The Surge 2

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  • Rogueywon Most Generous Forumite, 2016 23 Sep 2019 23:17:04 6,929 posts
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    Sequel to the moderately-successful sci-fi Soulslike. Apparently rather more ambitious than the first one and five minutes of mucking around with the PC version suggests that the tech powering it looks decent. Don't seem to be (m)any reviews yet, which may or may not be worrying.

    Moderately high hopes for this myself. This is by the Lords of the Fallen devs, which doesn't sound promising (LotF being the notorious "shit Soulslike"), but the first Surge game was fairly good. Second one has apparently had a bigger budget and some time to learn the lessons from the first.

    Still doesn't seem to have guns, for those who find themselves triggered by the lack of opportunity to express their Second Amendment rights (or international equivalent).
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 23 Sep 2019 23:22:28 21,771 posts
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    https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/the-surge-2-review/1900-6417315/
  • Rogueywon Most Generous Forumite, 2016 23 Sep 2019 23:24:14 6,929 posts
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    @Decks Ah, embargo seems to have just lifted.

    Edit: Coming in with 7s and 8s. Bit lower than I'd hoped, but consensus seems to be that the combat is excellent but the story and characters a bit shit. Think I can live with that (given I'm currently enduring the story in Gears 5 for the sake of the gunplay).

    Edited by Rogueywon at 23:27:26 23-09-2019
  • Nanocrystal 24 Sep 2019 00:24:57 1,928 posts
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    "I was born... in a prison..."

    The Surge remains the best non-From Soulslike I've played. The level design in particular was amazing and on a par with Dark Souls. The combat managed to combine the slow and heavy swings of DS with the quick dodge-stepping of BB and worked really well I thought. There was also a lot less emphasis on boss fights and more emphasis placed on level exploration, unlocking shortcuts/upgrades and working your way past regular enemies. That said, the few boss fights were pretty good too. It brought back that feeling of peril and caution from my first play through of DS1, which From's various other games since then haven't managed to do.

    Looks like they haven't made too many drastic changes for the sequel, so I'll definitely be getting it at some point.
  • nickthegun 24 Sep 2019 06:51:06 79,448 posts
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    The definition of 'when it's free', for me.

    I finished the first one and played it for hours but I kind of hated a lot of it. But the gameplay loop was really compulsive and it dragged me through the last few super shitty levels, so I will definitely play no.2 when it hits xgp or whatever but no way am I dropping 50 quid on it.
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 24 Sep 2019 07:07:40 21,771 posts
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    I still have the first one to play at some point. I find the the Souls games to be a bit of a joyless and stodgy hate fuck though so the thought of Aldi Souls doesn't really fill me with anticipation. I do generally prefer scifi to dungeons and dragons though.
  • nickthegun 24 Sep 2019 07:12:38 79,448 posts
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    I thought that but rather than the lush, open vistas of dark souls, you are wandering through generic sci-fi factory #278 for several lifetimes.

    It starts off alright but then boxes you into two of the most boring environments I've ever seen.
  • Deleted user 24 September 2019 07:24:24
    Still never played this despite owning it on 3 platforms. Just never fancied starting a playthrough.
  • wuntyate 24 Sep 2019 10:11:06 13,358 posts
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    Yeah I'll grab it at some point. I liked The Surge but not enough to playthrough more than once or even do the DLC. It also took me three attempts to get through it after ditching it at various points. It had a lot going for it but I personally found the combat let it down despite liking the limb targeting system. It just felt too loose and woolly. The level design (layout, not aesthetics) was really bloody good but visually, yes, it was a bit drab. Sometimes I felt like I was just working in the amazon warehouse. Boss fights were great though, bar one, and I did like the fact there were only a handful and most of the time was spent exploring the labyrinthian (sp?) levels.

    There wasn't enough variation in build or weapons though. I'm sure there's more here but I just can't get excited for it.

