Play What You Get, Get What You Play (2019)

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  • Phattso 21 Dec 2018 14:40:00 24,291 posts
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    Following on from the hot mess that was the Ten Game Challenge from 2018, this is an attempt to make things a little less punitive BUT STILL PUNITIVE ENOUGH to perhaps help more people recognise some of their bad habits when it comes to games playing and purchasing. If they want to, they might even break some of those bad habits. Welcome to the club. :)

    See the play on words in the title there? DO YOU SEE? Actually play the games you get, but also actually try to figure out what it is about the games you love that ticks your boxes, and more importantly understand what it is about games you dislike that stops you coming back for more… with the intention that you should STOP FUCKING BUYING SHIT THAT YOU’RE NEVER GOING TO FUCKING PLAY. Capisce? Good.

    Some bad habits that were broken by various participants in the 2018 challenge include:


    - Buying a ‘big’ release just because it was a ‘big’ release - WHY OH WHY DO WE DO THIS?

    - Buying games just because they’re a bargain, regardless of whether they’d actually get played - WHY OH WHY DO WE DO THIS?

    - Buying a game despite having a game un-played in the same genre - WHY OH WHY DO WE DO THIS?

    - Regularly buying a load of games at once, like we’re a freakish gaming octopus able to play them all simultaneously - WHY OH WHY DO WE DO THIS?

    - Pissing about in a game for a short while before binning it for something more shiny for no good reason - WHY OH WHY DO WE DO THIS?

    - Giving up on challenging games in favour of something easier - IT’S NEVER AS TOUGH AS YOU THINK IT IS, YOU’RE JUST A LAZY BASTARD!

    - Developing gaming apathy as a result of too many games, choice paralysis, and basically being a bit shit.


    These habits were broken because there was a limit placed on how many new games a participant could have. This lent a sense of consequence, and some more consideration, to every new game. There was also the public shaming of shonky purchases and weak will, which worked for some people but not Graxlar_V3 obviously, nor AddyB, who failed in week minus 1 and week 2 respectively.

    We didn’t all have a miraculous moment of clarity, but on balance - despite it being REALLY hard sometimes - I’d say there was more good than bad across the board. My own personal journey to love games like I used to was a qualified success, which is way more than I'd expected.

    Onto 2019 then. What has changed? Well, quite a lot actually.

    TL;DR

    THE RULES

    You have five slots.

    When you get a game, it consumes a slot.

    For the purposes of this challenge ‘get’ includes: new purchases, rentals, loans from a mate, stolen items from your housebreaking career, double-dips, gifts, DLC, freebies, Free2Play, AND ANYTHING YOU INSTALL FROM YOUR BACKLOG AFTER THE 25TH OF DECEMBER 2018 (controversial, I know).

    If you ‘finish’ that game - and this might mean different things for different games, which we’ll solve as a community - then it comes back off the list and goes in the Pile of the Vanquished. Nice work, you got a slot back! IMPORTANT: YOU CAN KEEP PLAYING IT EVEN AFTER IT COMES OFF THE LIST!

    If you fail to ‘finish’ that game, then it remains in that slot until you do.

    If you exceed your five slots the calendar year 2019 then you lose.

    Choose wisely.


    THE VARIATIONS & EXCEPTIONS

    Because I’m basically a big softie, here are some variations and exceptions to the above:

    We’ll turn a blind eye to Backlog Surfing and F2P Experimentation. If you wanna fire up a couple of backlog titles just to see what they’re about, or piss about in Warframe or whatever, then nobody will make you count it. If you put more than a couple of hours into it though, it takes a slot.

    For people with PS+ or Games with Gold, as these are byproducts of the Ridiculous Online Console Tax you stupidly keep paying, you will only be deemed to ‘get’ the game if you install it and play it for more than a couple of hours. Treat them as Backlog for the purposes of this challenge.

