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Low skilled does not equal easy or simple. I think it is a fair term and doesn't necessarily denigrate anyone. Burger flipping is low skill but I respect someone working hard in high heat even if the training requirement is low. Just saying. |
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RyanDS 14,073 posts
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elstoof 28,125 posts
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Registered 16 years agoI only tip highly skilled workers. I had some surgery last year and as they wheeled me to the theatre I stuck a folded £10 more into my surgeons pocket, gave him a wink and said “do a good job and you can get yourself one on me son” just before succumbing to the anaesthetic -
JYM60 19,085 posts
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Registered 15 years agoRyanDS wrote:
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Low skilled does not equal easy or simple. I think it is a fair term and doesn't necessarily denigrate anyone.
Burger flipping is low skill but I respect someone working hard in high heat even if the training requirement is low.
Just saying. -
Anthony_UK 3,094 posts
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Registered 16 years agoI'm typing this working from home in my kitchen. My job is skilled in that I'm paid for the knowledge in my head, but that's simply been gained over a 20 year career. I don't view it as skilled, more fortunate I decided to stick to one particular field. I'm comfortable with very little stress.
Training and education may give you a "skilled" job, but it doesn't elevate you beyond anyone else, you're just just trained to do that specific task. Whether it be a doctor, train driver or circus performer.
People may have been driven from a young age, supportive parents and friends where obviously there's reasons why people don't follow that path.
A friend of mine works in retail. They own their house and car and prefer the flexibility and lack of stress despite the relative low pay. It's viewed again as a "low skilled job" but they were stocking shelves at 5am this morning to start todays shift, spent 4 hours on the door in the rain in a branded coat guiding customers with the remainder of the day spent on a till. All while sweltering wearing a mask while the customers don't bother.
You couldn't pay me to do that job and alot of others. So if i'm fortunate enough to spend £100+ on a meal without thinking, tipping a tenner so the waiter can have a few pints with his mates afterwards as one example, for me personally seems the decent thing to do. -
anephric 5,274 posts
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Registered 14 years agoIt should be noted I have worked with first responders, disaster victim recovery teams and environmental clean-up crews (ie people who pick up body parts and clean up human tissue) who get paid the same as or only slightly more than an average retail or hospitality worker.
Sadly, the punters in those jobs don't tip well, sometimes even at all! -
elstoof 28,125 posts
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Registered 16 years agoPlenty of loot to thrift from the pockets and fingers as a first responder though -
anephric 5,274 posts
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Registered 14 years agoYou would not be surprised to discover that happens. Or the amount of poncy watches that go missing from police evidence rooms. -
PazJohnMitch 17,276 posts
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Registered 14 years agoI have always been very polite to low skilled workers.
I do not think I could have coped spending my life doing low/unskilled and low paid work. I would have gotten bored and bitter very quickly. (Fuck I have a high skilled job that pays half decent and I am still bored and bitter).
If the only prospect I had was flipping burgers I would have turned to crime and/or drugs very quickly. So I have to respect the people that can cope with doing those jobs. Especially given the grief many other people give them. -
mothercruncher 19,474 posts
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Registered 15 years agoNever money, but I instead I write a useful tip on the receipt instead, like, next time you’re putting your grips on your BMX, try using hairspray, that kinda thing -
mrpon 37,366 posts
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Registered 15 years agoThe Broke AF Thread -
Tonka 31,979 posts
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Registered 18 years agoBurger flipping is a skillet job -
JYM60 19,085 posts
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Registered 15 years ago@Tonka How skilled is being a cryptocurrency expert though? -
Technoishmatt 5,365 posts
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Registered 7 years agoOn tipping a server in the US - it isn't nearly as simple as it is in the UK. I had it explained to me buy one of my bosses when I was living there who in their earlier years had worked in a bar. Basically, front of house collect the tips, but that isn't all for themselves. There is a whole economy going on. From their tips, the server has to tip the bar - and if you aren't generous you get slower drinks for your tables. You have to tip the bus boy or your tables don't get cleared. You have to tip the host or they don't put people at your table. You have to tip the kitchen or they don't prioritise your food orders. -
TechnoHippy 19,245 posts
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Registered 18 years agoTonka wrote:
This deserves a like
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Dougs 100,414 posts
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Registered 18 years ago@Technoishmatt but if virtually everybody tips.... -
anephric 5,274 posts
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Registered 14 years agoSome of the restaurants I went to in the US had the option of buying beers for the kitchen staff on top of tipping the servers. -
Technoishmatt 5,365 posts
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Registered 7 years agoDougs wrote:
Not sure I understand, but there are definitely variations in tipping. 20% is standard, but some people definitely do more (as well as less). And there is a whole question in some places on whether it is pre or post tax (it is pre, but some people chance it!!!).
