Jony Ive to leave Apple Page 6

  • fontgeeksogood 2 Jul 2019 19:33:59 11,269 posts
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    mothercruncher wrote:
    Seriously though, Andrew Usb deserves to be twatted up the head by each and every person that sees him each day for that original design. How the FUCK can I seemingly get a 50% choice wrong every bloody time I plug something in?
    He wanted it to be reversible IIRC, but manufacturers wanted to squeeze every penny - making it one way only saved costs. And given that nobody was as passionate about it as a universal connector as he was, he bowed to that pressure to get it done
  • nickthegun 2 Jul 2019 19:51:32 83,748 posts
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    He has similar regrets to Tim Berners-Lee who will rue making people type 'www' until the day he dies.
  • robthehermit 2 Jul 2019 19:54:29 8,049 posts
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    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    robthehermit wrote:
    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    Stagnant lol. They’re the most valuable brand in the world and the first and only trillion dollar business.
    That is complete bollocks.
    I didn’t realise Amazon had also done it, but other than that error it’s not bollocks.
    Microsoft are currently the only trillion dollar company at $1.04t, Amazon are in second place with $9.4b, and Apple are in third with $9.29b according to some googling what I did earlier.
  • Not-a-reviewer 2 Jul 2019 20:17:19 6,642 posts
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    Citigroup were the first to be worth 1 trillion.

    It’s all kinda pedantic though, they’re one of a handful to be worth anywhere near that much, as such they are not stagnant.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 2 Jul 2019 20:31:43 21,390 posts
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    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/aug/02/apple-becomes-worlds-first-trillion-dollar-company?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
  • You-can-call-me-kal 2 Jul 2019 20:32:23 21,390 posts
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    https://www.ft.com/content/aebad290-9644-11e8-b67b-b8205561c3fe
  • You-can-call-me-kal 2 Jul 2019 20:33:05 21,390 posts
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/apple-is-the-first-1-trillion-company-in-history/2018/08/02/ea3e7a02-9599-11e8-a679-b09212fb69c2_story.html??noredirect=on
  • You-can-call-me-kal 2 Jul 2019 20:33:47 21,390 posts
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    https://internationalbanker.com/brokerage/apple-the-worlds-first-trillion-dollar-company/
  • Not-a-reviewer 2 Jul 2019 20:42:03 6,642 posts
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    https://www.forbes.com/2003/03/27/cx_ld_0327trillion.html
  • You-can-call-me-kal 2 Jul 2019 20:44:26 21,390 posts
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    So assets vs market valuation.

    Similarly market valuation and brand valuation are also different things.
  • elstoof 2 Jul 2019 20:53:11 26,254 posts
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    A bit like how having a £1m house doesn’t make you a millionaire
  • fontgeeksogood 2 Jul 2019 20:54:12 11,269 posts
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    Being Rodger Timpsons Shoe Repairs does though

    Edited by fontgeeksogood at 20:54:25 02-07-2019
  • elstoof 2 Jul 2019 20:55:50 26,254 posts
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    It makes you lots of things
  • fontgeeksogood 2 Jul 2019 20:56:20 11,269 posts
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    Not somebody to mess with
  • Not-a-reviewer 2 Jul 2019 20:58:47 6,642 posts
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    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    So assets vs market valuation.

    Similarly market valuation and brand valuation are also different things.
    Yes.
  • elstoof 2 Jul 2019 20:59:03 26,254 posts
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    Just not my emotions
  • Tonka 2 Jul 2019 22:00:13 31,378 posts
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    If being a trillion dollars company is an indication of quality, then Apple is in no danger.

    MS doesn't have any star designers (although I suspect apples next Jonny will have cut his teeth at MS (yes, Andrew Kim)) and neither does Amazon. Yet, by the kalel measurement of quality they both outperform the Cupertino Cornucopia.
  • Khanivor 2 Jul 2019 22:19:42 44,689 posts
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    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    So assets vs market valuation.

    Similarly market valuation and brand valuation are also different things.
    If the market goes tits up Apple can go from being with a trillion to a hundred million.

    That trillion in assets is still going to be worth a trillion.
  • robthehermit 2 Jul 2019 22:23:13 8,049 posts
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    Except they're not a trillion dollar company, currently they're a 932.78 billion dollar company.
  • elstoof 2 Jul 2019 22:25:12 26,254 posts
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    Not really, if your assets are in a tanking currency, obsolete commodity etc than assets are as volatile as a valuation. What Apple has in its favour compared to Microsoft and Amazon, is that they sell a product everyone needs and is also desirable. No one uses amazon for any other reason than they’re ubiquitous, and no one desires Microsoft products
  • fontgeeksogood 2 Jul 2019 22:43:32 11,269 posts
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    DEAR RODGER SKYNET

    PLEASE LEAVE NO SURVIVORS
  • sport 2 Jul 2019 22:50:31 16,478 posts
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    First BAZILLION $$$ company or GTFO!!!
  • up_the_ante 3 Jul 2019 02:41:17 1,457 posts
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    Why is everyone obsessed with them being worth a trillion dollars? It's effectively an arbitrary number. What if the dollar was slightly stronger and they were only worth $974BN then no one would be going on and on about it.

    Edited by up_the_ante at 02:42:44 03-07-2019
  • You-can-call-me-kal 3 Jul 2019 06:44:09 21,390 posts
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    robthehermit wrote:
    Except they're not a trillion dollar company, currently they're a 932.78 billion dollar company.
    That has nothing to do with the post you said was complete bollocks. Again, the only error was in not realising Amazon had also realised a trillion valuation. Apart from that everything I said was 100% true.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 3 Jul 2019 06:44:49 21,390 posts
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    up_the_ante wrote:
    Why is everyone obsessed with them being worth a trillion dollars? It's effectively an arbitrary number. What if the dollar was slightly stronger and they were only worth $974BN then no one would be going on and on about it.
    Because the suggestion was that as a business they are “stagnant” which is fucking laughable.
  • Youthist 3 Jul 2019 07:15:39 14,415 posts
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    The entire phone market is stagnant, that is a fact. They are trying to position themselves as a services led org to boost their valuation because from a unit sales standpoint their business is definitely stagnant, so they need to mask it, which they are good at doing.

    They are also a complete bunch of cunts, anecdotally.
  • robthehermit 3 Jul 2019 07:57:04 8,049 posts
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    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    robthehermit wrote:
    Except they're not a trillion dollar company, currently they're a 932.78 billion dollar company.
    That has nothing to do with the post you said was complete bollocks. Again, the only error was in not realising Amazon had also realised a trillion valuation. Apart from that everything I said was 100% true.
    The only part of your post that was "100% true" was that they were first.

    Most valuable brand in the world is arguable and will always be a matter of opinion and can therefore never be 100% true.

    "The worlds first and only trillion dollar company."

    First to break one trillion yes, I'll give you that, but currently the only trillion dollar company is Microsoft.

    Fuck me it's like arguing with a brick.
  • nickthegun 3 Jul 2019 08:41:30 83,748 posts
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    If you fit the definition of a 'brand' and are worth a trillion, how is that arguable?
  • robthehermit 3 Jul 2019 09:00:53 8,049 posts
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    Don't you start.
  • nickthegun 3 Jul 2019 09:02:44 83,748 posts
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    I feel like point would have been better made as 'they made have been the first but they are no longer the only one' rather than 'that's complete bollocks'

    Edited by nickthegun at 09:03:13 03-07-2019
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