Do your politics and friendships often collide? Page 2

  • thelzdking 18 Jun 2018 11:29:19 9,353 posts
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    I had a friend - more of an acquaintance really - whom I distanced myself from because he said that he didn't like seeing black people with "our women" and then asked if I believed in ZOG. I wouldn't be that bothered if he was just a bit UKIP (although I've never met a UKIP supporter who wasn't an idiot), but if you're banging on about ZOG then you're almost certainly a cunt as well as an idiot.
  • monkman76 18 Jun 2018 11:31:37 14,714 posts
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    ZOG the Julia Donaldson book? It's actually got a pretty progressive message to be fair.
  • Psiloc 18 Jun 2018 11:32:26 5,065 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    I think it's also important to draw a distinction between 'right wing' and 'wanker', because I think too many people allow themselves and other people to hide abhorrent views behind politics.

    I've not really got a huge problem with 'let the markets sort it out' and 'small government' as an ideology but 'send then all back' and 'she was born a woman, she's a woman' is just wankerish.
    Yes it's essential we remember that not all right wingers are cunts, just the enormous majority

    Edited by Psiloc at 11:32:59 18-06-2018
  • Help_me 18 Jun 2018 11:32:28 1,049 posts
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  • Help_me 18 Jun 2018 11:33:15 1,049 posts
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    @monkman76 Exactly what I was thinking. You can tell who has kids!
  • up_the_ante 18 Jun 2018 11:40:05 1,019 posts
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    My dad refuses to go back to his keep fit class because they had a massive argument about politics. It's a shame because it's probably taken a few years off his life.

    What annoys me about my dad is that he's quite political but he refuses to listen to any side but his own. He doesn't use the internet but if any politician that's not from his party comes on the TV or radio the volume immediately gets turned down, so he lives in an little self created bubble.
  • Rodderz 18 Jun 2018 11:40:18 3,935 posts
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    quadfather wrote:
    Yup.

    I live in a pretty small village, and the local pub is the hub of the village community, so so you end up 'having' to be around people sometimes.
    Do you live in Emmerdale quad? :p
  • Deleted user 18 June 2018 11:44:39
    up_the_ante wrote:
    My dad refuses to go back to his keep fit class because they had a massive argument about politics. It's a shame because it's probably taken a few years off his life.

    What annoys me about my dad is that he's quite political but he refuses to listen to any side but his own. He doesn't use the internet but if any politician that's not from his party comes on the TV or radio the volume immediately gets turned down, so he lives in an little self created bubble.
    That's interesting. There's a lot of talk about echo chambers and the digital world, but having grown up through the 80s and 90s, I don't think it was that different. People would watch a news show, read a paper or listen to a radio station which confirmed their bias. Everyone else was a cunt, just like today.

    I know it's not that black and white but I think it has always been an issue, though undoubtedly exacerbated by social networks and people given the illusion they can broadcast their bile and people will care about it.

    Having said that, it is useful for catching out idiots, like that Tory candidate who had previously tweet about aids and jews and such.

    Edited by Jyzzy-Z at 11:46:33 18-06-2018
  • quadfather 18 Jun 2018 11:47:51 34,450 posts
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    Rodderz wrote:
    quadfather wrote:
    Yup.

    I live in a pretty small village, and the local pub is the hub of the village community, so so you end up 'having' to be around people sometimes.
    Do you live in Emmerdale quad? :p
    We even have a guy that rebuilds stone walls that walks around 20-30 miles a day boring everyone to tears with tales that you can barely understand because he has 3 teeth.
  • mothercruncher 18 Jun 2018 12:41:50 16,197 posts
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    monkman76 wrote:
    ZOG the Julia Donaldson book? It's actually got a pretty progressive message to be fair.
    Spot the parent 😉
    Thereís a sequel out, by the way, where they fly about helping people on Zog.
    Only the whites though.
  • mothercruncher 18 Jun 2018 12:44:52 16,197 posts
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    RandolphCarter wrote:
    I bond with people...
    Suuuuure you do.
  • RyanDS 18 Jun 2018 12:47:36 12,742 posts
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    RandolphCarter wrote:
    I have, or have had, friends from both sides of the political spectrum. Personally, I am largely apolitical. The truth is, your views ultimately count for nothing in the grand scheme of things. Your vote is practically worthless, so your views will have virtually no impact on my life, so your politics are of little concern to me.
    Say what you like about the tenats of nazism dude but at least itís an ethos.
  • JamboWayOh 18 Jun 2018 12:49:16 13,130 posts
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    I've definitely collided with friends when I've discovered their personal politics, one mate especially at uni was very much a conservative with a capital C, he'd walk past a homeless person and go on about how much they as pejorative term really fucked him off as they were just life's quitters and they needed to shake themselves up. He would also go on about people getting handouts and the like, it wasn't a coincidence that I found out that he had never experienced any kind of hardship in his life and had the use of a summer home in Nice.
  • quadfather 18 Jun 2018 12:51:55 34,450 posts
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    @JamboWayOh

