UK Politics Thread Page 80

  • challenge_hanukkah 13 Apr 2019 08:52:14 10,264 posts
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    Grubby.

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/wikileaks-medical-files-rape-victims-saudi-arabia-homosexuality-arrest-a7206901.html%3famp
  • You-can-call-me-kal 13 Apr 2019 10:23:01 14,730 posts
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    So whatís the issue?
  • You-can-call-me-kal 13 Apr 2019 10:24:30 14,730 posts
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    And strictly speaking he was expelled from the party. Unusual I know...
  • You-can-call-me-kal 13 Apr 2019 10:29:45 14,730 posts
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    What.

    Is.


    Your.



    Issue.




    ?
  • You-can-call-me-kal 13 Apr 2019 10:35:40 14,730 posts
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    It really isnít. I genuinely donít understand what point youíre making.

    It seems to me yet again youíre following the Twitter Corbynites by pointing out the Woodcock thing (hive mind in full effect this morning) but theyíre protesting Assange being extradited to Sweden because itís all part of the some global conspiracy to silence him.

    Youíre in favour of him being extradited to Sweden though, so again, whatís your issue?
  • You-can-call-me-kal 13 Apr 2019 10:40:47 14,730 posts
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    So you donít agree with Corbyn about innocent until proven guilty? Or does that only apply to Assange?
  • You-can-call-me-kal 13 Apr 2019 10:44:00 14,730 posts
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    Do you need Ash Sarkar to confirm whether this is an instance where nuanced thinking can be applied or not?
  • You-can-call-me-kal 13 Apr 2019 10:56:51 14,730 posts
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    But the letter he signed is about his extradition to Sweden. So thatís moot.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 13 Apr 2019 10:59:31 14,730 posts
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    And itís not my attempt to make you look like a rape apologist. Iím again suggesting youíve dived into copying opinions from Twitter without considering what point youíre actually making.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 13 Apr 2019 11:07:25 14,730 posts
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    H1ggyLTD wrote:
    Can you think he's a wrong un and that this is still bad?
    Hereís you very correctly pointing out the nuance.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 13 Apr 2019 11:09:32 14,730 posts
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    And my assumption about you not supporting extradition to Sweden was based on your post about Woodcock. Youíve now clarified you, like Woodcock, are in favour of extradition to Sweden.

    So again, what is the issue here?

    If you actually posted proper opinions instead of total non sequiturs then we wouldnít have to infer them.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 13 Apr 2019 11:10:29 14,730 posts
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    H1ggyLTD wrote:
    America being the bad.

    Obviously that post isn't 'i think he's a wrong un but him facing justice for that is bad'.

    You know that.
    Ugh, thatís not what Iím saying.

    How about again, you explain your view? It would make discussion so much easier.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 13 Apr 2019 11:24:03 9,655 posts
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    I can't decide whether it's genuine moral relativism or just not giving a shit outside of trying to own someone amongst the tribalist divisions
  • mothercruncher 13 Apr 2019 11:28:01 16,040 posts
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    Bah, cheap thoughtless internet points. The fact that no-one here can respect him anymore and therefore care about said score seems to escape him.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 14 Apr 2019 12:45:24 14,730 posts
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    More leaks showing privately Corbyn acknowledges Labour is ignoring antisemetism, but publicly he denies its existence and blames Jews for making it up.

    Also whistleblowing is now bad again after a week of claiming itís crucially important.
  • Load_2.0 14 Apr 2019 13:16:18 28,904 posts
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    The Margaret Hodge secret taping?

    I'm in two minds. It definitely shows it is being handled very poorly and highlights his inability to deal with the issue but on the other hand it shows it is something he is concerned about as opposed to indifference/support.

    Also secretly taking your boss should get you sacked immediately.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 14 Apr 2019 13:25:51 14,730 posts
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    As per my post, publicly denying the scale of the issue whilst privately acknowledging it, and allowing/encouraging your media outlets and party members to perpetuate a smear/witch-hunt narrative is disgraceful.

    If he is concerned itís pretty clear at this point itís only about reputational damage.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 14 Apr 2019 17:14:40 9,655 posts
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    I can't remember who said it but I'd agree with the sentiment that they don't care about antisemitism when it affected Jews, they only care now it affects them.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 15 Apr 2019 07:45:25 14,730 posts
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    I mean, I get GDPR and privacy and such are super important. But after a week of loud and absolute support for Assange by Corbyn and his supporters, this is somewhat of an incredible take.

    https://twitter.com/gabriel_pogrund/status/1117354104634990592?s=21
  • challenge_hanukkah 15 Apr 2019 08:08:49 10,264 posts
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    This is almost as beautiful as it is inspiring.

    https://sputniknews.com/columnists/201904141074116730-julian-assange-poem/?utm_source=short_direct&utm_medium=short_url&utm_content=mkgA&utm_campaign=URL_shortening
  • You-can-call-me-kal 15 Apr 2019 08:30:08 14,730 posts
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    Jesus it goes on forever.

    This bit jumped out at me:

    But where is the proof of him doing anything bad?

    Accusations are levelled but charges not brought,

    Fair-minded people see that extradition must be fought,
    This is the paradox that Dianne Abbot tripped up on. He fled so charges could not be brought, and proof could not be provided. Extradition would allow those things to happen.
  • challenge_hanukkah 15 Apr 2019 08:34:00 10,264 posts
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    It's well timed as Carol Ann Duffy's ten year tenure as poet laureate is nearly up.
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