    If there’s a Humble Bundle that you purchase for a specific title: that title counts, but the rest can just go unloved and un-played on your pile o’ shame (tut tut!) and won’t count towards this challenge, until/unless you play them for more than a couple of hours.

    If you want a game for a specific reason that might preclude technically ’finishing’ the game (for example, I only buy FIFA to play The Journey and never touch any other mode) then you can declare your intent up front and test the waters with the baying mob. When you come to declare the game finished they might turn on you, however, so be careful. ;)

    DLC is included this year, as in it takes a slot, but I think that really only applies to chunky DLC. It it's skins, or something odd like expanding a fighting game roster, then I think we'll have to adapt as we go... erring on the side of turning a blind eye. :)

    Games you started on or before the 25th of December 2018 will not consume a slot. This is to stop the shameless people that load themselves up with dozens of games on New Year’s Eve. Noble heroes already in the 2018 challenge of course won’t be exceeding their ten game allocation. Right, peeps? RIGHT?!



    That’s about it. I’m sure there’ll be some rules lawyering in the coming days, but hopefully we’ve captured the most of it. Big shout out to @rice_sandwich who has been a major contributor to the “this is how you’re fucking it all up, Phattso” feedback pile-on, and without whom we’d probably be looking at something considerably poorer. Cheers, chap.

    So. If you’re game (heh) shout out below, and I’ll add you to The List. No, not Ecosse’s Basement Revenge List. A proper list that actually exists.

    Edited by Phattso at 13:31:00 24-12-2018

    Edited by Phattso at 14:03:12 24-12-2018
  • Phattso 21 Dec 2018 14:40:04 24,291 posts
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    We have 68 victims, and this is how the breakdown of slots used looks right now...

    5🦆 👨🏻🧑🏿👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻🧑🏿👩🧑🏿
    4🦆 👧🏿👨🏻👨🏻👧🏿👨🏻👨🏾👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻
    3🦆 👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻👧🏿👨🏻👨🏻
    2🦆 👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻👩🏾👨🏻🧑🏿👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻
    1🦆 👩👨🏻👨🏻👧🏿👨🏻👨🏻👨🏾👨🏻👨🏻👩👩
    0🦆 👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻👩👨🏻👨🏾👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻👨🏻

    ...plus they have finished 27 games between them, so that's nice.

    Note: demographic breakdown may not be 100% accurate



    👼 Bowak29 ( 🦆 🦆 _ _ _ )
    🦆 The Norwood Suite, Elite: Dangerous


    🏆 Cappy ( _ _ _ _ _ )


    👼 Carlo ( 🦆 🦆 _ _ _ )
    🦆 Battlefield 5, Parkitect


    👼 Ceelion ( 🦆 🦆 _ _ _ )
    🦆 Everybody's Golf, Steep


    🏆 Chug666 ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 _ )
    🦆 Iconoclasts, The Surge, Doom VFR, God of War


    👼 CowsMakeNoise ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 🎯 )
    🦆 Red Dead Redemption 2, Injustice 2, God of War, Vermintide, Oddworld Stranger's Wrath
    🎯 Uncharted: The Lost Legacy


    🏆 crashVoodoo ( 🦆 _ _ _ _ )
    🦆 Red Dead Redemption 2


    👼 DakeyrasUK ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 _ _ )
    🦆 Beat Saber, Astrobot, Super Smash Bros. Ultimate


    🏆 DangerousDave_87 ( 🦆 🦆 _ _ _ )
    🦆 Octopath Traveller, Tumbleseed


    🏆 Derblington ( _ _ _ _ _ )


    👼 Devilligan ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 _ )
    🦆 Red Dead Redemption 2, Resident Evil Revelations, Super Smash Brow Ultimate, Spider-Man


    👼 DMJ ( _ _ _ _ _ )


    👼 docrob ( _ _ _ _ _ )