@Technoishmatt but if virtually everybody tips....
And to be clear, as a customer you generally only tip the server. The server then tips on the other people. (You might tip the host I guess but we never did).
And yeah, ordering drinks at a bar it is $1 for easy drinks (beer, wine, etc), $2 for a cocktail. And this is even in places where it is all you can drink for free! -
chopsen 21,958 posts
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Registered 16 years agomuddyyfunster wrote:
This is the perfect example of why it's a nonsense.
Bar staff - that's another US tipping fail story
We knew that in the US it was customary to tip bar staff and after our restaurant embarrassment we assumed that must be 20% as well. We must have looked so young and naive that after about six rounds, the barman basically took pity on us, gave us some free beers and politely asked if we realised that we only needed to tip a dollar each time! Good guy.
There is an established price for what you're paying for, but it's a unspoken and unwritten. However both sides would normally know what it is. But nobody is telling you. -
elstoof 28,125 posts
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Registered 16 years agoLast time I had dinner in New York with a friend who’s from there, I watched him struggle with the bill trying to calculate an acceptable tip and then round it up to an even number - they swipe the card to open the payment, then give your card back and finalise the transaction once you’ve written it out, apparently he’s been stung a few times where they added a little extra gratuity themselves so he now does this round number thing every time in order to make checking his credit card statement easier
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anephric 5,274 posts
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Registered 14 years agoThe fact that it was/is standard practice for staff to walk off with your credit card at the start of a meal is something I never got used to in the States. It's mental, in fact. -
chopsen 21,958 posts
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Registered 16 years agoYeah, after being indoctrinated to keep your card on you and keep you PIN secret, having some stranger just flounce off with it was a bit of a shock.
How is credit card fraud not massive over there?
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Your-Mother 8,172 posts
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Registered 5 years agoChip and pin is standard now, as is contactless. There's also that card fraud is pretty much a federal crime and fairly easy to identify and detect with zero liability on most accounts, so a server capturing card numbers isn't just fired but could also get prison time for both credit and identity fraud. -
simpleexplodingmaybe 19,992 posts
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Registered 6 years agoIt was so strange going over there when we had chip & pin and they didn’t -
muddyyfunster 1,371 posts
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Registered 11 years agochopsen wrote:
It is nonsense and in an ideal world, everyone would get a fair wage and tipping would be genuinely discretionary and exceptional.
muddyyfunster wrote:
This is the perfect example of why it's a nonsense.
Bar staff - that's another US tipping fail story
We knew that in the US it was customary to tip bar staff and after our restaurant embarrassment we assumed that must be 20% as well. We must have looked so young and naive that after about six rounds, the barman basically took pity on us, gave us some free beers and politely asked if we realised that we only needed to tip a dollar each time! Good guy.
There is an established price for what you're paying for, but it's a unspoken and unwritten. However both sides would normally know what it is. But nobody is telling you.
Equally when you're in someone else's country you just have to roll with it and accept these percularities. It's not like us Brits are short of nonsensical etiquette and non communicated expected norms of our own.
E.g. Bloody Americans coming over here and talking too loudly at us... -
nickthegun 87,711 posts
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Registered 16 years agoYeah, I do tip when I'm abroad abroad. A few baht isn't going to kill me.
On the same note, I don't generally bother haggling either unless it happens by accident when you genuinely don't want the thing. -
Dougs 100,414 posts
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Registered 18 years ago"10 for that, you must be mad etc"
I hate haggling too. I like my transactions to be as non-verbal and speedy as possible. -
mothercruncher 19,474 posts
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Registered 15 years agoEspecially with prostitutes. -
Especially. Waste of both our times otherwise
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