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No-one said disc wasn't cheaper, just that you don't need to pay RRP. That's true. Digital sales don't match retail at all times but they happen far more frequently and do offer some, relative, bargains. Also accurate. If you want to stay disc-based for your reasons that's all fine. No need to have a dig at anyone about it. |
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Derblington 35,161 posts
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hedben2013 2,261 posts
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Registered 9 years agoHarryB wrote:
I may have asked this question before but...
up_the_ante wrote:
The fact it’s called series X, I’m hoping the lowest spec supported will be the One X although that still has a weak CPU I guess
It will be disappointing if they've hobbled Halo Infinite just so it runs cross generation. I'd be interested in a unique Halo for next gen, but a Halo developed so it can run on base Xbox One and made 4k 60fps for X series not so much.
Have we now had confirmation from MS that there will be games running on the X and Series X but not the base Xbone? Or does that essentially break the promise they made about the One X when it launched- that it wouldn't have its own "exclusives".
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Derblington 35,161 posts
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Registered 17 years agohedben2013 wrote:
No, there's no confirmation, and there won't be. If it runs on a One X it'll also run on a One S/base model. Maybe really poorly but it will boot.
HarryB wrote:
I may have asked this question before but...
up_the_ante wrote:
The fact it’s called series X, I’m hoping the lowest spec supported will be the One X although that still has a weak CPU I guess
It will be disappointing if they've hobbled Halo Infinite just so it runs cross generation. I'd be interested in a unique Halo for next gen, but a Halo developed so it can run on base Xbox One and made 4k 60fps for X series not so much.
Have we now had confirmation from MS that there will be games running on the X and Series X but not the base Xbone? Or does that essentially break the promise they made about the One X when it launched- that it wouldn't have its own "exclusives".
(And yeah the name sucks, particularly when discussing what's different between the three versions) -
Armoured_Bear 31,233 posts
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Registered 10 years agoCarlo wrote:
I don't think we need to do the same old argument.
Armoured_Bear wrote:
I've never found it cheaper going digital. And I can't resell it.
mothercruncher wrote:
Point being that you don't have to pay full price going digital, even if you insist on buying day one, you can usually find it a bit cheaper. Wait a few months and you get PSN stuff for relative peanuts.
Armoured_Bear wrote:
Never done it apart from that time I did it.
BigOrkWaaagh wrote:
I'm digital only and don't think I've ever paid 60 quid for a game, maybe BoTW and that's it.
fontgeeksogood wrote:
So you don't have to pay £59.99 for a game
Why does it still have a disc slot. It looks like an antique before it is launched
They will take the opportunity to hike prices a touch next gen. I’ll bet £60 for a digital game will be the new minimum.
Awful name too, indistinct. But indicative of the iterative nature of consoles now.
With digital, you lose the trade-in or resale value and gain convenience.
Depends what you prioritise, for me, the convenience is well worth it and as I rarely buy games day one, I usually pay bugger all during PSN sales.
I just bought RE3 for 15.99, God of War for 15 quid, Horizon: ZD for 12.99 etc. -
JamboWayOh 25,236 posts
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Registered 8 years agoSo essentially well over a year later? Then yeah games will be cheaper. -
Ror 20,336 posts
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Registered 12 years ago@Frogofdoom Yep, should hopefully keep it fairly quiet. I just don't want a hot, noisy console - my PC is actually quieter than my PS4 FFS. -
Frogofdoom 17,973 posts
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Registered 9 years agoYeah my pc is pretty much silent. We had a courier drop a machine we were sending to a customer and it broke a foot on the tower so we had to use a new case. Managed to fix it and use it for my home pc so it's all sound proofed.
Going to have real issues finding a spot for that xbox though as it wont go in my av unit and the amp sits on top. I could sit it on top of my pc I guess but I dont really want to do that. -
nickthegun 87,711 posts
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Registered 16 years agoSince I got XBGP, I haven’t bought a game so digital = cheaper.
In fact, I’m so impressed with the PC version, I would probably go with this over a PS5, barring some increased parity between platforms.
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Bichii 4,672 posts
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Registered 4 years agoYeah not sure what sales some of you see but generally the new digital safe comes up and I have a look because maybe it's a game I'm waiting on. The games been out got months and months and the sale is 59.99 down to an incredible 44.99...
Such a rip off. I've got some digital games but they are nearly all old games on some deep sale. Pretty sure the only full price one I got was the Witcher 3 but back then it was £40 digital.
I'd much rather go all digital but not how it is now. A game would cost me somewhere between 55-60 instead of the 10 ish it cost me when I get it physical. -
Frogofdoom 17,973 posts
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Registered 9 years agoYeah, game pass is the best new(ish) thing that has come to gaming in ages. -
hedben2013 2,261 posts
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Registered 9 years agoDerblington wrote:
Thanks- I don't know whether to be thrilled that I'll be able to play "next gen" Series X games on my One X, or concerned that the games I'm playing have been held back by being made to be bootable on a crappy old One S!
hedben2013 wrote:
No, there's no confirmation, and there won't be. If it runs on a One X it'll also run on a One S/base model. Maybe really poorly but it will boot.
HarryB wrote:
I may have asked this question before but...
up_the_ante wrote:
The fact it’s called series X, I’m hoping the lowest spec supported will be the One X although that still has a weak CPU I guess
It will be disappointing if they've hobbled Halo Infinite just so it runs cross generation. I'd be interested in a unique Halo for next gen, but a Halo developed so it can run on base Xbox One and made 4k 60fps for X series not so much.