    👼 Dombat ( 🦆 _ _ _ _ )
    🦆 Red Dead Redemption 2


    💩 dominalien ( 🦆 _ _ _ _ )
    🦆 Dragon Age: Inquisition


    👼 elephantjuice ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 _ _ )
    🦆 AC Odyssey, Smash Bros, Octopath Traveller


    🏆 erniewhatbert ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 )
    🦆 Red Dead Redemption 2, Hyperlight Drifter, The Red Strings Club, Persona 5, Ballistic NG


    👼 Flying_Pig ( _ _ _ _ _ )


    🏆 ghearoid ( 🦆 _ _ _ _ )
    🦆 Xenoblade Chronicles


    👼 Gl3n ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 _ 🎯 🎯 )
    🦆 Uncharted 4, Monkey Island, Red Alert 3, Return of the Obra Dinn
    🎯 Captain Toad, Regency Solitaire


    💩 Graxlar_v3 ( 🦆 _ _ _ _ 🎯 )
    🦆 Tales of Vesperia
    🎯 Devil May Cry


    👼 gordon_woodbine ( _ 🦆 🦆 _ _ 🎯 🎯 )
    🦆 Prey: Mooncrash, CODBLOPS 4
    🎯 Red Dead Redemption 2, Shadow of the Tomb Raider


    🏆 GuybrushFreepwood ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 _ )
    🦆 Pokemon Let's Go, Oxenfree, Okami, LEGO Harry Potter


    👼 HelloNo ( _ _ _ _ _ )


    🏆 Huggybear ( 🦆 _ _ _ _ )
    🦆 AC Odyssey


    💩 Humperfunk ( 🦆 _ _ _ _ )
    🦆 Tales of Vesperia


    🏆 JoelStinty ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 _ _ )
    🦆 Into the Breach, Horizon: Zero Yawn, Hollow Knight


    🏆 Jono62 ( 🦆 _ _ _ _ )
    🦆 Splatoon 2


    🏆 kosigan ( 🦆 _ _ _ _ )
    🦆 The Grand Tour


    🏆 LifeIsStrange ( _ _ _ _ _ )


    👼 Malek86 ( _ _ _ _ _ )


    👼 mangojoe ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 )
    🦆 Battlefield 5, Smash Ultimate, Red Dead Redemption 2, Starlink, Pokemon Let's Go


    🏆 monkman76 ( 🦆 🦆 _ _ _ )
    🦆 Astrobot Rescue, Hitman


    💩 Murbs ( _ _ _ _ _ 🎯 )
    🎯 Oxenfree


    👼 OllyJ ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 🎯 )
    🦆 Battlefield 5, Onrush, Pokemon Let's Go, Ace Combat 7, Everybody's Golf
    🎯 Shadow of the Colossus


    💩 OnlyJoeKing ( 🦆 _ _ _ _ 🎯 )
    🦆 Octopath Traveller
    🎯 Spider-Man DLC


    💩 PazJohnMitch ( 🦆 🦆 _ _ _ 🎯 🎯 🎯 🎯 🎯 )
    🦆 Luigi's Mansion 2, (N) Red Dead Redemption 2
    🎯 (N) Spider-Man, (N) Smash Bros. Ultimate, (N) Oxenfree, (B) NSMBU, (N) Minit


    🏆 Phattso ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 _ )
    🦆 (N) Yoku's Island Express (Switch), (N) Rime (PC), (B) The Banner Saga (Switch), (N) Beat Saber


    👼 PinkyFloyd ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 )
    🦆 Gris (Switch), Yoku's Island Express (Switch), Golf Story (Switch), Dying Light (PS4), Snake (Switch)


    🏆 rice_sandwich ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 )
    🦆 Smash Bros, Project Highrise, Parkitect, Crypt of the Necrodancer, LEGO Harry Potter Collection


    🏆 Red_Bool ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 _ )
    🦆 Pokemon Let's Go, AC Odyssey, Dead Cells, Lumines Remastered


