Following UK Politics Thread Page 723

  • Armoured_Bear 3 Sep 2020 13:06:56 29,027 posts
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    Dgzter wrote:
    Certainly sobering to hear Sturgeon suggest the R-value of the virus may well be at c.1.4. I wonder if we'll see such a candid admission by the UK gov, but I guess it's possible a stiff upper lip and a few choruses of Rule Britannia will have suppressed it down south.

    Also, just lol at the absolute state of the cretins crying about Glasgow being shown preferential treatment in comparison to Aberdeen. Jesus wept.
    Sturgeon explained very clearly and in detail, why the measures are different in each city. Everything is fucked nowadays with internet tribal bullshit, to most outsiders she's doing a very good job but everything she posts on twitter, no matter how balanced and smart, will be followed by a load of angry tweets from unionists for whom, she is the devil incarnate, no matter what.
  • Dgzter 3 Sep 2020 13:11:14 3,310 posts
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    Yup, pretty much. Also the Aberdeen Tory councillors just being utter weapons. Sad state of affairs.

    Of course, these people would be utterly incapable of identifying a single politician in the entirety of the UK (not just Scotland) whom they think would be more effective at leading the country.

    Edited by Dgzter at 13:11:35 03-09-2020
  • JamboWayOh 3 Sep 2020 13:31:01 20,750 posts
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    Dgzter wrote:
    Have we done this: https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/1301431034995789824?s=20 ?

    The comments, as you can imagine, are just lovely. Such fine people.
    Ahhh, yes the old 'we should could concentrate on the homeless VETERANS in our country first'. From the same people who probably walk past and ignore a homeless person on the street or get a petition to remove them as making an eyesore.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 3 Sep 2020 13:32:56 14,600 posts
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    JamboWayOh wrote:
    Dgzter wrote:
    Have we done this: https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/1301431034995789824?s=20 ?

    The comments, as you can imagine, are just lovely. Such fine people.
    Ahhh, yes the old 'we should could concentrate on the homeless VETERANS in our country first'. From the same people who probably walk past and ignore a homeless person on the street or get a petition to remove them as making an eyesore.
    And the same who have been going “well why don’t you let them live in your house then?” every previous time he’s expressed any concern about those dying in the Channel
  • JamboWayOh 3 Sep 2020 13:37:51 20,750 posts
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    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    JamboWayOh wrote:
    Dgzter wrote:
    Have we done this: https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/1301431034995789824?s=20 ?

    The comments, as you can imagine, are just lovely. Such fine people.
    Ahhh, yes the old 'we should could concentrate on the homeless VETERANS in our country first'. From the same people who probably walk past and ignore a homeless person on the street or get a petition to remove them as making an eyesore.
    And the same who have been going “well why don’t you let them live in your house then?” every previous time he’s expressed any concern about those dying in the Channel
    It's almost as if their gardens are full of men made from straw.
  • DaM 3 Sep 2020 15:44:25 17,469 posts
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    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    Dgzter wrote:
    Certainly sobering to hear Sturgeon suggest the R-value of the virus may well be at c.1.4. I wonder if we'll see such a candid admission by the UK gov, but I guess it's possible a stiff upper lip and a few choruses of Rule Britannia will have suppressed it down south.

    Also, just lol at the absolute state of the cretins crying about Glasgow being shown preferential treatment in comparison to Aberdeen. Jesus wept.
    Sturgeon explained very clearly and in detail, why the measures are different in each city. Everything is fucked nowadays with internet tribal bullshit, to most outsiders she's doing a very good job but everything she posts on twitter, no matter how balanced and smart, will be followed by a load of angry tweets from unionists for whom, she is the devil incarnate, no matter what.
    Reading between the lines, I wonder if a lot of the Glasgow/ER/WD cases have been in the Asian communities? They said today it wasn't just young people having mad parties, and they say there's no reason to close pubs....so we have large Asian communities, who do have large extended families, love to have big parties but don't often go to the pub!

    Unfortunately they can't say that due to knuckledragging racists, as these people are at higher risk. So hopefully not true.
  • Technoishmatt 3 Sep 2020 16:18:37 4,499 posts
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    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/sep/03/bbc-boss-tim-davie-to-crack-down-on-staff-posting-views-on-social-media

    Does thess mean that somebody like Andrew Neil, chairman of right wing spectator couldnt front up a program in future?
  • Dougs 3 Sep 2020 16:38:58 95,479 posts
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    DaM wrote:


    Reading between the lines, I wonder if a lot of the Glasgow/ER/WD cases have been in the Asian communities? They said today it wasn't just young people having mad parties, and they say there's no reason to close pubs....so we have large Asian communities, who do have large extended families, love to have big parties but don't often go to the pub!

    Unfortunately they can't say that due to knuckledragging racists, as these people are at higher risk. So hopefully not true.
    I don't think it's either/or, it's both, judging by what's happened down here in the NW. Lots or big families gathering and not social distancing, but also younger folk going out - depending on the area.
  • RGeefe 3 Sep 2020 17:05:51 1,311 posts
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    It seems to be both. I know the initial concerns around Asian areas were multiple factors, such as lifestyle and likelihood of being in people-facing roles. But unis are about to start again and I'm fairly sure Glasgow has a few students.