    Besides I want to see how Code Vein reviews as I'm quite intrigued by that for my souls-like fix.
  • Mr_Sleep 24 Sep 2019 13:00:12 22,934 posts
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    Might be a full price purchase for me as I really liked the first one, more of the same but improved somewhat is fine by me.
  • Blackmarsh63 24 Sep 2019 13:03:04 2,712 posts
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    ACG liked it for what it's worth.



    Edited by Blackmarsh63 at 13:03:48 24-09-2019
  • Frogofdoom 24 Sep 2019 13:03:05 14,856 posts
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    Simply are doing it for 36.85 I think.
  • Mr_Sleep 24 Sep 2019 14:32:25 22,934 posts
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    That is a good price. Enticing!
  • wuntyate 24 Sep 2019 14:42:01 13,358 posts
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    Damn. That IS enticing.
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 24 Sep 2019 14:47:55 21,771 posts
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    Shit I shouldn't have watched the video where he kicked someones head off. I kind of want it now.
  • wuntyate 24 Sep 2019 14:52:34 13,358 posts
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    It might be worth it purely to kick someone's fucking head off, you know that.
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 24 Sep 2019 14:55:47 21,771 posts
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    Beheading people is probably my favourite thing to do in a game worryingly. It's why Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2 are my favourites. Just popping their little heads off.
  • nickthegun 24 Sep 2019 14:57:13 79,448 posts
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    If you like that, just imagine having to do it 8000 times to farm specific resources. It never, ever gets boring...
  • wuntyate 24 Sep 2019 14:58:11 13,358 posts
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    It's just too satisfying. Pop go their little heads. Pop pop pop. If you can then kick the head about I consider that a bonus.
  • wuntyate 24 Sep 2019 14:59:03 13,358 posts
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    Ahhh. I remember those happy hedonistic days spent playing soldier of fortune. Simpler times...
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 24 Sep 2019 15:00:10 21,771 posts
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    This page may be in the Daily Mail tomorrow.
  • wuntyate 24 Sep 2019 15:02:26 13,358 posts
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    In that case can I add that video games don't make me violent, I just love the sight of a head leaving the neck on a fountain of red fun soda.
  • StarchildHypocrethes 24 Sep 2019 15:10:07 32,502 posts
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    Been a fan of a good beheading ever since The Immortal on megadrive.
  • wuntyate 24 Sep 2019 15:10:25 13,358 posts
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    Bloody hell. 50 in Game and Smyths. Sod that. That takes the impulse purchase edge off anyway.
  • Frogofdoom 24 Sep 2019 15:11:39 14,856 posts
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    Violent video games are what makes me vote labour.

    Pretty much guarantees this page hits the daily mail now.

    Edited by Frogofdoom at 15:11:52 24-09-2019
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 24 Sep 2019 15:13:54 21,771 posts
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    Jeremy Corbyn visited me in a dream and told me to practice beheading people in violent video games so that one day I can join ISIS. Princess Diana.

    That's the express sorted.
  • StarchildHypocrethes 24 Sep 2019 15:30:13 32,502 posts
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    The changes run through here all sound pretty cool:

    https://youtu.be/JnGhlfsiNwY

    Also features a short slo-mo head/limb chopping segment.
  • nickthegun 24 Sep 2019 15:38:01 79,448 posts
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    They tied everything to it last time. Resource farming, recovering health and mana, the lot, which is why it was so fucking tedious by the time you reached the end.

    I mean, yes, if you want to upgrade your arm armour, you need to chop someone's arm off, fine. Don't make me do it another million times.
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 24 Sep 2019 15:41:27 21,771 posts
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    I'd have the strongest head armour in all the land.
  • Cappy 24 Sep 2019 16:06:28 14,149 posts
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    There is certainly a very good chance that the sequel will be an improvement, what with the first game not being very good.

    Hopefully they depart entirely from what came before since I found practically nothing to like about the first game, which is quite an achievement.
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