    🏆 Rivuzu ( 🦆 _ 🦆 🦆 🦆 🎯 )
    🦆 Dragonball FighterZ (PC), Dragonball FighterZ (Switch), Mutant Year Zero (PC), Vermintide 2 (PC)
    🎯 Dragonball FighterZ (PS4)


    🏆 robthehermit ( 🦆 🦆 _ _ _ )
    🦆 Red Dead Redemption 2, Hellblade


    🏆 Rodderz ( _ _ _ _ _ )


    🏆 RunningMan ( _ _ _ _ _ )


    👼 RyanDS ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 _ _ 🎯 )
    🦆 Shadow of War, Far Cry 5, Shenmue
    🎯 Octopath Traveller


    👼 SambaApe ( 🦆 _ 🦆 🦆 🦆 🎯 )
    🦆 Assassins Creed: Odyssey, Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus, Alien Isolation, The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
    🎯 DOOM


    👼 Samildanach ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 _ _ )
    🦆 Dark Souls 2 SOTFS, Assassin's Creed IV, Jamestown Plus


    🏆 Saul_Iscariot ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 )
    🦆 Paper Mario Colour Splash, Pokemon Let's Go, Super Mario RPG, God of War, LEGO Marvel 2


    👼 simpleexplodingmaybe ( _ _ _ _ _ )


    👼 SnackPlissken ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 _ )
    🦆 God of War, Unavowed, Smash Ultimate, Pokemon Let's Go


    👼 Spectral ( _ _ _ _ _ )


    👼 splosh ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 _ 🎯 🎯 )
    🦆 Warhammer: Vermintide, Fallout 76, Destiny 2, Resident Evil 2 REMake
    🎯 Detroit, Tetris Effect


    👼 StixxUK ( 🦆 _ 🦆 🦆 🦆 🎯 🎯 )
    🦆 Witcher 3, Hollow knight, Stardew Valley, Zelda BOTW
    🎯 Uncharted 4, Red strings club


    💩 Switch024 ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 )
    🦆 Pokemon Let's Go, Spider-Man, Red Dead Redemption 2, Astrobot Rescue, Beat Saber


    🏆 Technoishmatt ( 🦆 🦆 _ _ _ )
    🦆 Beat Saber, Robo Recall


    💩 the_dudefather ( 🦆 _ 🦆 _ _ 🎯 )
    🦆 Total War: Warhammer 2, Zone of the Enders HD
    🎯 Star Trek Final Unity


    🏆 THFourteen ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 _ _ )
    🦆 Battletech DLC, Torna DLC, Into the Breach


    👼 Toaster05 ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 _ )
    🦆 Red Dead Redemption 2, Fist of the North Star, Smash Bros. Ultimate, Diablo 3


    👼 TommyUnderwear ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 _ _ )
    🦆 Dark Souls, Spider-Man, Smash Bros. Ultimate


    👼 Trafford ( 🦆 🦆 _ _ _ )
    🦆 Odin's Sphere, Resogun


    💩 UncleLou ( 🦆 🦆 _ _ _ )
    🦆 (N) Tetris Effect, (N) Ace Combat 7


    🏆 Vortex808 ( _ _ _ _ _ 🎯 🎯 )
    🎯 Abzu, Doom


    💩 vyseofhr ( 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 )
    🦆 Red Dead Redemption 2, Okami, Syberia 1, Civ 6, Pokemon Let's Go


    🏆 whatfruitlivesagain ( _ _ _ _ _ )


    👼 wuntyphyve ( 🦆 _ _ _ _ )
    🦆 Red Dead Redemption 2


    👼 Zomoniac ( _ 🦆 🦆 🦆 🦆 🎯 🎯 )
    🦆 Mario + Rabbids, Soul Calibur 6, Gorogoa, Danganronpa
    🎯 Red Dead Redemption 2, Hitman


    👼 ZuluHero ( 🦆 🦆 _ 🦆 🦆 🎯 )
    🦆 Red Dead Redemption 2, Nier, Resident Evil 2 REMake, Zelda: BotW
    🎯 Spider-Man

    Edited by Phattso at 13:23:48 19-01-2019
  • Phattso 21 Dec 2018 14:40:08 24,291 posts
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  • Rivuzu 21 Dec 2018 14:48:41 17,659 posts
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    To be clear, you can have 5 on the go at any one time, and as soon as you "finish" one you can retire that, giving you another slot?

