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Anyone who thinks Brexit will become less irrelevant after we leave really hasn't got a clue. The withdrawal is the easiest part. What comes next is going to be engaging the government for the next could of decades. As the LDs saw... when you get tagged with something by voters, they become very unforgiving. |
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FWB 56,369 posts
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Darth_Flibble 5,592 posts
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Registered 17 years agoH1ggyLTD wrote:
Bit early for your third can of lead paint?
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TheSaint 20,950 posts
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Registered 16 years agoIt's telling that the kind of people who seem to think everyone will have forgotten Brexit on the 1st April are usually the first to call Blair a war criminal almost twenty years after the Iraq war. -
brexit will move votes for the next thirty years - see eg NAFTA - came into force in the early 90s - moving votes in the last US election. however it won’t be the determining issue - see eg the iraq war and the 2005 GE -
JoelStinty 9,530 posts
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Registered 8 years agothe-cozen-show wrote:
Every issue is going to be linked back to Brexit, it is the defining issue of a generation.
brexit will move votes for the next thirty years - see eg NAFTA - came into force in the early 90s - moving votes in the last US election. however it won’t be the determining issue - see eg the iraq war and the 2005 GE -
JamboWayOh 25,236 posts
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Registered 8 years agoYeah, I don’t think Iraq had as much as an economic and social effect as Brexit will do to British society. -
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Registered 8 years agoChuka Umunna, Luciana Berger, Chris Leslie, Angela Smith, Mike Gapes, Gavin Shuker and Ann Coffey are the Mp's that have resigned. -
FWB 56,369 posts
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Registered 20 years agoJamboWayOh wrote:
It's not even a close contest; certainly in terms of the direct impact on the British public.
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If you're elected on the basis of a party manifesto you should surely have to hold a by-election if you abandon those principles? -
FWB 56,369 posts
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Registered 20 years agoJambajuice wrote:
Theoretically.
If you're elected on the basis of a party manifesto you should surely have to hold a by-election if you abandon those principles? -
TheSaint 20,950 posts
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Registered 16 years agoJambajuice wrote:
I don't seem to remember them having a by-election in Islington every time Corbyn voted against his party.
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FWB 56,369 posts
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Registered 20 years agoTheSaint wrote:
Point made but not quite the same as resigning from the party.
Jambajuice wrote:
I don't seem to remember them having a by-election in Islington every time Corbyn voted against his party.
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challenge_hanukkah 14,394 posts
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Registered 8 years ago7 MPs have left the labour party.
Anyone got a link to the Rachel Swindon tweet calling them cunts and hoping they all drown on Tory semen? -
disusedgenius 10,677 posts
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Registered 14 years agoJambajuice wrote:
It kinda depends on whether you agreed with the manifesto in the first place though. It's not like parties mind abandoning the principles if needs must so I don't see why individuals are more accountable. Especially when being a party rebel is a perfectly legitimate thing to do (and is even a valid road to leadership!).
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Frogofdoom 17,973 posts
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Frogofdoom 17,973 posts
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Registered 9 years agoFine then find it yourself! -
challenge_hanukkah 14,394 posts
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Registered 8 years agoFrogofdoom wrote:
Fine then find it yourself!.gif)
She's a real charmer. -
challenge_hanukkah 14,394 posts
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Registered 8 years agoPickledRight wrote:
This is why nothing ever changes.
Well they basically were tories - relentlessly trying to sabbotage their own parties for years, and actually doing it now in a final act of self centred spite. Tory rule for everyone for ever - yay.
"You'd best vote for people who are cunts and who you don't agree with because they're marginally better than the other cunts"
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FWB 56,369 posts
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Registered 20 years agoThey're not Tories, but you keep that narrative up. It's going to win so many voters over. -
sport 17,064 posts
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Registered 16 years agoWell it looks like I finally have a voice. -
They're not Tories but they're doing the best to secure power for the Tories. -
FWB 56,369 posts
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Registered 20 years agoCorybn wasn't getting into power with them, so not really.
They get moaned at for undermining the party (something JC never ever ever did, right) and then when they finally decide they can't be part of it and leave, get labelled traitors.
They're no fools... they know that this is quite a gamble for them and could well see them losing their seats. Regardless of what you think of their politics, it is the right thing to do and quite brave. -
challenge_hanukkah 14,394 posts
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Registered 8 years agoDO NOT QUESTION DER WURD OF DER FÜHRER! -
challenge_hanukkah 14,394 posts
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Registered 8 years agoFWB wrote:
QFT
Corybn wasn't getting into power with them, so not really.
They get moaned at for undermining the party (something JC never ever ever did, right) and then when they finally decide they can't be part of it and leave, get labelled traitors.
They're no fools... they know that this is quite a gamble for them and could well see them losing their seats. Regardless of what you think of their politics, it is the right thing to do and quite brave. -
the PFI group’s website appears to have keeled over, presumably from the weight of rubberneckers desperate to clown them online politically homeless people desperate to set the controls for the heart of the centrism -
brokenkey 11,128 posts
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Registered 20 years agoJambajuice wrote:
2 things
If you're elected on the basis of a party manifesto you should surely have to hold a by-election if you abandon those principles?
1) you're voting for the MP, not the party. If the facts change, wouldn't you want your MP's opinion to change too?
2) Ken Clarke pointed out that the Tory Manifesto from the last election contains stuff that was dropped as policy in less than a week (funding care for the elderly). Don't imagine the manifesto as some kind of unbreakable tablet of stone. -
https://twitter.com/TheIndGroup
Expect the cultists to bombard that account for the immediate future, despite getting what they claimed they wanted.
Edited by FWB at 10:53:19 18-02-2019
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