The Woke AF Thread Page 247

  • drhickman1983 24 May 2021 14:18:05 7,589 posts
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    The fact that Begg's is asking to be allowed to wrestle guys, because he does have an advantage, but nobody wants to allow it, kind of highlights that it's maybe less about being fair and more about transphobia.
  • Your-Mother 24 May 2021 14:18:37 7,655 posts
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    Also the genetics thing is a reaaaaaally slippery slope argument that’s very easy for bigots to pivot and distract on, which makes it even harder to have valid conversations about it where it counts. The same discussion happened more or less every time the color barrier was breached in sports. When Jackie Robinson joined the Dodgers, there were genuinely news articles talking about how African American bone density and length would mean you’d never see a white face winning in sports again.
  • JamboWayOh 24 May 2021 15:11:13 24,300 posts
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    Your-Mother wrote:
    Also the genetics thing is a reaaaaaally slippery slope argument that’s very easy for bigots to pivot and distract on, which makes it even harder to have valid conversations about it where it counts. The same discussion happened more or less every time the color barrier was breached in sports. When Jackie Robinson joined the Dodgers, there were genuinely news articles talking about how African American bone density and length would mean you’d never see a white face winning in sports again.
    Ahhh good old eugenics.
  • RGeefe 24 May 2021 15:44:18 2,141 posts
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    chopsen wrote:
    I do know a handful of women who would otherwise would be considered "progressive" in their outlook (they even voted remain and think climate change is a real problem!) and they look at the some of the stuff that gets bandied about by other progressives regarding trans rights and feel lost/alienated and find it difficult to get behind. It's not that they're broadly against trans people having rights and their needs met, but the state of the debate as it is currently being had by some arbiters of correctness seems off to them.
    Absolutely this. Certainly in the last year or so, I've noticed female friends who are all left-centre, open minded and quite passionate about equality, getting, at the very least, uncomfortable with the way the debate about trans issues is going. I have some that are worried about airing their views for fear of being labelled "terf", which is not conducive to the debate at all.
  • hillbilly66 24 May 2021 15:57:22 3,298 posts
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    We're going to get on to JK Rowling. I don't know that I've seen an example of Trans activism, save for having an article based around it second hand, and I also don't know that the debate is one that is worthwhile because debate implies the two sides can reach a resolution which I'm not sure they can. I think socially gender the way it exists has to be a human right ratified in law. And stuff like sports should get dealt with on a case by case basis I guess.

    Edited by hillbilly66 at 15:57:51 24-05-2021
  • Lukus 24 May 2021 16:00:33 24,460 posts
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    The amount of PED cheating in professional sports kind of makes it all pretty moot anyway.
  • JYM60 24 May 2021 16:05:04 18,984 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    Its a similar thing to brexit. If you are unsure of your stance on the issue, look at who the people telling you that you need to care about it are.
    What an absolutely stupid thing to say. I guess if you like painting and wank over tall blondes you must love Hitler too.
  • Dougs 24 May 2021 17:10:02 99,627 posts
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    Lukus wrote:
    The amount of PED cheating in professional sports kind of makes it all pretty moot anyway.
    Bingo
  • Your-Mother 24 May 2021 17:31:21 7,655 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    Lukus wrote:
    The amount of PED cheating in professional sports kind of makes it all pretty moot anyway.
    Bingo
    Yeah. It's why "not a big deal" is a fair statement as on the list of "things to fix for fairness in sports" it's a little ways down. But it's an easy thing for media to amplify as it's a social justice issue that can be binaried by idiots, so that's where the focus goes.
  • nickthegun 24 May 2021 17:32:59 86,899 posts
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    JYM60 wrote:
    nickthegun wrote:
    Its a similar thing to brexit. If you are unsure of your stance on the issue, look at who the people telling you that you need to care about it are.
    What an absolutely stupid thing to say. I guess if you like painting and wank over tall blondes you must love Hitler too.
    I dont really understand what youre saying but, ok, thanks for participating.
  • Wayne 10 Jun 2021 11:07:56 3,626 posts
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    He will always be Fatty to me.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/57305632
  • Jono62 10 Jun 2021 11:14:56 26,991 posts
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    Surprised it's still going tbf.
  • drhickman1983 10 Jun 2021 11:30:15 7,589 posts
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    I look forward to Lozza and Burchill and all the other outrage merchants kicking off over this important issue.
  • Alan_Wakes_Torch 10 Jun 2021 11:34:09 139 posts
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    Kids come in all shapes and sizes and we absolutely celebrate that.
    Despite the name change, Freddy will still look the same but may be drawn slightly thinner.
    Bit of a mixed message there
  • Lukus 10 Jun 2021 11:37:17 24,460 posts
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    What about Pie Face?
  • Lukus 10 Jun 2021 11:37:18 24,460 posts
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    What about Pie Face?
  • nickthegun 10 Jun 2021 11:40:00 86,899 posts
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    And Plug. So called because he is 'Plug Ugly'.
  • robthehermit 10 Jun 2021 11:46:44 8,493 posts
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    There's mixed messaging about everything, and to be honest a bit of fat shaming should be allowed.
  • creepiest-lizard 10 Jun 2021 11:56:30 2,589 posts
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    Wouldn't kids just find The Beano horribly quaint nowadays
    They don't even have any powers for fucks sake
  • nickthegun 10 Jun 2021 12:01:58 86,899 posts
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    Or big anime tits
  • JamboWayOh 10 Jun 2021 12:09:39 24,300 posts
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    Beano was way better than the Dandy, although I was a fan of Minnie the Minx who was very progressive for her time.
  • Lukus 10 Jun 2021 12:13:59 24,460 posts
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    It's weird when you realise minx can also mean sexy...
  • JamboWayOh 10 Jun 2021 12:14:26 24,300 posts
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    Like I said... progressive.
  • Lukus 10 Jun 2021 12:14:37 24,460 posts
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    Haha
  • Jono62 10 Jun 2021 12:21:27 26,991 posts
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    Whizzer and Chips still around as well?
  • Wayne 10 Jun 2021 12:22:58 3,626 posts
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    Alan_Wakes_Torch wrote:
    Kids come in all shapes and sizes and we absolutely celebrate that.
    Despite the name change, Freddy will still look the same but may be drawn slightly thinner.
    Bit of a mixed message there
    Wokists will argue there should be representation of overweight people, without giving them insulting names.
  • Lukus 10 Jun 2021 12:23:13 24,460 posts
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    For a long time as a kid I genuinely thought Winker Watson was called Wanker Watson. I guess I didn't read so good.
  • JamboWayOh 10 Jun 2021 12:28:49 24,300 posts
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    While we're at it is Softy Walter still kinda fey?
  • robthehermit 10 Jun 2021 15:34:33 8,493 posts
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    Maya Forstater has won her appeal and gender critical views are indeed protected under law.
  • robthehermit 10 Jun 2021 15:34:34 8,493 posts
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