    Edit: Giving you BACK a slot I mean.

    Also, this will ruin me as I'll have multiple fighters on the go that you never just "finish". Damn you Phattso!

    Edited by Rivuzu at 14:50:07 21-12-2018
  • Jono62 21 Dec 2018 14:48:43 21,602 posts
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    Sign me up.
  • SambaApe 21 Dec 2018 14:48:49 1,274 posts
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    Thanks for putting the reward in for clearing the backlog. I love the vanquish reward, which will definitely prompts me to try and reduce my 25+ pile of shame.

    I’m in!
  • whatfruitlivesagain 21 Dec 2018 14:50:20 1,495 posts
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    Can we please include within THE Rules, policy on DLC and standalone DLC please.
  • whatfruitlivesagain 21 Dec 2018 14:54:18 1,495 posts
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    Count me in for this year.

    I think I held out until the Steam Winter sale then I went on a splurge like a randy sailor on shore leave. The lesson I learnt this year is I like the idea of vast open complex RPGS than the reality of playing them. Also fuck crafting.
  • monkman76 21 Dec 2018 14:57:50 13,912 posts
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    Sign me up for PWYGGWYP, aka pigwhip.
  • robthehermit 21 Dec 2018 15:03:20 7,089 posts
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    I'll have a go.

    So this years challenge is essentially abandoning 5 games or less. Should be easy enough.
  • GuybrushFreepwood 21 Dec 2018 15:05:48 468 posts
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    Sign me up please Mr Phat.

    And thanks for last year, it was a lot of fun and saved me pounds
  • HelloNo 21 Dec 2018 15:12:46 2,073 posts
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    I'm in, I'm slowly starting to get into the trend of buying games just 'cos and never committing.
  • SnackPlissken 21 Dec 2018 15:16:13 605 posts
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    This might actually work for me.. I really need to stop buying games day one, although fucking resident evil 2 is out next month.....
  • JoelStinty 21 Dec 2018 15:19:29 7,131 posts
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    I’m in just for the banter and seeing graxlar fail by January the 7th.
  • ghearoid 21 Dec 2018 15:32:55 3,169 posts
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    Ah, go on then. The 2018 thread helped keep me on the straight and narrow.

    Plus, it turns out that I can bloody well complete my bloody games if I bloody well stick with them! :)
  • rice_sandwich 21 Dec 2018 15:40:39 4,956 posts
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    I am in. Once more into breach. May you all be rabid in your enjoyment of gaming during 2019.

    Edited by rice_sandwich at 15:55:33 21-12-2018
  • Graxlar_v3 21 Dec 2018 15:41:27 4,777 posts
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    i am in (properly this time)
  • Graxlar_v3 21 Dec 2018 15:41:50 4,777 posts
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    JoelStinty wrote:
    I’m in just for the banter and seeing graxlar fail by January the 7th.
    I have signed in, hoping to last until 1st January this time.
  • Cappy 21 Dec 2018 15:48:19 13,991 posts
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    I can certainly believe that some of the colourful characters around here are able to accommodate five in their slot.

    Sign me up please, I think this may be more of a challenge than 2018 for me since I tend to play a lot of games concurrently.
  • Technoishmatt 21 Dec 2018 15:53:14 3,035 posts
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    Fully committed.

    I tend to play multiplayer shooters to death. I think the first prestige is a good target for “completion”. This is more complicated for new seasons, though.
  • UncleLou Moderator 21 Dec 2018 15:55:07 39,931 posts
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    Oh, sign me up. As you know from this year‘s challenge, my name is Will. Iron Will.

