The Writing Thread (Novels, scripts, screenplays etc.)

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  • rice_sandwich 9 Mar 2018 16:28:55 6,453 posts
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    A small group of forum members have plugged away at various literary and not so literary efforts during national novel writing month for the last few years. For a month each year the threads have been a blur of activity followed by stuff being put in the drawer to gather dust along with aspirations until the next year.

    There doesn't seem to be a general writing thread. Let's use this to chat about and share our would be novels, scripts, screenplays, hentai tentacle porn fan fiction and whatever else.

    Edited by rice_sandwich at 18:17:49 09-03-2018
  • neilka 9 Mar 2018 16:34:57 23,411 posts
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    @SpaceMonkey77
  • rice_sandwich 9 Mar 2018 16:38:21 6,453 posts
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    Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!......he declined to share his works in the nanowrimo thread for various reasons that he couldn't elucidate upon for security reasons but he did wish us all good luck!
  • Nielzor 9 Mar 2018 17:57:48 484 posts
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    What marvellous timing! I've recently released a new book, a dark thriller called The Papyrus Empire:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Papyrus-Empire-Saga-Book-ebook/dp/B079G6DTY4

    One of my earlier books, a satire called Grand Theft Octo (not tentacle porn, sorry) is FREE for the next five days. That's right, free as a freebie!

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Grand-Theft-Octo-Niels-Saunders-ebook/dp/B071V8XRQC

    Looking forward to seeing what everyone else is up to.
  • rice_sandwich 9 Mar 2018 18:13:42 6,453 posts
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    @Nielzor

    Nice. Just bought a kindle copy. How did you get your cover done? It looks quite professional.
  • Nielzor 9 Mar 2018 19:11:54 484 posts
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    @rice_sandwich

    Much appreciated, hope you enjoy.

    The cover is my own creation. It's a collage of public domain bits and bobs, mostly old Victorian-style vectors. I have some truly random crap stored away just in case its useful one day. The moustaches are endless.
  • The12thMonkey 9 Mar 2018 20:03:01 566 posts
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    @Nielzor Grabbed a copy - excellent blurb on the page. I enjoyed the one with the racist boss, the pineapples, and the office that was / was not / really was Babel Media :D

    Edit: I've been doing a read through of my draft / made some notes for fixes, after which I'll be in a position to hit up some test readers.

    Edited by The12thMonkey at 20:04:18 09-03-2018
  • The12thMonkey 9 Mar 2018 20:05:04 566 posts
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    @rice_sandwich Thanks for setting up the topic. Good to have place to keep the spirit going.
  • Nielzor 9 Mar 2018 20:31:11 484 posts
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    @The12thMonkey Awesome, cheers man. Great to hear from you again. This one's quite different from Mervyn vs. Dennis. Thanks for the comments about the blurb--I despise writing those things!
  • CosmicFuzz 9 Mar 2018 23:12:57 32,585 posts
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    Great thread.

    I finished my first novel last year and I've been trying to get an agent since. Figure I'll give it another six months and then self-publish.
  • Mola_Ram 10 Mar 2018 01:25:14 23,984 posts
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    I am writing a screenplay. It is about an evil henchman who has a falling out with his boss, and decides that he can be a better overlord. He eventually discovers, unhappily, that he's a terrible manager, and that he actually enjoyed his former job. His former boss also discovers just how much he relied on his underlings, and learns to appreciate them more.

    It's marketed at kids, just as a general counterpoint to all of the "you are special and born to be a leader" messages polluting kids movies. (I don't expect it to sell)
  • rice_sandwich 12 Mar 2018 08:33:31 6,453 posts
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    @CosmicFuzz

    What's your novel about?
  • BearFishPie 12 Mar 2018 08:56:06 810 posts
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    @CosmicFuzz Iíve been at the latter stage of that sequence for about 8 years, thanks to an unhealthy mix of uncertainty and procrastination. Maybe this year will be the one I finally publish something.
  • CosmicFuzz 12 Mar 2018 11:09:42 32,585 posts
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    @rice_sandwich it's a crime novel about a cop sent to a small town in Nebraska and getting caught up in an investigation into a serial killer/cartel stuff. I was reading a lot of James Ellroy and watching True Detective when I started working on it so it's told with that kind of noir-vibe.
  • CosmicFuzz 12 Mar 2018 11:12:20 32,585 posts
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    @BearFishPie it takes so long! Sending samples to an agent to read, waiting three months for a response etc. Nothing seems to happen quickly.

    I've had a handful of requests for a full manuscript but nothing further than that yet. One agent wrote back that she had "finished reading the full manuscript late last night and am reeling - in a good way! We'll be in touch" and I basically drafted my notice to hand in at work before she got back and said they wouldn't take it any further. Why get my hopes up like that!?

