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  • JamboWayOh 30 Mar 2020 14:19:42 20,053 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    Jesus.

    https://twitter.com/balazscseko/status/1244612142831198209

    Hungarian Parliament passes bill that gives PM Orbán unlimited power & proclaims:

    - State of emergency w/o time limit
    - Rule by decree
    - Parliament suspended
    - No elections
    - Spreading fake news + rumors: up to 5 yrs in prison
    - Leaving quarantine: up to 8 yrs in prison
    I saw this, so yeah Hungary just became a nailed on dictatorship. I'm sure Trump has already congratulated Orban for his strong leadership.
  • beastmaster 30 Mar 2020 14:22:57 20,933 posts
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    Is this for real? As in real real?
  • JamboWayOh 30 Mar 2020 14:48:02 20,053 posts
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    @beastmaster

    Yes.
  • JoelStinty 30 Mar 2020 15:18:36 8,927 posts
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    Been a long time coming but seizing the moment I guess with what’s happening and EU eyes elsewhere .
  • el_pollo_diablo 1 Jul 2020 10:22:51 3,010 posts
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    RIP Hong Kong :-(
  • Psychotext 1 Jul 2020 11:57:25 67,182 posts
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    Ugh... this fucking planet man. =/
  • Load_2.0 1 Jul 2020 12:37:10 31,893 posts
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    Yeah that shit is not good.

    They will absolutely not accept anything other than complete capitulation and HK being a fully fledged Chinese province.
  • RGeefe 1 Jul 2020 13:23:23 1,090 posts
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    90s Tories massively sold them out. If they didn't think it would lead to this they were either ignorant or stupid.

    The thing is, you can't start a trade war over this but I think what we could (nay, SHOULD) do would be to offer amnesty or asylum to Hong Kong nationals who want to protest.
  • DeadDeadpool 1 Jul 2020 13:50:11 56 posts
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    The number of people arrested in the Hong Kong Kong protests has risen to more than 300, the South China Morning Post reports. Of those, nine have been detained under the new security law, it adds.

    Worrying. The question is, will the US send troops in in the name democracy, like they like to do else where on the planet ;)
  • JamboWayOh 1 Jul 2020 13:52:05 20,053 posts
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    RGeefe wrote:
    90s Tories massively sold them out. If they didn't think it would lead to this they were either ignorant or stupid.

    The thing is, you can't start a trade war over this but I think what we could (nay, SHOULD) do would be to offer amnesty or asylum to Hong Kong nationals who want to protest.
    It all depends on how important those trade deals are the Britain wants, past experience says that Britain has absolutely no qualms in dealing with repressive regimes for a dollar or two.
  • Jono62 1 Jul 2020 14:29:00 25,378 posts
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    Well, well

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53246899
  • RGeefe 1 Jul 2020 14:29:45 1,090 posts
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    Ah - the govt have literally just announced the thing I said they should do. Pleasantly surprised. Around 3 million HK residents will be offered chance to stay in the UK for 5 years and then apply for citizenship.
  • DeadDeadpool 1 Jul 2020 14:36:47 56 posts
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    Blame it on the Falun Gong..
    https://youtu.be/FfIZr38DLSg
  • ResidentKnievel 1 Jul 2020 16:20:47 7,421 posts
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    3 million HK residents and their dependants.

    It's a pleasant surprise that this government would do this, it'll be interesting to see how they spin this to the public after shitting on immigrants since forever.
  • alt-cmd-esc 1 Jul 2020 17:25:06 481 posts
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    What's the situation with Macau? Do they have a similar status to Hong Kong? Almost went there with work a few years back, but sadly it all fell through...
  • Psychotext 1 Jul 2020 19:25:27 67,182 posts
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    ResidentKnievel wrote:
    3 million HK residents and their dependants.

    It's a pleasant surprise that this government would do this, it'll be interesting to see how they spin this to the public after shitting on immigrants since forever.
    I wouldn't be overly surprised if they're expecting China to block it in some way.
  • thelzdking 1 Jul 2020 20:39:17 10,117 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    ResidentKnievel wrote:
    3 million HK residents and their dependants.

    It's a pleasant surprise that this government would do this, it'll be interesting to see how they spin this to the public after shitting on immigrants since forever.
    I wouldn't be overly surprised if they're expecting China to block it in some way.
    Yup, China will close the borders, and the trickle who do manage to escape to the UK will be used by the Tories as irrefutable proof that they're not a bunch of xenophobic navel gazers.
  • X201 1 Jul 2020 20:45:58 20,702 posts
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    alt-cmd-esc wrote:
    What's the situation with Macau? Do they have a similar status to Hong Kong? Almost went there with work a few years back, but sadly it all fell through...
    Yep
    Also Taiwan is getting uppity about independence, so they get a slap every now at then too
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 2 Jul 2020 07:14:53 13,999 posts
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    thelzdking wrote:
    Psychotext wrote:
    ResidentKnievel wrote:
    3 million HK residents and their dependants.

    It's a pleasant surprise that this government would do this, it'll be interesting to see how they spin this to the public after shitting on immigrants since forever.
    I wouldn't be overly surprised if they're expecting China to block it in some way.
    Yup, China will close the borders, and the trickle who do manage to escape to the UK will be used by the Tories as irrefutable proof that they're not a bunch of xenophobic navel gazers.
    It was bleak seeing a Chinese official on C4 News last night calling the UK’s bluff. Just straight up saying “you think the British public will accept 3m Hong Kong immigrants?”
  • Armoured_Bear 2 Jul 2020 08:44:08 28,871 posts
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    el_pollo_diablo wrote:
    RIP Hong Kong :-(
    So fucking sad and infuriating, HK is(was) such a brilliant place.
    If there was any decency in the world, there would be massive sanctions from everywhere against China but sadly the CCP can and will do whatever the fuck they want.
  • Load_2.0 2 Jul 2020 08:50:59 31,893 posts
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    I cant estimate how many will choose to leave but I cant see it being 3 million in one immediate exodus.

    Many would probably prefer to try and move to surrounding regions, Taiwan, South Korea, maybe Singapore or Malaysia before the UK. If other countries like Australia make Visa exceptions it's a manageable policy.
  • RGeefe 2 Jul 2020 09:04:15 1,090 posts
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    I actually think you can spin it pretty well over here. The lovely Brits taking in people from our former colony. "Best and brightest" etc. Plus, China's already got PR from covid 19 and 5G.
  • Jono62 2 Jul 2020 09:31:02 25,378 posts
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    @Armoured_Bear You can help in a little way by not buying products made in China.
  • Dougs 2 Jul 2020 09:33:48 94,678 posts
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    Is there much not made in China? At least in some way.
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