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Armoured_Bear 28,823 posts
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THFourteen 53,685 posts
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Registered 15 years agoPICTURE IN PICTURE MODE FOR IPHONE
FUCKIN HELL
WAITED TWENTY YEARS
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yegon 6,498 posts
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ozthegweat 2,500 posts
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Registered 9 years agoYouTube has refused to implement PiP on iPad for years. Wouldn't hold my breath that they do it on iPhone. -
yegon 6,498 posts
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Registered 17 years agoI’m confident it will happen before 2030 given it took them 9 months* to add Gmail dark mode.
To be fair, the iPad YT app is decent enough if you have low expectations. It got split screen pretty quickly, but not PiP as you say. Still a pathetic lack of keyboard shortcuts.
*Some people have had it for ages, pedants, but it wasn’t rolled out to everyone until pretty recently
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Derblington 33,149 posts
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Registered 16 years agoYou-can-call-me-kal wrote:
Nothing really, but I’d rather have a newer model with longer support than buying the old, given the option. If they never released a new one the 4K would be fine.
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Armoured_Bear 28,823 posts
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Registered 8 years agoNah, 30 mins left and they’ve only just started on the ARM chips.
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fontgeeksogood 9,718 posts
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Registered 2 years agoDerblington wrote:
Also one which is caster compatible amirite
You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
Nothing really, but I’d rather have a newer model with longer support than buying the old, given the option. If they never released a new one the 4K would be fine.
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Registered 11 years agoThe airpods automatically switching to whatever device you're using is a function I didn't know I wanted. -
Armoured_Bear 28,823 posts
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Registered 8 years agoAll the MacOs stuff, new own silicon etc. sounds awesome.
I just wanted a new iMac
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THFourteen 53,685 posts
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Registered 15 years agoFake_Blood wrote:
It was actually a function I didn’t realise I wasn’t getting when I bought them. All the reviews said that Bluetooth connectivity was seamless, this was what I expected and didn’t get!
The airpods automatically switching to whatever device you're using is a function I didn't know I wanted. -
beastmaster 20,704 posts
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Registered 16 years agoArmoured_Bear wrote:
Didn’t happen sadly. Probably do something in September which isn’t that far off. Or they’ll probably announce something right after you buy a new one.
All the MacOs stuff, new own silicon etc. sounds awesome.
I just wanted a new iMac
The new chips won’t be introduced into their Macs till next year? Just wondering if they’ll have them in the MacBook Pro. Not going to wait that long. Hopefully get one in November. -
yegon 6,498 posts
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Registered 17 years agoTHFourteen wrote:
Exactly, about time. Had this feature on no name BT ear/headphones for years, I was amazed when the Airpods didn’t have it, especially given all the hype about seamless connection.
Fake_Blood wrote:
It was actually a function I didn’t realise I wasn’t getting when I bought them. All the reviews said that Bluetooth connectivity was seamless, this was what I expected and didn’t get!
The airpods automatically switching to whatever device you're using is a function I didn't know I wanted. -
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Registered 15 years agoI have no problem in principle with an ARM MacBook or MacBook Air. But I can't imagine the performance being good enough for the rest of the PCs. -
Armoured_Bear 28,823 posts
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Registered 8 years agoazurelas_2 wrote:
You might want to watch the keynote.
I have no problem in principle with an ARM MacBook or MacBook Air. But I can't imagine the performance being good enough for the rest of the PCs. -
Armoured_Bear 28,823 posts
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Registered 8 years agobeastmaster wrote:
Wondering whether to just get a Mac Mini to tide me over till a proper iMac comes out that's worth throwing the cash at.
Armoured_Bear wrote:
Didn’t happen sadly. Probably do something in September which isn’t that far off. Or they’ll probably announce something right after you buy a new one.
All the MacOs stuff, new own silicon etc. sounds awesome.
I just wanted a new iMac
The new chips won’t be introduced into their Macs till next year? Just wondering if they’ll have them in the MacBook Pro. Not going to wait that long. Hopefully get one in November. -
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Registered 9 years agoazurelas_2 wrote:
The 9 month old iPhone 11, which has a chip designed around the severe power and thermal constraints of a phone, beats the 16" MacBook Pro with an i9 in single-core performance. I think performance won't be an issue.
I have no problem in principle with an ARM MacBook or MacBook Air. But I can't imagine the performance being good enough for the rest of the PCs.
Bigger issues will be incompatible apps and virtualization of x86 OSs. Granted, the average consumer doesn't care about those things, and sees ARM Macs probably as a big leap forward because they run iPhone and iPad apps. Although, those same people will probably buy less and less Macs anyway and transition to iPads. -
ozthegweat 2,500 posts
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Registered 9 years agoArmoured_Bear wrote:
To be fair, it would have been exceptionally bad timing to reveal new Intel hardware at the same time as announcing the momentous switch to ARM. "Hey, here's a new iMac! Oh bee-tee-dubs, in 6 months there's gonna be new Macs that make this one here look like your grandma on valium."
All the MacOs stuff, new own silicon etc. sounds awesome.
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beastmaster 20,704 posts
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Registered 16 years agoArmoured_Bear wrote:
I don’t think the current Minis are particularly great in terms of value and performance. But if you need a Mac it may be your best option for now.
beastmaster wrote:
Wondering whether to just get a Mac Mini to tide me over till a proper iMac comes out that's worth throwing the cash at.
Armoured_Bear wrote:
Didn’t happen sadly. Probably do something in September which isn’t that far off. Or they’ll probably announce something right after you buy a new one.
