UK Politics Thread Page 78

  • askew 11 Apr 2019 11:32:05 19,093 posts
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    Graxlar_v3 wrote:
    Al ot of youtube comments seem to be pro Assange.

    That surprises me a little bit.
    He's the man of the neck-bearded incel.
  • JamboWayOh 11 Apr 2019 11:35:30 13,158 posts
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    askew wrote:
    Graxlar_v3 wrote:
    Al ot of youtube comments seem to be pro Assange.

    That surprises me a little bit.
    He's the man of the neck-bearded incel.
    This.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 11 Apr 2019 11:36:20 15,733 posts
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    https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/12307023966240768
  • d_h1234 11 Apr 2019 11:40:25 135 posts
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    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/12307023966240768
    I don't understand why so many people seem to be pinning this on USA. Trump would give this guy a position in his cabinet, not prosecute him.

    The UK wouldn't be far off that either, I'm guessing quite a few parties would love to have Assange as a 'consultant'.

    edit: I'm an idiot, just realised this is from 2010. :(

    Edited by d_h1234 at 11:42:20 11-04-2019
  • Dougs 11 Apr 2019 11:41:00 89,138 posts
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    Ah, a tweet for every occasion
  • Deleted user 11 April 2019 11:44:37
    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/12307023966240768
    That was from 2010 when Assange's leaks showed U.S gunships shooting journalists and built up to the events which triggered the Arab Spring.

    At that point Assange megalomannia and his loose morals in the protection of his sources had not been revealed.
  • RyanDS 11 Apr 2019 11:45:13 12,745 posts
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    Yeah, the Assange thing I wouldn't pull up quotes fromCorbyn ages ago as relevant.

    Much like Corbyn I really supported him at the start until he revealed his true self. I dislike pillorying people for support from 10 years ago in different circumstances. Hell, I am sure you can find loads of posts of me supporting Corbyn before he revealed himself to be the vile little UKIP supporter he is, that doesn't make me a hippocrate, instead it means my views have changed over the years as the facts have changed and become apparent.
  • nickthegun 11 Apr 2019 11:48:54 77,813 posts
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    Assange occupies this weird space between wikileaks actually being quite an important thing for democracy and allowing it to then be used for its most base, undemocratic purposes.

    It's a bit like Tesla in that the idea is important, it's just a shame the person who had it is a complete twat.

    Also, the pictures of him getting dragged out of the embassy are amazing. Seven years of exile ending in such a dignified manner.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 11 Apr 2019 11:50:09 15,733 posts
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    It's a cheap shot admittedly, but given certain other poster's propensity to discredit people's moral authority based on things they said or did in the past, I couldn't resist.

    That said, I think Corbyn's real achilles heel is his inability to self-reflect and address his own behaviour in the past.
  • BigOrkWaaagh 11 Apr 2019 11:52:35 8,668 posts
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    Why have they arrested Gandalf?
  • Mola_Ram 11 Apr 2019 11:55:34 20,094 posts
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    He's not still being done for the sexual assault thing, is he? Is it just a case of the Americans wanting him now?
  • disusedgenius 11 Apr 2019 11:56:26 9,785 posts
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    Arrested for not appearing in court, so (currently) just a UK thing.
  • Mola_Ram 11 Apr 2019 11:58:02 20,094 posts
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    BigOrkWaaagh wrote:
    Why have they arrested Gandalf?
    He's more of a Geralt.

  • Deleted user 11 April 2019 11:59:04
    Mola_Ram wrote:
    He's not still being done for the sexual assault thing, is he? Is it just a case of the Americans wanting him now?
    I think the statue of limitations or whatever the local equivalent Sweden has is called has expired on that offence.

    He's going to be sent to some quiet English prison for a few months whilst the US and UK hash out the terms of his sale.
  • RyanDS 11 Apr 2019 12:04:05 12,745 posts
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    whatfruitlivesagain wrote:
    Mola_Ram wrote:
    He's not still being done for the sexual assault thing, is he? Is it just a case of the Americans wanting him now?
    I think the statue of limitations or whatever the local equivalent Sweden has is called has expired on that offence.

    He's going to be sent to some quiet English prison for a few months whilst the US and UK hash out the terms of his sale.
    Expires next year, and they have just announced they are looking to reopen.
  • Graxlar_v3 11 Apr 2019 12:17:27 6,725 posts
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    All this because he refused to clean his cat's litter lol.
  • JamboWayOh 11 Apr 2019 12:24:15 13,158 posts
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    Ol Pam Anderson has had her say. I still find it bizarre that she's connected to Assange in some way.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/pamfoundation/status/1116293898664595456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
  • JoelStinty 11 Apr 2019 13:12:09 7,846 posts
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    Now been ‘further arrested’ on behalf of the United States in relation to a extradition warrant

    Foreign minister; saying the uk does not extradite to countries whete they face the death penalty

    Edited by JoelStinty at 13:13:24 11-04-2019
  • challenge_hanukkah 11 Apr 2019 13:15:33 10,727 posts
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    I think they just promised to jail him for 475 years. Javid was heard to be inconsolable about him not facing the gas chamber.
  • JamboWayOh 11 Apr 2019 13:18:43 13,158 posts
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    JoelStinty wrote:
    Now been ‘further arrested’ on behalf of the United States in relation to a extradition warrant

    Foreign minister; saying the uk does not extradite to countries whete they face the death penalty
    No, it just puts them on a military plane with a bag over their head to places where they get tortured endlessly. But importantly, THEY DON'T DIE.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 11 Apr 2019 14:32:55 10,242 posts
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    whatfruitlivesagain wrote:
    Mola_Ram wrote:
    He's not still being done for the sexual assault thing, is he? Is it just a case of the Americans wanting him now?
    I think the statue of limitations or whatever the local equivalent Sweden has is called has expired on that offence.
    and all his incel fanboys (+ George Galloway) probably think that constitutes vindication for him and proof of his innocence.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 11 Apr 2019 14:39:12 10,242 posts
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    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/12307023966240768
    This is an old one but the usual suspects are giving it "he might be a probable rapist but he attacked the US so he's our probable rapist and therefore should be set free"
  • DJCopa 11 Apr 2019 14:59:36 1,925 posts
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    Depends what you think he's a wrong 'un for, I guess?
  • You-can-call-me-kal 11 Apr 2019 16:00:21 15,733 posts
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    H1ggyLTD wrote:
    Can you think he's a wrong un and that this is still bad?
    Why do you think it's bad?

    There's a bit of a false narrative going round certain internet circles around the rape charges being dropped. Yes, they were dropped, but only because the Swedish prosecutors had given up because they couldn't get to Assange. They have stated once he is extradited they will resume prosecution.

    So yeah, why is it so bad?
  • TheSaint 11 Apr 2019 16:25:31 18,574 posts
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    You seem to be forgetting that he helped get Trump elected. He'll disappear to some luxury penthouse somewhere.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 11 Apr 2019 16:30:00 15,733 posts
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    Hmmm. It’s a complicated one. I mean, he’s going to go to jail, not disappear, but I would much prefer him to be extradited to Sweden to go to jail for rape than to be extradited to American to go to jail for whistleblowing. Although he did put a lot of innocent lives at risk with his whistleblowing, so that too is complex.

    Enjoying the break-neck u-turn though from whistleblowing is awful to whistleblowing is amazing depending on whether it comes from inside the Labour Party or not.
  • disusedgenius 11 Apr 2019 16:43:31 9,785 posts
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    I'd don't find it too complex to be against sending people to the 'care' of the US justice system. Doubly so with this kind of thing, same as that hacker guy from a few years ago.
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