Frogofdoom wrote:Yup. It's absolutely nauseating. Just bluff, bluster, empty rhetoric and meaningless platitudes. |
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Dgzter 3,516 posts
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d_h1234 298 posts
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Registered 11 years agoGive the people what they want. -
Graxlar_v3 10,809 posts
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Registered 3 years agod_h1234 wrote:
a good governement should not give the people what they want, but what they need.
Give the people what they want. -
You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
I’m sure you do think it’s disingenuous. Also, I think you’ve made an assumption on my thoughts about Labour rather than take on board what I’ve said in the past.
AaronTurner wrote:
Just to reiterate, I think this post is extremely disingenuous. The reason I’m posting stuff in this thread - the politics thread - is to demonstrate the issue Labour have with antisemtism.
Like I said, I’m really not that bothered by what one person said on the internet. I wouldn’t be surprised if you posted links to people being racist in any number of ways.
The irony here is that the main reason I do it is to persuade people specifically like you. Not to preach to the choir for those that already see it.
The more of these I post, the more I hope that you’ll concede that it is actually a specific (not common or garden racist hate but specifically related to imperialistic conspiracy), and widespread within leadership positions in the party (individuals like this).
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You-can-call-me-kal 22,328 posts
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Registered 15 years agoWhat do you mean? Like what.. -
nickthegun 84,548 posts
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Registered 15 years agoHeh, the Tories are planning on solving the non-existant problem of voter fraud with bringing in photographic ID checks.
I mean, Christ, at least pretend like you aren't following Evil Right Winging For Dummies page by page. -
DanoFNG 369 posts
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Registered 15 years agohttps://twitter.com/HMRadioUK/status/1183764320955654144?s=20
Sincerely hope the September polls predicting a tory wipe out in Scotland hold true. -
Armoured_Bear 29,484 posts
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Registered 9 years agoDanoFNG wrote:
Doesn't matter that much, does it? The cunts will still be in charge overall.
https://twitter.com/HMRadioUK/status/1183764320955654144?s=20
Sincerely hope the September polls predicting a tory wipe out in Scotland hold true. -
Psychotext 69,203 posts
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Registered 15 years agonickthegun wrote:
Fairly likely they'll lose that vote though. At least until they win the next election anyway.
Heh, the Tories are planning on solving the non-existant problem of voter fraud with bringing in photographic ID checks.
I mean, Christ, at least pretend like you aren't following Evil Right Winging For Dummies page by page. -
Dougs 97,467 posts
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Registered 18 years agoIn theory, they should lose them all. Very difficult to control legislation without a majority. Who knows what amendments will get through that the government doesn't want. -
dsmx 8,609 posts
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Registered 16 years agoIf the Tories want to bring in a voter ID fair enough but I'll bet when they see the price tag of setting it up they won't do it. -
Saul_Iscariot 4,060 posts
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Registered 8 years agoWhatever happened to those nice identity cards that were once proposed? -
Sharz 2,037 posts
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Registered 6 years agoThe thing with Id cards is that if everyone has easy access to one then it isn't a problem. The tories know full well that not everyone has a driving license or passport, not only cost involved but also puts a barrier in place.
If we already had a national id card system then would be a non issue. -
nickthegun 84,548 posts
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Registered 15 years agoSaul_Iscariot wrote:
Labour pitched them at the height of their surveillance state period, so everyone said 'go fuck yourselves'
Whatever happened to those nice identity cards that were once proposed? -
Dougs 97,467 posts
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Registered 18 years agoLeast of the surveillance concerns given CCTV, facial recognition etc now. -
Frogofdoom 17,223 posts
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Registered 9 years agoI never really had an issue with a DNA database or ID cards tbh. I understand why people do but I feel the pro's outweigh the cons. -
Dougs 97,467 posts
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Registered 18 years agoIt's entirely disenfranchising and means the poor and minorities are disproportionately hit. It doesn't bother me personally as I'm a law-abiding middle aged white man but I can see young black lads being absolutely shafted. -
Decks 28,427 posts
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Registered 5 years agoYou been reading my pornhub search history? -
smoothpete 37,411 posts
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Registered 17 years agoHa! -
Dougs 97,467 posts
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Registered 18 years agoI'm not here to judge, whatever floats your boat -
mothercruncher 18,727 posts
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Registered 14 years agoIt’s not about floating Dougs, it’s about plunging. -
RichDC 9,011 posts
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Registered 16 years agoIt's just so transparent as another of Johnson's attempts to appeal to the racist gammons. The sort who genuinely believe that BAME Labour MPs only get elected because of voter fraud and 'they're only voting for one of their own' etc, along with 'sure there's only been a couple of proven instances of voter fraud at the booths but it's all the ones you don't know about that are the problem.'
Luckily there's no possibility of Johnson getting this through before the next election. -
ResidentKnievel 7,477 posts
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simpleexplodingmaybe 16,076 posts
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Registered 5 years agoThey really are taking all the sleaziest lessons from the Republican Party -
nickthegun 84,548 posts
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Registered 15 years agoIronically (and completely anecdotally) none of the pensioners I know can drive or have a passport. -
Psychotext 69,203 posts
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Registered 15 years agonickthegun wrote:
They automatically get a free bus pass though...
Ironically (and completely anecdotally) none of the pensioners I know can drive or have a passport. -
TheSaint 20,283 posts
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Registered 15 years agoFor me, I'd say it's a pretty 50/50 split between those with no driving licence/passport and those who spend their whole lives jetting around the world or on cruises.
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simpleexplodingmaybe 16,076 posts
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Registered 5 years agonickthegun wrote:
I bet the polling station staff would let a lovely old (white) biddy off a lot more often than they would someone younger (or less white)
Ironically (and completely anecdotally) none of the pensioners I know can drive or have a passport. -
THFourteen 53,863 posts
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Registered 16 years agoDgzter wrote:
It's always been like this, just people haven't really noticed. That's why I laugh at how much energy gets expended on discussing politics, when ultimately it serves no more purpose than your average students union.
Frogofdoom wrote:
Yup. It's absolutely nauseating. Just bluff, bluster, empty rhetoric and meaningless platitudes.
It does my fucking head in, parliament is basically just a school playground since he got in. It's always been shit but this is next level now. -
THFourteen wrote:
https://gph.is/OxP9vO
Dgzter wrote:
It's always been like this, just people haven't really noticed. That's why I laugh at how much energy gets expended on discussing politics, when ultimately it serves no more purpose than your average students union.
Frogofdoom wrote:
Yup. It's absolutely nauseating. Just bluff, bluster, empty rhetoric and meaningless platitudes.
It does my fucking head in, parliament is basically just a school playground since he got in. It's always been shit but this is next level now.
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