UK Politics Thread • Page 80
So whatís the issue?
And strictly speaking he was expelled from the party. Unusual I know...
It really isnít. I genuinely donít understand what point youíre making.
It seems to me yet again youíre following the Twitter Corbynites by pointing out the Woodcock thing (hive mind in full effect this morning) but theyíre protesting Assange being extradited to Sweden because itís all part of the some global conspiracy to silence him.
Youíre in favour of him being extradited to Sweden though, so again, whatís your issue?
So you donít agree with Corbyn about innocent until proven guilty? Or does that only apply to Assange?
Do you need Ash Sarkar to confirm whether this is an instance where nuanced thinking can be applied or not?
But the letter he signed is about his extradition to Sweden. So thatís moot.
And itís not my attempt to make you look like a rape apologist. Iím again suggesting youíve dived into copying opinions from Twitter without considering what point youíre actually making.
H1ggyLTD wrote:Hereís you very correctly pointing out the nuance.
Can you think he's a wrong un and that this is still bad?
And my assumption about you not supporting extradition to Sweden was based on your post about Woodcock. Youíve now clarified you, like Woodcock, are in favour of extradition to Sweden.
So again, what is the issue here?
If you actually posted proper opinions instead of total non sequiturs then we wouldnít have to infer them.
H1ggyLTD wrote:Ugh, thatís not what Iím saying.
America being the bad.
Obviously that post isn't 'i think he's a wrong un but him facing justice for that is bad'.
You know that.
How about again, you explain your view? It would make discussion so much easier.
I can't decide whether it's genuine moral relativism or just not giving a shit outside of trying to own someone amongst the tribalist divisions
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Bah, cheap thoughtless internet points. The fact that no-one here can respect him anymore and therefore care about said score seems to escape him.
More leaks showing privately Corbyn acknowledges Labour is ignoring antisemetism, but publicly he denies its existence and blames Jews for making it up.
Also whistleblowing is now bad again after a week of claiming itís crucially important.
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The Margaret Hodge secret taping?
I'm in two minds. It definitely shows it is being handled very poorly and highlights his inability to deal with the issue but on the other hand it shows it is something he is concerned about as opposed to indifference/support.
Also secretly taking your boss should get you sacked immediately.
As per my post, publicly denying the scale of the issue whilst privately acknowledging it, and allowing/encouraging your media outlets and party members to perpetuate a smear/witch-hunt narrative is disgraceful.
If he is concerned itís pretty clear at this point itís only about reputational damage.
I can't remember who said it but I'd agree with the sentiment that they don't care about antisemitism when it affected Jews, they only care now it affects them.
I mean, I get GDPR and privacy and such are super important. But after a week of loud and absolute support for Assange by Corbyn and his supporters, this is somewhat of an incredible take.
This is almost as beautiful as it is inspiring.
Jesus it goes on forever.
This bit jumped out at me:
But where is the proof of him doing anything bad?This is the paradox that Dianne Abbot tripped up on. He fled so charges could not be brought, and proof could not be provided. Extradition would allow those things to happen.
Accusations are levelled but charges not brought,
Fair-minded people see that extradition must be fought,
It's well timed as Carol Ann Duffy's ten year tenure as poet laureate is nearly up.
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