    One question: what about games you don‘t „finish“, but buy for your continued, occasional use? Animal crossing, multiplayer games, score attach games, hell, even a game like Civ, really? A new Diablo season?
  • rice_sandwich 21 Dec 2018 15:57:22 4,956 posts
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    @UncleLou

    Set your own targets. I believe rhis is already mentioned in the rules that Phattso kindly slaved upon throughout his Xmas break.
  • DUFFMAN5 21 Dec 2018 16:03:14 23,937 posts
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    Feck that, I don't even understand the rules.
    I'm out said in best Theo Profiterole voice.

    I will however spend loads of time in here adding both praise and scorn, not necessarily in the equal amounts though.
  • Phattso 21 Dec 2018 16:19:53 24,291 posts
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    Rivuzu wrote:
    Also, this will ruin me as I'll have multiple fighters on the go that you never just "finish". Damn you Phattso!
    I reckon we could arrive at an "hours played" for fighters that could constitute completion. Or maybe fighters mastered? All up for grabs.

    whatfruitlivesagain wrote:
    Can we please include within THE Rules, policy on DLC and standalone DLC please.
    DLC counts. All forms of DLC. In theory, if you're doing it right, DLC would just replace the main game on the list. :)

    monkman76 wrote:
    Sign me up for PWYGGWYP, aka pigwhip.
    I'm more pleased than I should be that this might become known as The PigWhip Challenge. :-D

    UncleLou wrote:
    One question: what about games you don‘t „finish“, but buy for your continued, occasional use? Animal crossing, multiplayer games, score attach games, hell, even a game like Civ, really? A new Diablo season?
    As with the fighting game question above, I think an "hours played" might be sensible at which point it can be considered "finished" and leave the list, even if you're still playing it. You'll be at the mercy of the Band of Bastards, of course, but that's half the fun.

    DUFFMAN5 wrote:
    Feck that, I don't even understand the rules.
    Get game. Game go list. Finish game. Game leave list. Make list not six games. Am win.

    Edited by Phattso at 16:24:06 21-12-2018
  • Vortex808 21 Dec 2018 16:22:43 12,946 posts
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    Graxlar_v3 wrote:
    JoelStinty wrote:
    I’m in just for the banter and seeing graxlar fail by January the 7th.
    I have signed in, hoping to last until 1st January this time.
    Ha! I'll believe that if it happens by jan 2nd! 😃

    I'm in again this year, Phattso.
  • Rivuzu 21 Dec 2018 16:28:29 17,659 posts
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    Phattso wrote:
    Rivuzu wrote:
    Also, this will ruin me as I'll have multiple fighters on the go that you never just "finish". Damn you Phattso!
    I reckon we could arrive at an "hours played" for fighters that could constitute completion. Or maybe fighters mastered? All up for grabs.
    It doesn't work that way mannnnnnnnnnnn. Dragonball FighterZ, Street Fighter V, Soul Calibur 6, DOA6, Mortal Kombat 11 already kill my list. I'm not allowed to play anything else once they're all out! Wah!
  • splosh 21 Dec 2018 16:31:27 139 posts
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    I'm in. So is this starting on the first of January or as of now?
  • Phattso 21 Dec 2018 16:32:26 24,291 posts
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    @Rivuzu You should have better taste in games then. BRANCH OUT, GENRE SOLOIST! ;)

    Edited by Phattso at 16:32:41 21-12-2018
  • rice_sandwich 21 Dec 2018 16:32:51 4,956 posts
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    For fighters you can attempt various goals such as beat the single player campaign, play with every character, play 100 online matches, perform every special attack or whatever else seems fun and challenging.
  • Phattso 21 Dec 2018 16:33:16 24,291 posts
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    splosh wrote:
    I'm in. So is this starting on the first of January or as of now?
    1st of January, but THAT'S NO EXCUSE TO SPLURGE NOW AND WE'RE WATCHING SO BE CAREFUL OR THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES!
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