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Dirtbox 92,595 posts
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Dirtbox wrote:
If anything it is a positive, the mixing of races benefits genetic diversity greatly. A mono culture that white supremists seem so beholden to is actually the worst outcome for the evolution of the human race.
I mean, it might to someone. Having a bit of cultural flavour and blood relatives doesn't do any harm anyway. -
ResidentKnievel 7,679 posts
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Registered 14 years agoMy workplace is about 80% female and new hires tend to be female despite it being a STEM field, so the point about employers tending to hire people who are like them rings true in my experience. -
Stickman 29,986 posts
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Registered 17 years agoJoelStinty wrote:
I agree with you (maybe an opinion piece rather than a game review, but either way), I just mean if you’re going to judge someone’s work on a particular spectrum, you also have to be judged against the same yardstick.
@Stickman the reviewer is perfectly entitled to question the integrity of a game and it’s intentions. Especially when it comes from a person who has openly been been provocative about supporting white race ideas in the media/social media/at events -
Dirtbox 92,595 posts
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Registered 19 years agoMr_Sleep wrote:
Sadly countered by being half Irish.
Dirtbox wrote:
If anything it is a positive, the mixing of races benefits genetic diversity greatly. A mono culture that white supremists seem so beholden to is actually the worst outcome for the evolution of the human race.
I mean, it might to someone. Having a bit of cultural flavour and blood relatives doesn't do any harm anyway. -
Tonka 31,979 posts
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Registered 18 years agoDirtbox wrote:
It sets the stage for a no win situation where any brown eyed person only got hired because quotas and any white male because better than the rest.
Tonka wrote:
I'd love to hear your reasoning for that. But then again I wouldn't because you're a fucking moron.
Tokenism is a tinfoil conspiracy that scared white males like to blame when they fear that they'll lose their jobs.
It also assumes that diversity and inclusion aren't worth anything by themselves. -
Tonka 31,979 posts
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Registered 18 years agoSkirlasvoud wrote:
When? You guys keep talking as if this is a well established fact. I must have missed out on some big public disaster that happened in the UK.
Token-ism is bad and leads to disaster.
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Dirtbox 92,595 posts
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Registered 19 years agoDiversity and inclusion is worth less than nothing if you plonk someone who can't do the job into a position where they're visibly shit. You're casting their whole demographic's ability into doubt for that placement.
If you were the only Swedish poster on this forum, it wouldn't look great for Sweden.
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You-can-call-me-kal 23,013 posts
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Registered 15 years agoDirtbox wrote:
Diversity and inclusion is worth less than nothing if you plonk someone who can't do the job into a position where they're visibly shit. You're casting their whole demographic's ability into doubt for that placement.
Do shit white people cast their entire demographic into doubt? -
Dirtbox 92,595 posts
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Registered 19 years agoNot when they're the majority. The sad fact of the matter is individuals who are a relative oddity in their field are representative of their demographic. I have heard "I'm not hiring any more -insert demographic here-, they can't do activity X." many times in many fields. -
Dirtbox 92,595 posts
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Registered 19 years ago@brigadier 's employers probably think all white people are sub-par teachers according to his own reasons. -
You-can-call-me-kal 23,013 posts
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Registered 15 years agoYour experience does not make it a ‘fact’. -
Tonka 31,979 posts
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Registered 18 years agoDirtbox wrote:
When did this happen? I'm not trying to be confrontational here but this assumes that there aren't any skilled people of color.
Diversity and inclusion is worth less than nothing if you plonk someone who can't do the job into a position where they're visibly shit.
OR there's a well known case that I've just not heard about. Enlighten my lilly white ass. -
Dirtbox 92,595 posts
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Registered 19 years agoIt's not just my experience, there are a half dozen other people in this thread with the exact workplace experience of token employment that corroborates it. -
Dirtbox 92,595 posts
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Registered 19 years ago@Tonka read this thread. Rogueywon in particular nailed it.
Inclusive recruitment and token recruitment aren't the same thing.
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Raiftel 287 posts
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Registered 15 years ago@You-can-call-me-kal Reading the average comment on Eurogamer does cast my fellow white dudes in a shockingly bad light. -
You-can-call-me-kal 23,013 posts
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Registered 15 years agoDirtbox wrote:
A sample of six, all potentially with whatever cognitive bias you might have.
