Following Google Stadia Page 24

  • Malek86 26 Apr 2020 15:27:32 12,331 posts
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    @BigOrkWaaagh when you disconnect from the game for whatever reason (usually because the connection to the server is crap), if you open it again within 10 minutes, you'll be back in the exact same position as before.

    If you wait more than 10 minutes, you have to restart the game and hope the last save wasn't too far back.

    Edited by Malek86 at 15:28:19 26-04-2020
  • Deleted user 27 April 2020 09:09:48
    Got a free Pro trial offer so I thought I'd give it a shot. I fired up Destiny 2 in Chrome and it moved OK but looked rubbish - would've tried it on my Shield TV Pro but it isn't compatible. Had a look through the library of games and also tried Grid, also looked rubbish. Then I cancelled my account - it was an exciting 30 minutes!
  • ManicDrunkMonk 1 Feb 2021 20:29:24 557 posts
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    Seems like they’re giving up:

    https://kotaku.com/google-stadia-shuts-down-internal-studios-changing-bus-1846146761/amp?__twitter_impression=true
  • Malek86 1 Feb 2021 20:32:17 12,331 posts
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    Stadia had internal studios?

    Did they even release anything?
  • ManicDrunkMonk 1 Feb 2021 20:34:05 557 posts
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    @Malek86 Not that I know of.
  • JamboWayOh 1 Feb 2021 20:40:25 25,236 posts
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    I did not see this coming. Not at all. It's all so shocking. Google, abandoning something?
  • JamboWayOh 1 Feb 2021 20:46:49 25,236 posts
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    Seriously though anyone who actually bought into this thinking it was going to be a competitor to Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft was high as fuck. So that's both two massive companies (Amazon too) who have shat the bed massively in trying to enter the gaming industry.
  • fontgeeksogood 1 Feb 2021 20:49:17 12,913 posts
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    They're just not developing games, Jambo. The platform still makes sense, cloud gaming is clearly the way forwards.

    The better analogy is that they've done a Reverse Sega
  • JamboWayOh 1 Feb 2021 20:52:13 25,236 posts
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    Really, I think the analogy is that they've done a Google and abandoned another project. Yeah the technology is sound but the product was DOA when companies like Microsoft And Nvidia introduced their own streaming services with crucially of stuff you already own. They had such a weird pricing model
  • nickthegun 1 Feb 2021 21:26:36 87,711 posts
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    They were just really evasive. The monthly fee was obviously to cover hosting costs, so why not just say that? Sell it as having your own cloud instance.

    But then you can probably only charge a fee or full whack for games, not both. Nothing about it was good value.

    Especially when you compare it to 22 quid a month for an Xbox and gamepass
  • JamboWayOh 1 Feb 2021 21:34:31 25,236 posts
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    I'm still amazed that anyone actually believed that Google were going to do things differently this time.
  • QuickWithKnives 1 Feb 2021 22:04:39 127 posts
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    I don’t have a particular axe to grind with Google; I just didn’t think either they or Amazon had any chance of succeeding in the current gaming market.
  • nickthegun 1 Feb 2021 22:11:00 87,711 posts
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    I think it’s more that it came out just as google cemented its reputation for binning stuff. Everyone assumed this was DOA the minute it was announced and thus it became DOA.

    Same with anything else they announce.
  • JamboWayOh 1 Feb 2021 22:26:06 25,236 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    I think it’s more that it came out just as google cemented its reputation for binning stuff. Everyone assumed this was DOA the minute it was announced and thus it became DOA.

    Same with anything else they announce.
    The press release for this kinda reads as 'making games is hard, I'm going home now'.
  • THFourteen 1 Feb 2021 22:42:56 54,987 posts
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    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    Obviously I wasn’t suggesting this specific piece of tech is going to singlehandedly revolutionise all internet infrastructure...

    New tech sets new benchmarks for all the other tech. I would be absolutely astonished if the next gen of consoles weren’t all somewhat influenced by the Stadia, not to mention the slew of other 4K, 8K etc streaming services, and everything else that’s coming.
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    Hehe
  • Dirtbox 2 Feb 2021 01:56:27 92,595 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    I think it’s more that it came out just as google cemented its reputation for binning stuff. Everyone assumed this was DOA the minute it was announced and thus it became DOA.

