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  • Graxlar_v3 27 Nov 2019 11:44:25 8,551 posts
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    You guys are making me feel sad.

    Sekiro has the best parrying system i have ever played.

    Edit: and demon of hatred is probably the worst boss in the game, purely because he was a souls boss in a non-souls game.

    Edited by Graxlar_v3 at 11:46:30 27-11-2019
  • Rogueywon Most Generous Forumite, 2016 27 Nov 2019 12:01:04 6,929 posts
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    MrAGSystems wrote:
    The parrying in Sekiro is junk. I can parry my heart out in Metal Gear Rising and Nioh, but Sekiro just feels wrong...

    Anyways, got as far as fighting Delver, and got it to it's second form. I should really go to bed...
    Delver's fun. Each of its forms has very different patterns. My tip is to save your drone ammo for the second form and try to burn through that was quickly as you can (it's the nastiest).

    Don't lose your muscle memory from that fight. Might be needing bits of it again later.
  • MrAGSystems 27 Nov 2019 12:24:01 323 posts
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    @Rogueywon Understood 😁

    Just got it down to its third form, now that's some nasty stuff.
  • wuntyate 27 Nov 2019 12:27:18 13,358 posts
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    Third form I found it best to just keep running and dip in for some fast attacks after his big charge thing. It is an awesome fight though. Awesome game as well. Seriously good. I kind of wish I'd waited til the texture shit had been sorted before I played it as it looked like ass.
  • MrAGSystems 27 Nov 2019 12:33:43 323 posts
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    Nevermind, he's down 😁
  • MrAGSystems 27 Nov 2019 12:54:41 323 posts
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    Wait, wait, so the robots have heads that look like Johnny 5 from Short Circuit and I'm about to go talk to a guy named Guttenberg ?!

    Need input! 😁
  • MrAGSystems 28 Nov 2019 17:07:01 323 posts
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    Got my Force Hook and met Warren from the first game last night. That climb to the top of the hospital was tense stuff.

    Gonna park the game for tonight as I haven't even opened my other Black Friday pick ups (Catherine Full 2, Yooka-Laylee and the Impossible Lair and Kingdom Hearts 3).
  • Rogueywon Most Generous Forumite, 2016 28 Nov 2019 17:19:36 6,929 posts
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    @MrAGSystems You're a good way through this now - possibly around the 2/3rds mark. It's a really good game, but not the biggest by the standards of the genre.
  • MrAGSystems 28 Nov 2019 18:38:17 323 posts
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    @Rogueywon That's a relief in one sense. I'm a smidge burnt out on massive games right now, plus Soulsborne games always falter in the later stages (even DS1 and BB).

    I'll actually have trouble going back to DSIII after this as the parrying is so good.
  • MrAGSystems 28 Nov 2019 23:46:28 323 posts
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    Been playing Impossible Lair all evening and it's great... but had to put this back on!

    Ezra down on my second attempt, happy!
  • Rogueywon Most Generous Forumite, 2016 29 Nov 2019 00:06:36 6,929 posts
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    @MrAGSystems That's good going. He took me a lot of attempts. You'll notice the world has changed around you now. The city has degenerated further, closing off some old routes but opening up new ones. Also, a few optional bosses are available once you get back into the city streets.
  • MrAGSystems 29 Nov 2019 01:23:36 323 posts
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    @Rogueywon Thanks, the first phase was a bit tricky, but once I got him out of the mech, I let him whiff a combo and caned him. My build favours attack speed, stamina regen and overall stamina, combined with the GAIA Lancer (which has only 76% stamina consumption) makes me a wrecking machine at times.

    Intrigued to see the city! I ran into Echo Alpha Delver in the Underground, almost had him on first try (as you mentioned, muscle memory helped a whole lot).

    Unless they've droped the ball spectacularly in the last chunk of the game, this is now nailed on to be my GotY. Bravo to Deck13, they've really knocked it out of the park.
  • Rogueywon Most Generous Forumite, 2016 29 Nov 2019 10:10:21 6,929 posts
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    It doesn't drop the ball in the final stages. It's a pretty compact game. There's a point just before the last dungeon where you might want to finish up any sidequests, but otherwise the back end of the game is very much like the rest of it. If there's one criticism I'd make, it would be that I found the later bosses a bit straightforward - think my level and gear may have been ahead of the curve by that point.