    Basically - freshers' week is going to be fucking hell.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 3 Sep 2020 17:40:30 14,600 posts
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    Technoishmatt wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/sep/03/bbc-boss-tim-davie-to-crack-down-on-staff-posting-views-on-social-media

    Does thess mean that somebody like Andrew Neil, chairman of right wing spectator couldnt front up a program in future?
    Don’t be silly
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 3 Sep 2020 18:00:40 14,600 posts
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    On Abbott representing the UK

    https://twitter.com/KayBurley/status/1301406437458038784?s=20
  • Dougs 3 Sep 2020 18:09:08 95,479 posts
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    https://mobile.twitter.com/JeffStelling/status/1301273175922216960
  • fontgeeksogood 3 Sep 2020 18:11:26 10,631 posts
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    Has anyone reached out to Kammy
  • RGeefe 3 Sep 2020 18:23:20 1,311 posts
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    To be fair, it's good to see Jeff admit a mistake.
    This is one of the issues that's dogged BOTH sides for a while - admitting you've got things wrong, rather than continuing to charge head-first into the wall.
  • Dougs 3 Sep 2020 18:23:45 95,479 posts
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    Agreed

    Edited by Dougs at 18:23:50 03-09-2020
  • IMO 3 Sep 2020 19:14:01 7,349 posts
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    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    On Abbott representing the UK

    https://twitter.com/KayBurley/status/1301406437458038784?s=20
    I particularly like how he didn't fall into the trap first time round but then just dove right in head-first at the second time of asking.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 3 Sep 2020 19:27:39 14,600 posts
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    IMO wrote:
    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    On Abbott representing the UK

    https://twitter.com/KayBurley/status/1301406437458038784?s=20
    I particularly like how he didn't fall into the trap first time round but then just dove right in head-first at the second time of asking.
    Burley has been on a real roll recently and the ministers are just lining up to take the next hit
  • RGeefe 4 Sep 2020 07:43:51 1,311 posts
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    Schapps wiggling about trying to justify HS2 this morning when faced with the real possibility it'll be redundant before it's even open.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 4 Sep 2020 08:00:53 14,600 posts
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    Billions to shave seconds off London-Birmingham and to destroy ancient woodland and rare eco-systems. Faster better trains are a good thing but this was never the right project.

    Governments love a Big Project but if they really wanted to make a difference to people’s lives they should’ve invested the money in updating bus services and regional rail
  • IMO 4 Sep 2020 08:14:10 7,349 posts
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    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    Billions to shave seconds off London-Birmingham and to destroy ancient woodland and rare eco-systems. Faster better trains are a good thing but this was never the right project.

    Governments love a Big Project but if they really wanted to make a difference to people’s lives they should’ve invested the money in updating bus services and regional rail
    I think I've spotted where you've gone wrong.
  • TheSaint 4 Sep 2020 09:16:52 19,883 posts
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    Grant Shapps caught by in some kind of scandal around where is private jet is registered.

    Truly a problem we can all relate to.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 4 Sep 2020 09:26:55 14,600 posts
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    TheSaint wrote:
    Grant Shapps caught by in some kind of scandal around where is private jet is registered.

    Truly a problem we can all relate to.
    I don’t know how he still manages to stay in government (I do really but he shouldn’t)
  • You-can-call-me-kal 4 Sep 2020 09:27:20 20,707 posts
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    HS2 is a legacy from the last Labour government. Not that it really changes anything, and the world is quite different now to then, but yeah.
  • Dgzter 4 Sep 2020 09:29:47 3,310 posts
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    lol Ian Murray: https://twitter.com/patrickkmaguire/status/1301633291615907842?s=20
  • Dougs 4 Sep 2020 09:34:24 95,479 posts
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    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    HS2 is a legacy from the last Labour government. Not that it really changes anything, and the world is quite different now to then, but yeah.
    Whilst this is true, the Coalition could easily have binned it off without much impact.
  • General_Martok 4 Sep 2020 09:37:25 1,372 posts
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    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    HS2 is a legacy from the last Labour government. Not that it really changes anything, and the world is quite different now to then, but yeah.
    The conservatives are are quite happy to blame Labour for loads of policies so I don't know why they don't just back out of this and blame Labour again.

    Unless... their mates are making money out of this?
  • RGeefe 4 Sep 2020 10:03:21 1,311 posts
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    Same as tuition fees, really.

    I wouldn't call myself left-leaning, in any sense, mostly centrist but it's hard to not look at the past 40-odd years and see any major difference in the values of politicians we've had.

    Tuition fees, HS2 and various other bits - all come through Labour 97 and, as has been pointed out, Coalition and Tories had plenty of opportunities to scrap them.
  • Dougs 4 Sep 2020 10:04:56 95,479 posts
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    And of course, we are now coming full circle with the current Govt implementing parts of Corbyn's Manifesto!
  • The12thMonkey 4 Sep 2020 16:51:17 567 posts
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    Marina Hyde on it today.

    Particularly like the little video game trailer reference in there.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 4 Sep 2020 18:31:07 14,600 posts
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    Tony Abbott confirmed as we slide evermore into being a parody of a nation
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