    Urgh. Am starting to work on my next book instead to take my mind off it. Also working on a screenplay with a friend. Even if nothing ever happens with any of it, I do enjoy writing so it's a fun hobby at least.
  • rice_sandwich 12 Mar 2018 11:22:58 6,453 posts
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    @CosmicFuzz

    Interesting plot. You might be better off looking at self-publishing if you get tired of waiting on agents. From what I understand it's a whole other ball game with its own problems but at least there's the satisfaction of publishing a finished work.
  • CosmicFuzz 12 Mar 2018 11:30:00 32,585 posts
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    @rice_sandwich Yeah I'm going to start looking at that this year if I don't get anywhere. Means doing a whole load of marketing yourself but I don't think I'd mind that if it was to promote my own work. And would be a shame for something that took me a number of years to complete to just sit there.
  • rice_sandwich 12 Mar 2018 11:43:23 6,453 posts
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    @CosmicFuzz

    At worst you'll probably make beer money with self-publishing. Things seem to start moving for writers in self publishing once they've written 3+ novels. Writing series is a big thing too. There are all sorts of niche genres that readers are hungry for so you might as well go for it. There's one called LitRPG where the main character generally levels up and gain skills points like in video games. Seems weird to me but what do I know.

    I've got 3 half-written books on the go. I hope to finish at least a first draft of one this year.
  • BearFishPie 12 Mar 2018 12:10:14 810 posts
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    @CosmicFuzz I managed to get one quite positive response from an agent - though they werenít sufficiently interested to take it any further. Itís often disheartening stuff dealing with agents, though as all this time has passed Iíve been gradually improving it. At least when I do eventually publish itíll be a better book than the one I originally threw at all those agents.
  • Nielzor 12 Mar 2018 19:32:05 484 posts
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    @CosmicFuzz Amazing to get that far with an agent, but that is an inexcusable cocktease on their part. Getting full requests and that kind of positive feedback is a great indication of potential success.

    I really find submitting to agents gruelling and soul-destroying. I put off self-publishing for a long time but it's actually been great. It's nice to know my books are able to be read instead of languishing on a hard drive.
  • rice_sandwich 12 Mar 2018 19:36:38 6,453 posts
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    @Nielzor

    I've started reading your book. I'll let you know how I get on.
  • Nielzor 12 Mar 2018 20:20:53 484 posts
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    @rice_sandwich Awesome! Looking forwarding to hearing your thoughts.
  • rice_sandwich 12 Mar 2018 20:28:39 6,453 posts
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    @Nielzor

    My first thought is that you have Julian Rignall's haircut from his ZZAP! 64 days :)
  • Nielzor 12 Mar 2018 23:40:07 484 posts
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    @rice_sandwich Ha! Maybe it's finally time to add a mullet to the mix...
  • ping_of_the_pong 13 Mar 2018 10:08:32 1 posts
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    Hello all. I have also entered the scary world of self publishing. If you have a penchant for dark fantasy then please check out www.christopherpercy.co.uk where you can find links to free short stories. These 'shorties' complement my main novel. There will be one more (totalling four) story coming in the next few days/weeks and then I will be getting my next novel ready for uploading sometime in July.
    Er, that is it basically. The short stories will be free forever. However, if you visit via Amazon they will cost .99p as Amazon are surprisingly inflexible when it comes to price structuring. Every other website lets me give stuff away.......Just wanted to let other people know that I am out here in cyberspace. Hello, that dot is me waving at you.
  • rice_sandwich 13 Mar 2018 12:46:03 6,453 posts
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    Has anyone tried Scrivener?

    It looks like it has a lot of useful features but might get in the way of sitting down and writing compared to regular word processors.

    https://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener/overview
  • sunjumper 13 Mar 2018 13:03:16 3,532 posts
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    rice_sandwich wrote:
    Has anyone tried Scrivener?

    It looks like it has a lot of useful features but might get in the way of sitting down and writing compared to regular word processors.

    https://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener/overview
    Iíve been using Scrivener for quite a while now and I like it a lot. It is neat tool to write with and it is great to keep all your ideas and sources and other bits and bobs together in one place, while supporting all the functions of a modern word processor that you need when writing.
    The down side is that, having many functions it takes time and a couple of tutorials to make the most of it.

    On the other hand you could use ImmersEd which provides you with a blank screen to write in an no other distractions whatsoever. You can add some usefull things, like a word counter and target and a clock. You can also activate the sounds of a typewriter while typing which I love. And it allows you to save everything in two different locations so that you always have a backup of whatever you are working on.

    I have used both and think they are both great in diametrically different ways. ImmersEd is better for first drafts or when you really just want to put words on paper.
    Scrivener has the advantage when you are planning, editing and polishing.
  • BearFishPie 13 Mar 2018 13:04:59 810 posts
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    @rice_sandwich I have it, but havenít taken enough time playing about with it to get much value yet. If you use it as intended, you have a one-stop shop for your novel, divided by chapter, and relevant notes, research etc. It also has tools for ebook export etc. But it also means you have to have Scrivener installed on the computer youíre working on (obviously) so unlike say Google Docs writing a few paras on a work computer during a lunch break isnít all that straightforward. Definitely worth investigating though, I know there are a lot of people who swear by it.
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