    But otherwise, what you've seen so far is pretty representative of what's still to go. This was barely on my radar at all, but my pick for GOTY is either this or Borderlands 3.
  • MiniSchnauz 29 Nov 2019 15:52:39 359 posts
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    @MrAGSystems It's finely crafted all the way through and my only regret is the same as Roguey: I wish some of the later bosses were harder but you have a beautiful Souls-style boss fight coming up very soon. Also, avoid the spoiler below.

    RogueyOne - did anyone ever figure out if you had to fight Little Johnny again at the church if you didn't turn off the computer by the way?

    I really should get back to my NG+ run. I want to see how they flip the story around.
  • MrAGSystems 29 Nov 2019 21:43:35 323 posts
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    Thanks chaps...

    Well I appear to have hit a bug - fighting Echo Delver, when I get close to it it messes with the gamma and drops the entire screen into near-blackness. I can't read its attacks as I can't see them 🙁
  • wuntyate 29 Nov 2019 21:47:03 13,358 posts
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    Ah. That doesn't sound normal.
  • MrAGSystems 29 Nov 2019 21:52:00 323 posts
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    I swapped in some implants just before going there (extra damage to nanite enemies) and this didn't happen when I fought it last night without that implant, so I'm gonna take that out and see.

    Rebooting the game didn't work, this is a bit of a shitter to be honest.
  • Rogueywon Most Generous Forumite, 2016 29 Nov 2019 21:59:05 6,929 posts
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    @MrAGSystems That sounds shit and very much like a bug. Optional boss so you could just skip it, but hardly a great solution.
  • MrAGSystems 29 Nov 2019 22:05:28 323 posts
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    Yep, this is fucked now, I can't see a thing with it.
  • wuntyate 29 Nov 2019 22:14:12 13,358 posts
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    That is fucking weird. Shame. Its such a rough game. Brilliant, but rough as fuck.

    Edited by wuntyphyve at 22:14:22 29-11-2019
  • MrAGSystems 29 Nov 2019 22:43:44 323 posts
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    Yeah this has really put a dampener on my fun.

    Aside from the occasional texture not loading correctly it was smooth sailing until this happened.
  • wuntyate 29 Nov 2019 23:15:14 13,358 posts
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    You really don't need to kill those echos though. I didn't even bother with the implants I got from them. Push on! Don't let it sway you. I played through the whole thing looking like a PS2 game dammit.

    Edited by wuntyphyve at 23:15:24 29-11-2019
  • MrAGSystems 30 Nov 2019 01:00:57 323 posts
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    Ha, yeah when the textures didn't load it certainly looked eh, retro.

    I've parked it for this evening but will return and take him on when I'm a bit more overpowered.
  • MiniSchnauz 30 Nov 2019 02:11:47 359 posts
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    It could just be a save glitch so may be worth pushing on through, finding another health station with the world status changed and getting back to it later.

    Damn shame though.
  • neems 2 Dec 2019 10:29:11 4,765 posts
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    Finally bit the bullet on this, thanks to this thread and the Steam sale, and I am really surprised by how good it is. A bit easy so far (I think I may be massively over-levelled though) but so more-ish.

    It took me so many attempts to pull off a directional parry.
  • uiruki 2 Dec 2019 12:06:39 4,993 posts
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    I really like the directional parrying. It gives the game its own unique feel. Also dismembering people by punching pieces off them.
  • Rogueywon Most Generous Forumite, 2016 2 Dec 2019 13:04:15 6,929 posts
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    @uiruki Yeah, I went straight from Surge 2, with its directional parry system, into Code Vein, which has a traditional Souls-style parry system. The former feels a lot more responsive and tactile.

    Plus it feels really quite special when you manage to fully parry a four-hit combo from a boss and break its guard. I don't think Delver Echo Alpha even managed to land a single hit on me, as I was pretty damned good at the parries by that point and already knew the timings from the original Delver.
  • MrAGSystems 2 Dec 2019 14:10:46 323 posts
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    I fucking love using the directional parry as a last ditch - you're getting battered, almost no stamina left to block so you may as well gamble on a party and boom, you've saved your skin.

    Haven't been gaming over the weekend, so gonna go back on it today and just move past the weird brightness bug.
  • MrAGSystems 2 Dec 2019 14:30:00 323 posts
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    Whoop, I bumped the brightness up to maximum so I could actually see his attacks and just parried the shit out of him.

    Onwards!

    Edited by MrAGSystems at 14:30:13 02-12-2019
  • MrAGSystems 2 Dec 2019 14:54:15 323 posts
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    Parry the fuck out of resurrected Brother Eli as well? Don't mind if I do.

    Edited by MrAGSystems at 14:57:46 02-12-2019
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