It's not just my experience, there are a half dozen other people in this thread with the exact workplace experience of token employment that corroborates it. -
Dirtbox 92,595 posts
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Registered 19 years agoNot to mention being recruited to fill a diversity quota is fucking demeaning. -
THFourteen 54,987 posts
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Registered 16 years agoThey should rename this site mailvsguardiangamer.net -
Dirtbox 92,595 posts
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Registered 19 years agoFrom where I'm sitting, the cognitive bias is entirely yours, kal.
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You-can-call-me-kal 23,013 posts
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Registered 15 years agoDirtbox wrote:
We both have it. Everyone does. It’s one of the main reasons diversity is so important and needs to be forced to mitigate it.
From where I'm sitting, the cognitive bias is entirely yours, kal. -
ResidentKnievel 7,679 posts
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Registered 14 years agoDirtbox wrote:
Sounds like those fields need some diversity hiring practices to combat these biases
I have heard "I'm not hiring any more -insert demographic here-, they can't do activity X." many times in many fields. -
Dirtbox 92,595 posts
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Registered 19 years agoTrue, my being aware and your not being aware is a problem. -
You-can-call-me-kal 23,013 posts
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Registered 15 years agoYou’ve lost me. -
Dirtbox 92,595 posts
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Registered 19 years agoI'm having a great deal of trouble trying to understand what point you're even trying to make, if you have one. -
simpleexplodingmaybe 19,992 posts
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Registered 6 years agoDirtbox wrote:
I don't think anyone is saying hire shite people for their race
Diversity and inclusion is worth less than nothing if you plonk someone who can't do the job into a position where they're visibly shit. You're casting their whole demographic's ability into doubt for that placement.
If you were the only Swedish poster on this forum, it wouldn't look great for Sweden. -
Mr_Sleep wrote:
It’s just not that simple. See the average IQ of Ashkenazi Jews and their massive over-representation among leading scientists for example.
Dirtbox wrote:
If anything it is a positive, the mixing of races benefits genetic diversity greatly. A mono culture that white supremists seem so beholden to is actually the worst outcome for the evolution of the human race.
I mean, it might to someone. Having a bit of cultural flavour and blood relatives doesn't do any harm anyway. -
Dirtbox 92,595 posts
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Registered 19 years agosimpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
Someone hired thforteen, didn't they?
Dirtbox wrote:
I don't think anyone is saying hire shite people for their race
Diversity and inclusion is worth less than nothing if you plonk someone who can't do the job into a position where they're visibly shit. You're casting their whole demographic's ability into doubt for that placement.
If you were the only Swedish poster on this forum, it wouldn't look great for Sweden. -
Skirlasvoud 4,039 posts
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Registered 11 years agoGaol wrote:
The thing with excelling, is that everyone should have a chance to do so. IQ in population groups can be raised by exposing them to tasks that require IQ. South-East Asians have higher standard IQ since they've been forming scholarly societies for historically longer than us. Same goes for the Ashkenazi Jews if this is correct.
Mr_Sleep wrote:
It’s just not that simple. See the average IQ of Ashkenazi Jews and their massive over-representation among leading scientists for example.
Dirtbox wrote:
If anything it is a positive, the mixing of races benefits genetic diversity greatly. A mono culture that white supremists seem so beholden to is actually the worst outcome for the evolution of the human race.
I mean, it might to someone. Having a bit of cultural flavour and blood relatives doesn't do any harm anyway.
The only reason why certain population groups are reported to have a higher IQ than others, is an insufficient dispersal of opportunity.
Mixing races and genders and giving the human population as a whole an equal opportunity to excel, regardless of whether they manage, is still important to all of us.
Edited by Skirlasvoud at 16:40:36 25-03-2018 -
A horrible and extremely well known example of a minority being held to account for the actions of a few. In the US, all brown people were basically forced to decry the acts of terrorism like the nightclub shooting. Sikhs, Muslims and so on were shot, temples and mosques burned and why, exactly? Because of the ignorance of a white majority.
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