just make do with consoles for the time being for games.
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@Spectral To be honest, I have no idea. It probably should have onboard graphics, shouldn't it? I never thought about it since I only ever used it with a dedicated card. -
Most have, I've never had a PC that didn't, although I know they exist. All modern Intel systems do as it's built into the CPU. I had my old 460 crap out in 2016 and made do with integrated graphics until the 1070 launched. I didn't even try gaming with it but it worked perfectly fine for day to day use. Web browsing, netflix,etc.
Edited by Spectral at 08:42:07 08-03-2018 -
y2rich 3,501 posts
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Registered 15 years agoGTX1050/TIs are still a reasonable price and offer good performance. They're very much the budget end but they're not far of 970 performance in a lot of games.
For onboard gfx, if you're on any recently modern Intel you'll be fine, if you're on Ryzen you're most likely buggered unless you bought the newly released Raven Ridge chips
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Malek86 12,331 posts
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Registered 14 years agoYeah, as said, it's not a good idea to buy a graphics card now.
If you have an Intel CPU, you should most definitely have an integrated GPU as well. It will suck for game but should be fine for browsing and stuff. Otherwise, don't you have any older spare card you could still use?
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You could also ask on the swapsies thread if anyone has an older card they'd part with. -
Thanks guys. A colleague offered me an old 6xxx Nvidia card for free, so I should be fine as fas as using the PC at all is concerned.
Malek86 wrote:
Definitely, but the question is, when is it goint to get better? It hasn't been a good idea to buy a graphics card since last summer!
Yeah, as said, it's not a good idea to buy a graphics card now.
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Malek86 12,331 posts
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Registered 14 years ago@UncleLou I don't see it getting better anytime soon, aside from maybe some small breaks here and then.
On the other hand, since miners prefer high-end cards, the market for low-mid range cards is still fairly healthy overall. And for most gamers, that seems to be enough.
As for that 6000 card, make sure it is PCI-E. I think cards of the time still used AGP very often. Anyway, maybe you'd be better off with the integrated GPU, if you have that. The 6000 won't have a lot of memory.
Edited by Malek86 at 09:05:42 08-03-2018 -
Rogueywon 12,387 posts
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Registered 16 years agoPrices for the 6GB 1060 aren't too bad. They've not fallen like you'd normally expect them to for a card that's been on the market as long as that has, but they don't seem to have been particularly hit by inflation either. If you want a gaming card, that's where I'd be looking right now. It's a solid 1080p card that's fine for pushing into 1440p for less demanding games. -
@Rogueywon I will consider that one, cheers. I think I have to find out for myself if it hurts more to spend the same amount of money I've spent 4 years ago for a card that's barely an upgrade, or pay through the nose for something better. 
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Hm, browsed a bit, the 1070TI tends to be cheaper than the standard 1070 - surely the TI is better? At least for gaming?
THIS IS ANNOYING. -
ZuluHero wrote:
The thing is its not just the graphics cards that have had a price hike, it's ram too.
I am quite tempted to build a small form factor using a new ryzen to make a small itx without a dedicated graphics card. The front page article a few weeks ago was very positive.
@UncleLou The 1070 Ti is a better card than the 1070. Not sure why the 1070 would be more expensive.
Edited by Spectral at 10:15:02 08-03-2018 -
OnlyJoeKing 1,293 posts
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Registered 9 years agoI saw Mr Thefourteen linked to a 1080ti for £700 the other day, at Novatech I believe...
Still expensive, but if the others are pushing £500 or so then maybe. Still. Eye watering.
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the_milkybar_kid 8,474 posts
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Registered 7 years ago@UncleLou I've got a 1070 (not a TI) and it's a really solid card. Played anything I've thrown at it in 1440p without breaking a sweat. They're about 400 on Gumtree, which is about what I paid for mine in late 2016.
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Malek86 12,331 posts
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Registered 14 years ago@ZuluHero which R9? Depending on the model, you'd be better off just buying a new CPU, because the integrated GPU in the Ryzen could actually be weaker. -
One_Vurfed_Gwrx 4,468 posts
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Registered 15 years agoUncleLou wrote:
They did drop again last November to normal pricing but then shot up even higher sadly.
Thanks guys. A colleague offered me an old 6xxx Nvidia card for free, so I should be fine as fas as using the PC at all is concerned.
Malek86 wrote:
Definitely, but the question is, when is it goint to get better? It hasn't been a good idea to buy a graphics card since last summer!
Yeah, as said, it's not a good idea to buy a graphics card now.
I am stuck using my HD4600 (Intel on chip) for now. Although I need to check if my old GTX670 works as that will be a lot better.
I regret not just buying a 1070 or 1080 last November when they were £330/£400ish. -
Fake_Blood 11,093 posts
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Registered 12 years agoI heard that it's best to order straight from nvidia's website right now. -
One_Vurfed_Gwrx 4,468 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI don't think they let you order unless there is actual stock so you need to be able to check nore regularly than the miners and scalpers... I sadly doubt that new 11xx cards are going to improve the situation. Only thing that would work really would be some working equivalent to the ASICs made for bitcoin back in the day. Or the stupid cryptocurrencies all crashing and burning. -
Skirlasvoud 4,039 posts
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Registered 11 years agoJezus H Christ.
This thread made me interested in looking up video cards. I've got a GTX 970 that's getting on in age too and I'm interested in upgrading.
I had no idea! This crypto thing has tore the industry a new one... greedy fucks. I could've build half a new rig in 2016 for the current prices!
I heard that it's best to order straight from nvidia's website right now.
299 $ there, but it looks they're perpetually out of stock. Good luck wrestling the miners for those!
It looks like my old 970GTX blew up last night.
Aaaahh! You have my sincere condolences Lou.
*Looks down at own rig*
Don't you fail me ol' reliable. You still have a year left in you! I've never once overclocked you!
Edited by Skirlasvoud at 13:07:05 08-03-2018 -
Buztafen 17,543 posts
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Registered 14 years agoCripes, i didnt even realise the issues people are having sourcing reasonably priced GPU's.
My old faithful 780 better not tap out anytime soon... -
senso-ji 10,271 posts
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Registered 13 years agoI bought a 1070 ti before Xmas for £400, after being advised to by the Budget PC thread not to wait too long (thanks guys ) from Scan. Just checked now and the same card is out of stock and listed as £600. This is insane. I didn't realise so many people were trying to mine BTC. No wonder the crypto-currency prices are fluctuating so much. -
THFourteen 54,987 posts
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Registered 16 years agoI am so happy that i went for the 980Ti when i did, it could do better but theres no real pressure to upgrade and i'm not running 4K.
Not really sure when the natural end to the mining issue will come. I would have hoped that eventually it would become unprofitable, but there are so many crypto currencies now it seems like people can find some way to make the numbers add up. -
Sharz 2,121 posts
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Registered 6 years agoYeah if you have an AM4 based system and your graphic card fails I would definitely be looking at the new Raven CPUs. -
Sharz wrote:
At that point i'd ask yourself why you want to remain in PC gaming at all. The best thing about PC gaming is being able to play most games at detail and resolution levels that mop the floor with your average console (and play some strategy / RPG games that dont come out on consoles).
Yeah if you have an AM4 based system and your graphic card fails I would definitely be looking at the new Raven CPUs.
Do you really want a second rate experience?
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