Following PS5 - 'leaked' design Page 9

  • Carlo 20 Mar 2020 08:54:16 21,013 posts
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    ozthegweat wrote:
    wat
    ITS A FACT!
  • mothercruncher 20 Mar 2020 08:57:56 17,361 posts
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    Itís lacking flops guys and, as you crest that berm in GT6 that will be ALL YOU CAN THINK OF.
  • dominalien 20 Mar 2020 09:04:18 9,474 posts
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    It's all I can think of right now. Sony dropped the ball. It's all over, man, all over.
  • Malek86 20 Mar 2020 09:40:24 9,713 posts
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    Feels like we're hitting a point where relative numbers aren't as important as absolute numbers anyway.

    When you have a 50 inches screen, you might be able to see the difference between 900p and 1080p. But would you really notice if a game is 1800p and the other is true 4K? And yet, relatively speaking, it's the same difference. Maybe in a 120 inches screen it would be more noticeable. Good luck finding a big enough wall.

    Same with load times. It sure sucks if it takes 2 minutes to load a save in The Witcher, while another console takes 50 seconds. But if a console takes 2 seconds and the other takes 5 seconds, suddenly it's not that much of a problem anymore.

    Not that it matters to keyboard warriors, of course. But specs aside, this will probably be the closest any generation has ever been to producing the same experience on all platforms.

    Edited by Malek86 at 09:41:41 20-03-2020
  • ozthegweat 20 Mar 2020 11:15:33 2,401 posts
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    In an effort to make sense of that amazing chart from the last page, I read the Wikipedia page about "performance".

    And found a photo of a naked woman unrolling Super 8 film from her vagina. So it wasn't all for nothing.
  • IronGiant 20 Mar 2020 11:18:29 6,027 posts
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    This all sounds great but will the difference in speed provide any real advantages to gaming on the PS5 over the X.

    https://www.tweaktown.com/news/71338/playstation-5-ssd-speeds-hit-9gb-sec-with-custom-12-channel-controller/index.html?utm_source=dlvr.it

    Edited by IronGiant at 11:19:39 20-03-2020
  • dominalien 20 Mar 2020 11:26:02 9,474 posts
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    This difference wonít, but the other one from the graph will.
  • AaronTurner 20 Mar 2020 13:56:54 11,798 posts
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    I'm really excited by the audio stuff. It sounds pretty whacky what they are doing, I don't know how they are going to manage to calibrate everyone's head. Maybe we'll be measuring our craniums or something.

    But genuinely, I'm really happy that they are so focused on the audio experience.
  • Derblington 20 Mar 2020 13:59:36 32,706 posts
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    I know a dude that got to play with the audio stuff a while ago and said it was incredible. Heís really excited about the possibilities.
  • dominalien 20 Mar 2020 13:59:44 9,474 posts
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    Like anyone's going to hear any difference. I also don't see devs going the extra mile to do something worthwhile with it, it's not like making games is easy and quick.
  • Malek86 20 Mar 2020 14:00:49 9,713 posts
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    Yeah, there's always this problem with strange new tech. Impulse triggers on the Xbox One sounded like a great idea, but very few games actually go past standard vibration.
  • JamboWayOh 20 Mar 2020 14:02:43 17,785 posts
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    It only works if everyone buys into getting good headsets, from what I gather a lot of people on console don't use headsets except those who properly into multiplayer games. Then we're just looking at normal TV inbuilt speakers.
  • Malek86 20 Mar 2020 14:07:45 9,713 posts
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    @JamboWayOh I invested in a decent 5.1 system a long time ago, but aside from the fact that it will never support any new technologies (it's stuck to HDMI 1.4), I don't think I'd hear much of a difference. I can barely tell a difference between compressed Dolby Digital and TrueHD.

    Headsets though, those could be nice. But again, I wonder what kind of quality headphones you'd need to really tell a difference over regular 5.1.
  • Derblington 20 Mar 2020 14:08:40 32,706 posts
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    Theyíre implementing it on speakers. They started with headphones.

