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  • Dougs 13 Feb 2020 10:21:01 94,678 posts
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    AG gone too. Minutes before AG Questions
  • IRWATWO 13 Feb 2020 10:45:50 711 posts
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    Leadsom probably won't mind, now Brexit is done her tax dodging family can continue to run their companies through Jersey Caymans etc, and pay cock all. Brexit has preserved the UKs status as biggest tax evading regime on the planet, well done us -

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/13/eu-to-put-cayman-islands-on-tax-haven-blacklist
  • IRWATWO 13 Feb 2020 10:48:55 711 posts
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    Williamson will keep his job I think, he would never have been brought back in the first place if he wasn't the sort of lickspittle Johnson was after.

    He'a basically a 10 year old in a Govt ministers body. 'It wasn't me sir!'. Also check out his walk, Partridge on the way to the mini mart, that sort of child like distractedness, wrapped around the vicious nastiness of a Mail reader.
  • RobAnybody 13 Feb 2020 10:49:03 2,187 posts
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    Good to hear that Leadsome and McVey are out, if only Bojo could make it a 'threesome' and also get rid of Patel .....
  • RobAnybody 13 Feb 2020 10:49:27 2,187 posts
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    Cox is out I see.
  • Load_2.0 13 Feb 2020 10:51:34 31,893 posts
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    TheSaint wrote:
    Load_2.0 wrote:
    TheSaint wrote:
    Apparently Johnson has been caught lying again. This time about who paid £15k for the villa he stayed in at Christmas.

    https://twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1227717453549047811?s=21
    None of it matters anymore. They'll be zero consequences.

    Trump is now the bar that behaviour is judged by.

    If the people of the UK and US want to be ruled by incompetent buffoons so be it.
    I'm not so sure. One of the only scandals that really gained traction over recent years was around expenses.

    It's also quite interesting that the Mail have the knives out for him already.
    We can hope!
  • Load_2.0 13 Feb 2020 10:51:57 31,893 posts
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    RobAnybody wrote:
    Good to hear that Leadsome and McVey are out, if only Bojo could make it a 'threesome' and also get rid of Patel .....
    Yeah. Some good news at last!
  • RobAnybody 13 Feb 2020 10:55:16 2,187 posts
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    I wonder if the sacked people will be replaced by even worse choices?

    When do we get to learn of the replacements?
  • X201 13 Feb 2020 11:13:10 20,702 posts
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    Soon
  • X201 13 Feb 2020 11:15:54 20,702 posts
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    Apparently the theme of the reshuffle is that anyone who stood up to Johnson in cabinet has got the boot

    "the cull of the tall poppies" as Tom Newton-Dunn has called it
  • Armoured_Bear 13 Feb 2020 11:17:55 28,871 posts
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    RobAnybody wrote:
    I wonder if the sacked people will be replaced by even worse choices?

    When do we get to learn of the replacements?
    Almost certainly , hard to imagine worse than Leadsom though
  • Dougs 13 Feb 2020 11:55:23 94,678 posts
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    Javid has resigned
  • X201 13 Feb 2020 11:55:48 20,702 posts
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    Javid has resigned

    Was asked to stay as Chancellor on condition he sacked his advisors. He refused and resigned.
  • elstoof 13 Feb 2020 12:10:26 25,870 posts
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    A real man of principle eh
  • JoelStinty 13 Feb 2020 12:11:54 8,927 posts
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    Rare spotted backbone in Tory party discovered
  • chopsen 13 Feb 2020 12:13:33 21,045 posts
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    OoooOOOOoooh. That is a suprise.
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 13 Feb 2020 12:15:02 25,648 posts
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    Maybe they are all bloody good eggs after all.
  • elstoof 13 Feb 2020 12:15:38 25,870 posts
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    JoelStinty wrote:
    Rare spotted backbone in Tory party discovered
    Let’s not get carried away, he chose the option that made him personally look less of a pussy
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 13 Feb 2020 12:17:42 13,999 posts
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    It’ll be interesting to see what kind of people Cummings has in mind to fill these roles

    One of the biggest risks to any government is failure to renew itself as the first choice top talents are whittled away by retirement, resignation or sackings. We’re a decade in now and you’d expect the rot to have taken hold by now but (possibly because Johnson as PM is “fresh” and partly because there’s been little real opposition of note) they might get away with a generational deck clearing here.
  • nickthegun 13 Feb 2020 12:18:11 82,363 posts
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    Would be interesting to see if Boris goes in Cummings first cabinet shuffle.
  • elstoof 13 Feb 2020 12:18:44 25,870 posts
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    When has there been any “top talent” in the cabinet over the last decade
  • Frogofdoom 13 Feb 2020 12:19:40 16,609 posts
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    Budget is in 4 weeks as well.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 13 Feb 2020 12:20:42 13,999 posts
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    elstoof wrote:
    When has there been any “top talent” in the cabinet over the last decade
    It’s all relative of course but look at the Foreign Office its gone from Hague to Johnson to Raab

    Tell me that isn’t a plummet in ability and statesmanship
  • askew 13 Feb 2020 12:21:08 21,564 posts
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    But think about all the freaks and unknowns on the backbenches who get a shot at being a big time charlie now.

    A bonus of cabinet members actually sticking around for longer than six months is that they can actually oversee projects and get a handle on what might be required of them, or figure out how to manipulate the advisors and civil servants around them.
  • nickthegun 13 Feb 2020 12:21:57 82,363 posts
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    Ability to tie their own shoelaces
  • RichDC 13 Feb 2020 12:22:06 8,877 posts
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    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    It’ll be interesting to see what kind of people Cummings has in mind to fill these roles
    His only requirement is that they do exactly what he says. He's the one running things now.
  • chopsen 13 Feb 2020 12:23:12 21,045 posts
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    Felt that Javid was in an unwinnable position anyway. Tories have promised to not raise taxes, increase spending and Make Brexit a Success (TM). Choose two.

    At some point he will either fail to commit enough spending to secure popularity in the newly Torified areas, or raise taxes affecting some other traditional tory support base (such as the much hinted at clawback of pensions tax relief). Massive tantrums either way.

    This might just be a convenient time to go that makes him look principled.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 13 Feb 2020 12:43:35 13,999 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    Would be interesting to see if Boris goes in Cummings first cabinet shuffle.
    Few people have gotten their money’s worth out of something like Cummings with his House of Cards boxset
  • Load_2.0 13 Feb 2020 12:44:44 31,893 posts
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    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    elstoof wrote:
    When has there been any “top talent” in the cabinet over the last decade
    It’s all relative of course but look at the Foreign Office its gone from Hague to Johnson to Raab

    Tell me that isn’t a plummet in ability and statesmanship
    That's a prime example.

    Rishikesh Sunak seems like a bright cookie for Chancellor. Though having a billionaire heir always makes me a bit nervous and there is a real lack of experience.
  • Load_2.0 13 Feb 2020 12:46:26 31,893 posts
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    Well at least we are no longer being rules over by unelected bureaucrats!

    Oh wait...
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