Euro 2020 Page 8

  • THFourteen 15 Oct 2019 11:59:43 53,677 posts
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    tonyferrino wrote:
    Mings, not Rashford. And I think he worked in a cold-calling operation trying to sell mortgage products - not quite an advisor. But still, at least he has some life experience.
    Ah I see, my bad. Only had one ear/eye on the first half
  • fontgeeksogood 15 Oct 2019 12:07:20 9,698 posts
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    Mings is a terrific human being off the pitch (sometimes a terrific shithouse on it).

    His career path has been extraordinary. I watched his first game for us - a friendly at Crawley - and he was appalling. That season he went from "probably an athlete but no real football nous" to "crikey he's amazing, maybe losing Cresswell won't be too bad" towards the end. And then by the start of the next season he was so good it was a matter of time before we got a big offer in.

    So glad he's doing well
  • evild_edd 15 Oct 2019 12:44:03 4,232 posts
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    fontgeeksogood wrote:
    evild_edd wrote:
    Completely agree with the above comments on the depressing scenes at last night's match. Seems like a hefty exclusion for the national team might be the only proper deterrent.

    Picking up on fontgeeksogood's aside:
    fontgeeksogood wrote:
    The focus on Sterling is so unfair, as an aside. There will again be a load of press questions for him. He's just a fucking 24 year old kid who plays football, the expectation for him to "represent black players" is, in itself, racist.

    Ahh, football, you utter cunt
    I ask my own aside:

    Are you still a "kid" at 24? I find it weird that professional footballers of all ages are still seen as youngsters. Fair enough for the teenagers who are new on the scene, but a 24-year-old person is an adult by any measure.

    That's not to say Sterling hasn't had to deal with more shit than any person should - he has, thanks to some sections of our despicable press - but he's hardly a child. That fact that he's stood up to tackle the issue on his own terms shows his maturity.
    He shouldn't have to, was my point. The age is really not the takeaway message I wanted to make. He shouldn't have had to have media training (etc), he's been put into the limelight by racist press and the do-gooders equally by having him have to feel like he was some kind of standard bearer for black players.

    Racism in football is insidious
    I get that. Hopefully my post was clear that I'm in agreement with your wider point. The age thing was an aside.
  • evild_edd 15 Oct 2019 12:47:31 4,232 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    When I was 24 I was not a kid. Now that I am 38, I know I was a kid when I was 24 :-)
    Heh. I sort of get your (jokey) point, but that's the kind of thought process that sees retirees saying their opinion is more valid because they're older...

    ... So, by extension, you're a future UKIPper! ;0)
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 15 Oct 2019 12:56:32 24,919 posts
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    That's been apparent for a while.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 15 Oct 2019 16:42:43 19,726 posts
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    Bulgarian football president bloke who said they didnít have a problem with racism has resigned.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50054475
  • Vortex808 15 Oct 2019 16:45:30 13,798 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    Ah I see, my bad. Only had one ear/eye on the first half
    You're Mr Potato head? :-)
  • SolidSCB 15 Oct 2019 16:45:44 12,492 posts
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    Sounds like he's been pushed rather than walked.

    I'm sure it will change the square sum of fuck all over there. Their own manager "Couldn't hear anything" FFS.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 15 Oct 2019 16:50:23 19,726 posts
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    Itís damage limitation to limit action taken against them clearly. Thing is action is somewhat pointless anyway. Theyíre not qualifying for any tournaments anytime soon.
  • SolidSCB 15 Oct 2019 16:56:21 12,492 posts
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    They are one of the poorest sides I've seen in a long time, and I have to watch United every week.

    Any nations guilty of this should be barred from playing any International fixtures for a period of time IMO. No qualifying, no friendlies, no exposure for them or their players whatsoever. Even then it probably won't stop it happening in some places. Fucked up.
  • Graxlar_v3 15 Oct 2019 17:07:05 10,033 posts
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    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    Bulgarian football president bloke who said they didnít have a problem with racism has resigned.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50054475
    I was surprised to see the manager suggesting he couldn't hear any racism and that all he could hear was English supporters calling Bulgaria supporters unacceptable names .

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50050684
  • TheSaint 15 Oct 2019 17:29:04 19,571 posts
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    UEFA charges both countries:

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/oct/15/expel-teams-from-tournaments-over-racism-urges-kick-it-out-chief-bulgaria-england
  • challenge_hanukkah 15 Oct 2019 17:37:18 12,733 posts
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    Bananaforscale will be overjoyed at that balanced, even judgement.
  • nickthegun 15 Oct 2019 17:45:45 81,757 posts
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    England do deserve a charge, too. Obviously, you would expect the sanctions to be a bit different...
  • TheSaint 15 Oct 2019 17:47:54 19,571 posts
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    I think we all know they'll be pretty similar. UEFA can't risk setting a harsh precedent that they'd have to stick to next time Italian or Spanish fans decide to racially abuse someone.
  • nickthegun 15 Oct 2019 17:54:46 81,757 posts
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    Yeah, Iíve been hearing that all day, along with the brilliant excuse that, with a zero tolerance, kick them out approach, international football could be brought to its knees by a single roving band of determined racists.

    Which, to be honest, with the way the world is now is exactly the kind of thing you could see springing out of 4chan for a laugh.
  • CrispyXUKTurbo 15 Oct 2019 18:05:42 2,896 posts
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    What a load of bollocks statement from UEFA, fucking ban em all
  • fontgeeksogood 15 Oct 2019 21:01:54 9,698 posts
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    fontgeeksogood wrote:
    "Surely Uefa and or Fifa will be doing something about open bigotry of countries"

    The last and next World Cup hosts selection should describe how bothered they are about this sort of stuff
  • Dougs 15 Oct 2019 21:27:21 94,076 posts
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    From Guardian min by Mon:

    De Gea looks to have done his hamstring and is being replaced by Kepa. Not good news for Manchester United ahead of their clash with Liverpool at the weekend. I hope Lee Grant is fit.
  • Jono62 14 Nov 2019 19:56:37 25,050 posts
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    Nice strike from the Ox
  • Deleted user 14 November 2019 20:06:09
    There must be an 800 mtre track around the pitch I can't see as Rashford is covering some distance at speed.
  • Jono62 14 Nov 2019 20:09:49 25,050 posts
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    Kane should move to Leicester.
  • spurslol 14 Nov 2019 20:09:56 394 posts
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    Oh no whatever will we do without sterling
  • Deleted user 14 November 2019 20:16:28
    When Rashford hits it stays hit.

    Good grief
  • Baihu1983 14 Nov 2019 20:20:04 12,343 posts
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    A rare wild miss from Kane
  • IMO 14 Nov 2019 20:37:28 7,279 posts
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    Ashely Cole isn't really a pundit.
  • spurslol 14 Nov 2019 20:39:15 394 posts
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    He says wot he finks
  • Deleted user 14 November 2019 21:38:07
    Well, that happened.

    Good to see Abraham get his goal. Game was essentially over at half time so pretty pleased they managed to score another couple.

    Good way to put that last result to bed and the hoo ha over Sterling.

    Looking forward to having my dreams dashed next year.
  • mangojoe 14 Nov 2019 21:47:09 2,477 posts
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    IMO wrote:
    Ashely Cole isn't really a pundit.
    Abraham is the kind of player like Harry who want to be in front of the goal. I'd be worried if he would be behind it Ashely
  • eleven63 14 Nov 2019 22:08:17 2,711 posts
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    We qualified. And loads of games on English soil. We better win this shit next year...
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