    They're the worst. They have no taste of shit that can happen and look down on everyone. I hate cunts like that. Narrow minded wankers.
  • JamboWayOh 18 Jun 2018 12:55:01 13,130 posts
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    @quadfather

    I also found it quite uncomfortable because I was in receipt of a hardship grant for Uni because my mum wasn't loaded enough to pay for my rent and whatnot. Anyway we don't really talk now because it all got quite draining after a while.
  • JamboWayOh 18 Jun 2018 12:57:06 13,130 posts
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    RandolphCarter wrote:

    I bond with people over shared interests other than politics. In fact, my conversations with people almost never extend to politics. I may on occasion ask them for their opinion on a certain subject, listen to what they say and then simply carry on with a different topic of discussion
    #cognitivedissonance
  • Dougs 18 Jun 2018 12:58:08 89,122 posts
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    If I let politics get in the way, I'd probably not speak to most of my family. So I juts steer the conversation away from it, or close off discussions. It's not worth it.

    There is one friend (well, wife's friend's husband) who appears to have turned into a right wing, ultra-republican-esque nut job though. To the point that I'm not sure I want to socialise with him, if we have the chance to. My wife thinks it's because he's always liked to take the opposite stance to 'normal' but I think it's becoming clear that was just a cover.
  • Load_2.0 18 Jun 2018 12:59:39 29,322 posts
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    Mustard around the anus will resolve a lot political differences.

    Seeded of course, not Hot English.

    Its not a divorce!
  • warlockuk 18 Jun 2018 13:14:53 19,491 posts
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    I think the bubble keeps me a bit shielded, though you do see a bit of it on places like Facebook... you do what you can, calling people out for stupid unsubstantiated memes and stuff but eventually it all kicks off. After a while of screaming into the wind you either cut the nutters out or don't talk to that person as much about stuff.
    I think I've been mostly fine so far. Like most people it's usually the parents that are curiously anti-Europe whilst still going there a shitload and having loads of European friends. Weird shit.
  • Dougs 18 Jun 2018 13:24:54 89,122 posts
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    Brexit anecdote ahoy, but my brother was a case in point. He spent 7 years living in Spain. His daughter lives in France, married to a Tunisian guy who is only in France due to EU law and he still voted leave (apparently due to all the Lithuanians where we live - must be a handful at most) and acts surprised when she's pissed off at him. "you'll be OK though, won't you?" Maybe, maybe not. It's just fucked up.
  • Rivuzu 18 Jun 2018 13:26:57 18,143 posts
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    I watched my mum go from left-wing, Labour voting, greater good type to extreme right-wing, UKIP voting, get out of my country johnny foreigner once she got married.

    They're both pro-brexit, pro-UKIP and honestly a stones throw away from white supremacy. It really is quite fucking vile.

    Last time we spoke, she asked why I didn't see her or talk to her more often and I told her I didn't agree with what she was doing or saying, especially on social media. Her response was to accuse me of being one of "them" and how I'd end up ruining the country.

    Not looking forwards to crimbo at this rate.
  • quadfather 18 Jun 2018 13:30:41 34,450 posts
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    Jeez :/
  • Load_2.0 18 Jun 2018 13:36:41 29,322 posts
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    If you have seen your community go through a period of substantial change in its ethnic and cultural makeup relatively quickly its bound to unsettling for a lot of people. Especially if those communities had remained fairly static for several generations. The media hasnt helped, some of the stories they ran were criminal in stirring up hate and division.

    It doesnt need to be a them and us arguement the left is just as determined not to cede a single point or concern as the right.

    If I was a David Icke type I would be more concerned about the hideous powers governments have granted themselves and their agencies whilst a divided population fights one another.
  • Deleted user 18 June 2018 13:38:14
    To the OP.

    No. I've no interest in politics and I've eaten all my friends.

    Good luck.
  • thelzdking 18 Jun 2018 13:39:13 9,353 posts
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    The reptilians thrive whilst the hairless apes don't even know they're living in a hologram.
  • fontgeeksogood 18 Jun 2018 13:40:41 6,043 posts
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    The best thing to do would be to fack off back to your own countries. Let's all go back to Africa, maybe work on some farms
  • Rodderz 18 Jun 2018 13:45:47 3,935 posts
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    quadfather wrote:
    Rodderz wrote:
    quadfather wrote:
    Yup.

    I live in a pretty small village, and the local pub is the hub of the village community, so so you end up 'having' to be around people sometimes.
    Do you live in Emmerdale quad? :p
    We even have a guy that rebuilds stone walls that walks around 20-30 miles a day boring everyone to tears with tales that you can barely understand because he has 3 teeth.
    😂 Heh!
  • Rivuzu 18 Jun 2018 13:47:51 18,143 posts
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    Is it one of those lovely picturesque villages, or is it more of a "I am my own grandma" incestuous places where everyone has six toes, a cousin-wife, and people playing banjos at passers by?
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