All the MacOs stuff, new own silicon etc. sounds awesome.
I just wanted a new iMac
The new chips won’t be introduced into their Macs till next year? Just wondering if they’ll have them in the MacBook Pro. Not going to wait that long. Hopefully get one in November. -
smemma 718 posts
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Registered 12 years ago@ozthegweat definitely a problem - and anyone who pays attention to this stuff is now going to hold off until the new ones. Shame, I was ready to throw money at an iMac, but would obviously rather have the best machine available.... -
smemma 718 posts
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Registered 12 years agoEnd of the year??? https://www.macrumors.com/2020/06/23/kuo-24-inch-imac-new-design-4q20/
Although this only mentions the little iMac - hopefully the new big one comes out at the same time, although with those usually being quite a bit more powerful, maybe they’re not ready for an ARM version of that?
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elstoof 25,682 posts
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Registered 15 years agoozthegweat wrote:
It’s very unlikely that Apple has just announced a switch without having spent the last ~5 years developing desktop ARM processors that are already powerful enough, they won’t just chuck a phone cpu in a MacBook and say that’s it for now
azurelas_2 wrote:
The 9 month old iPhone 11, which has a chip designed around the severe power and thermal constraints of a phone, beats the 16" MacBook Pro with an i9 in single-core performance. I think performance won't be an issue.
I have no problem in principle with an ARM MacBook or MacBook Air. But I can't imagine the performance being good enough for the rest of the PCs.
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TheSaint 19,577 posts
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Registered 15 years agoYou'd still have to be pretty brave to take the plunge on the first-gen of these new ARM devices.
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Registered 15 years agoHold on, are Iphone CPU's more powerful than Intel I9s??? -
nickthegun 81,772 posts
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Registered 15 years agoDefinitely. Never buy the first gen.
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Registered 11 years agoelstoof wrote:
I'm not so sure. I don't trust Apple very much when it comes to their Macs, although the 16" Macbook Pro is certainly a return to form, and shows they're at least still capable of acknowledging issues.
ozthegweat wrote:
It’s very unlikely that Apple has just announced a switch without having spent the last ~5 years developing desktop ARM processors that are already powerful enough, they won’t just chuck a phone cpu in a MacBook and say that’s it for now
azurelas_2 wrote:
The 9 month old iPhone 11, which has a chip designed around the severe power and thermal constraints of a phone, beats the 16" MacBook Pro with an i9 in single-core performance. I think performance won't be an issue.
I have no problem in principle with an ARM MacBook or MacBook Air. But I can't imagine the performance being good enough for the rest of the PCs.
I think the switch to ARM will improve the speed of MacOS, improve Macbook battery life, and allow systems to run far cooler when performing general tasks 99% of the time.
However, good multi-core will be crucial for anyone doing creative work and other intensive CPU tasks and I just hope Apple continues to cater for these users. Lately I get the impression Apple would like their Macbook range to be beautiful "casual" devices rather than hardcore tools for professionals, and I think the shift to ARM will lean into this mantra. -
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Registered 17 years agoAn equivalent to the old 12" Macbook with a 120hz screen and the ability to drive an external 4K display properly would have me switching back to Mac. That form factor is so good for travelling around with. -
Armoured_Bear 28,823 posts
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Single-core yep.
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Armoured_Bear 28,823 posts
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Registered 8 years agobeastmaster wrote:
Yeah, unless they come out with a significant iMac upgrade soon I won't have much choice.
Armoured_Bear wrote:
I don’t think the current Minis are particularly great in terms of value and performance. But if you need a Mac it may be your best option for now.
beastmaster wrote:
Wondering whether to just get a Mac Mini to tide me over till a proper iMac comes out that's worth throwing the cash at.
Armoured_Bear wrote:
Didn’t happen sadly. Probably do something in September which isn’t that far off. Or they’ll probably announce something right after you buy a new one.
All the MacOs stuff, new own silicon etc. sounds awesome.
I just wanted a new iMac
The new chips won’t be introduced into their Macs till next year? Just wondering if they’ll have them in the MacBook Pro. Not going to wait that long. Hopefully get one in November. -
Zerobob wrote:
I’m more optimistic, Apple are pumping everything into this tight vertically integrated ecosystem and they’ve got the resources to do it right
elstoof wrote:
I'm not so sure. I don't trust Apple very much when it comes to their Macs, although the 16" Macbook Pro is certainly a return to form, and shows they're at least still capable of acknowledging issues.
ozthegweat wrote:
It’s very unlikely that Apple has just announced a switch without having spent the last ~5 years developing desktop ARM processors that are already powerful enough, they won’t just chuck a phone cpu in a MacBook and say that’s it for now
azurelas_2 wrote:
The 9 month old iPhone 11, which has a chip designed around the severe power and thermal constraints of a phone, beats the 16" MacBook Pro with an i9 in single-core performance. I think performance won't be an issue.
I have no problem in principle with an ARM MacBook or MacBook Air. But I can't imagine the performance being good enough for the rest of the PCs.
I think the switch to ARM will improve the speed of MacOS, improve Macbook battery life, and allow systems to run far cooler when performing general tasks 99% of the time.
However, good multi-core will be crucial for anyone doing creative work and other intensive CPU tasks and I just hope Apple continues to cater for these users. Lately I get the impression Apple would like their Macbook range to be beautiful "casual" devices rather than hardcore tools for professionals, and I think the shift to ARM will lean into this mantra.
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