    Same with anything else they announce.
    Precisely. Google needs to fix their rep.

    Plus internet in america is fucking bullshit with low speeds and data caps. Stadia wasn't even useable for a majority of people.

    Honestly, I think the only company with enough clout and ability, not to mention library is Valve. Just build it into the Steam client and charge a reasonable price.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 02:13:48 02-02-2021
  • deez 2 Feb 2021 07:55:47 381 posts
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    Bit disappointed if this goes as got the free cyberpunk offer and I've found it pretty decent, especially for a blast on the laptop in front of the telly.

    Also, more redundant plastic. I have they offer a proper way to use the controller fully on PC so they don't all just go in the bin.
  • Psiloc 2 Feb 2021 09:46:14 6,366 posts
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    Solution looking for a problem.
  • uiruki 2 Feb 2021 10:08:28 5,975 posts
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    I was watching the Giant Bomb E3 talk with the Stadia guy and his response to Jeff Gerstmann's concern that he already blows through data caps was that 'the internet will fix it'.
  • Tonka 2 Feb 2021 10:18:25 31,979 posts
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    I'd love to know the reasoning for this, but also WTF they expected their internal dev studio to do in less than a year.
  • deadpxl 2 Feb 2021 10:19:54 14 posts
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    sTrEaMiNg iS cLeArLy tHe fUtUrE
  • JamboWayOh 2 Feb 2021 10:25:34 25,236 posts
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    You should go see the Stadia sub Reddit if you want to see denial in action. There's a lot of people trying to turn closing all your game studios as a positive.
  • Fake_Blood 2 Feb 2021 10:49:33 11,093 posts
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    Maybe Nintendo would be interested in streaming stuff in 4K to the switch pro, plus their codebase already is made for Nvidia hardware, which Stadia uses iirc.
  • nickthegun 2 Feb 2021 10:58:44 87,711 posts
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    They already stream games(ish). Control and Hitman 3 on the switch offload their graphics processing to THE CLOUD.

    I think the take away from this isnt that game streaming is a lost cause, its more that google are fucking useless for anything other than selling adverts.

    Edited by nickthegun at 11:03:16 02-02-2021
  • You-can-call-me-kal 2 Feb 2021 11:01:37 23,013 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    Obviously I wasn’t suggesting this specific piece of tech is going to singlehandedly revolutionise all internet infrastructure...

    New tech sets new benchmarks for all the other tech. I would be absolutely astonished if the next gen of consoles weren’t all somewhat influenced by the Stadia, not to mention the slew of other 4K, 8K etc streaming services, and everything else that’s coming.
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    Hehe
    What?
  • JamboWayOh 2 Feb 2021 11:02:50 25,236 posts
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    Yep, they seem to have no direction at times and come across as an easily bored child.
  • nickthegun 2 Feb 2021 11:07:11 87,711 posts
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    You see it all the time in IT unless its well managed. Theres no glory in keeping the lights on and anyone with any talent usually jumps onto the next shiny thing.

    It feels like nobody hangs around to curate anything at google. They shove something out to great fanfare and then it just withers and dies.
  • Zerobob 2 Feb 2021 11:20:01 3,017 posts
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    Streaming is definitely the future, because it just makes sense in terms of efficiency and convenience. However, I think 2 major things will need to happen first, which could still take decades.

    First, fibre broadband has to be installed in the majority of homes. It also needs to be acknowledged as the essential household utility that it's become, now everything from key government services, banking, TV, gaming, etc. has all been pushed online, in some cases exclusively. Subsequently, fibre connections must be charged at far lower rates to reflect this, as it's no longer a luxury service.

    Second, a central standard for buying cross-platform digital games needs to be developed, that's interchangeable between streaming platforms, meaning games aren't tied to the success and existence of single companies. Of course, games can remain exclusive to certain streaming services for set periods of time (years) to encourage competition, but as all games will ultimately become a PC game running on standard cloud server hardware, it only seems fair to the consumer to future-proof game purchases by eventually allowing "platform exclusives" to be played via any streaming service.
  • mothercruncher 2 Feb 2021 12:47:52 19,474 posts
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    Friends don’t let friends buy into paid Google stuff folks.
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