    And people that care about audio absolutely will. This is in no-way confirmed but I almost guarantee you that DICE will do something with it for Battlefield as soon as possible. Audio teams will go crazy over it.
  • JamboWayOh 20 Mar 2020 14:09:46 17,785 posts
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    And that's the thing, surely this will require some good kit to make a difference other than it being a tagine on the box like 'sixaxis'.
  • AaronTurner 20 Mar 2020 14:17:25 11,798 posts
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    No, the best way to experience it would be on headphones I'd imagine, so pretty inexpensive.
  • AaronTurner 20 Mar 2020 14:18:49 11,798 posts
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    What he said about area sounds sources compared with point sources is very true, I'd be surprised if people wouldn't be able to tell the difference. And convolution reverb, that would really bring places to life.
  • JamboWayOh 20 Mar 2020 14:19:02 17,785 posts
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    AaronTurner wrote:
    No, the best way to experience it would be on headphones I'd imagine, so pretty inexpensive.
    I would imagine decent headphones, not some shitty ones. You'd hope there'd be a decent headset in the box to capitalise on it.
  • dominalien 20 Mar 2020 14:21:40 9,474 posts
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    It's a good thing audio teams have been sitting on their arses until now, I'm sure they'll be thrilled they finally have some work attaching splashing sounds to every single raindrop.
  • Derblington 20 Mar 2020 14:27:17 32,706 posts
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    If they get access to new tech theyíll explore and use it, despite how they currently work. Thatís how new tech works.
  • dominalien 20 Mar 2020 14:30:53 9,474 posts
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    I hope youíre right.
  • Derblington 20 Mar 2020 14:43:22 32,706 posts
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    JamboWayOh wrote:
    AaronTurner wrote:
    No, the best way to experience it would be on headphones I'd imagine, so pretty inexpensive.
    I would imagine decent headphones, not some shitty ones. You'd hope there'd be a decent headset in the box to capitalise on it.
    Itíll work with everything, but obviously better quality will increase the quality.
    Thereís no way theyíll bundle that kind of stuff though - the price needs to be kept down.
  • Ror 20 Mar 2020 14:49:48 19,609 posts
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    JamboWayOh wrote:
    I would imagine decent headphones, not some shitty ones. You'd hope there'd be a decent headset in the box to capitalise on it.
  • AaronTurner 20 Mar 2020 14:54:15 11,798 posts
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    You can get decent quality headphones for not too much money, 30-40 euros?

    I think I get particularly annoyed with some of the shoddy work that goes into games audio. I think battlefield is different, but when you wear headphones and turn your character round and a sound source completely disappears from one ear - fuck me i find that annoy. It will be a thing of the past with this system.
  • mothercruncher 20 Mar 2020 14:58:57 17,361 posts
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    I think The Divisionís sound work is some of the best Iíve ever heard but the game struggles to load assets on time and doesnít even bother occasionally under the weight of it all. A dedicated audio solution to pump all that out on time and with great fidelity is great.
  • Malek86 20 Mar 2020 14:59:35 9,713 posts
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    I avoid headphones in general - I find them uncomfortable, even the big kind. A good 5.1 system is a nice surrogate and won't tire my ears.
  • Zyrr 20 Mar 2020 15:06:08 424 posts
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    If the fancy spatial 3D audio works anything like they say it will, I imagine PSVR2 is going to be extremely immersive.
  • Derblington 20 Mar 2020 16:16:59 32,706 posts
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    Yeah, thatís the big thing Iím excited about it with it.
  • Malek86 20 Mar 2020 18:28:03 9,713 posts
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    Sony released an update on backwards compatibility:

    https://blog.us.playstation.com/2020/03/18/unveiling-new-details-of-playstation-5-hardware-technical-specs/

    We believe that the overwhelming majority of the 4,000+ PS4 titles will be playable on PS5.
    I'm honestly baffled that any titles at all should not work, especially when MS also just confirmed that all X1 titles will be playable on SX, but I guess the vast majority should cover it enough.
  • JamboWayOh 20 Mar 2020 19:31:13 17,785 posts
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    AaronTurner wrote:
    You can get decent quality headphones for not too much money, 30-40 euros? .
    Err, no. Not really.
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