Have we now had confirmation from MS that there will be games running on the X and Series X but not the base Xbone? Or does that essentially break the promise they made about the One X when it launched- that it wouldn't have its own "exclusives".
(And yeah the name sucks, particularly when discussing what's different between the three versions) -
Armoured_Bear 31,233 posts
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Registered 10 years agoBichii wrote:
It's a rip-off when a game that costs tens of millions and hundreds doesn't go for pennies after 10 minutes?
Yeah not sure what sales some of you see but generally the new digital safe comes up and I have a look because maybe it's a game I'm waiting on. The games been out got months and months and the sale is 59.99 down to an incredible 44.99...
Such a rip off. I've got some digital games but they are nearly all old games on some deep sale. Pretty sure the only full price one I got was the Witcher 3 but back then it was £40 digital.
I'd much rather go all digital but not how it is now. A game would cost me somewhere between 55-60 instead of the 10 ish it cost me when I get it physical.
Anyway, if you have a PS4 subscribe to psprices.com, as I said, RE2 is from this year and was on sale at 15.99.
I think most major games are pretty good value, even at full price; tens or hundreds of hours of entertainment for 50 quid when console games cost more than that 20 years ago. -
Derblington 35,161 posts
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Registered 17 years ago@hedben2013
There's nothing to be thrilled about. There's no announcement that Series X games will run on a One X at all. -
fontgeeksogood 12,913 posts
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Registered 3 years agoThe trade of the shitty physical media is a factor of what keeps digital prices high, and its weird to have to type that obviousness out -
Armoured_Bear 31,233 posts
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Registered 10 years agofontgeeksogood wrote:
It needs to die, bad for the environment, bad for publishers, bad for digital pricing.
The trade of the shitty physical media is a factor of what keeps digital prices high, and its weird to have to type that obviousness out -
askew 24,121 posts
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Registered 16 years agoGood for consumers -
If the game you want isn't cheaper or not available on cdkeys, you can buy MS credit for 2% cashback via quidco. Then buy the game you want from the MS store using said credit for a further (currently) 7% cashback. OK, it's not much in the grand scheme of things, but every little helps and all that. -
Armoured_Bear 31,233 posts
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Registered 10 years agoDevil May Cry is 19.99 3 months after release digital, not sure where Bichii is looking. -
Carlo 21,801 posts
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Registered 16 years agoArmoured_Bear wrote:
Well I think we do in that case, because you're equating convenience with modern when you suggesting having a disk slot made it look antiquated.
Carlo wrote:
I don't think we need to do the same old argument.
Armoured_Bear wrote:
I've never found it cheaper going digital. And I can't resell it.
mothercruncher wrote:
Point being that you don't have to pay full price going digital, even if you insist on buying day one, you can usually find it a bit cheaper. Wait a few months and you get PSN stuff for relative peanuts.
Armoured_Bear wrote:
Never done it apart from that time I did it.
BigOrkWaaagh wrote:
I'm digital only and don't think I've ever paid 60 quid for a game, maybe BoTW and that's it.
fontgeeksogood wrote:
So you don't have to pay £59.99 for a game
Why does it still have a disc slot. It looks like an antique before it is launched
They will take the opportunity to hike prices a touch next gen. I’ll bet £60 for a digital game will be the new minimum.
Awful name too, indistinct. But indicative of the iterative nature of consoles now.
With digital, you lose the trade-in or resale value and gain convenience.
Depends what you prioritise, for me, the convenience is well worth it and as I rarely buy games day one, I usually pay bugger all during PSN sales.
I just bought RE3 for 15.99, God of War for 15 quid, Horizon: ZD for 12.99 etc.
It's nothing of the sort, if anything it's restrictive. Also it severly limites the consumer for the franctional cost increase having one provides. -
Also, it's for playing the films innit. -
Your-Mother 8,172 posts
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Registered 5 years agoGuys remember how game prices suffered when Steam killed off PC physical media. -
Frogofdoom 17,973 posts
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Registered 9 years agoThe environmental claim is dependent on peoples internet connection and if the console is awake or sleeping while its downloading so it's far from a fact. Also if the person is travelling to a store or having a game delivered.
Also the amount of electricity you consume whilst playing the games means citing the environment in a discussion about game prices isnt the smartest as your favourite hobby is shite for the planet.
Who knew that things were complex and cant just be made into a statement that physical games are bad.
Edited by Frogofdoom at 16:00:27 16-12-2019 -
Carlo 21,801 posts
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Registered 16 years agonickthegun wrote:
I bought 3 years worth, and use it in a similar way as you, but I'm under no illusion that the temporary cost we're enjoying now will be kept in the future, especially if this also allows them to remove the ability to buy and sell games once completed.
Since I got XBGP, I haven’t bought a game so digital = cheaper.
In fact, I’m so impressed with the PC version, I would probably go with this over a PS5, barring some increased parity between platforms.
Removing a consumer choice is bad, so I'm glad to see 'the slot' still there -
Derblington 35,161 posts
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Registered 17 years agoFrogofdoom wrote:
Pick-up vs delivery is irrelevant - someone is travelling with it.
The environmental claim is dependent on peoples internet connection and if the console is awake or sleeping while its downloading so it's far from a fact. Also if the person is travelling to a store or having a game delivered.
Who knew that things were complex and cant just be made into a statement that physical games are bad.
And then add production of plastic items, and shipping to retail before the consumer is even included.
I don't think it's a stretch to conclude physical is worse on an environmental level. -
Your-Mother 8,172 posts
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Registered 5 years agorobthehermit wrote:
Most film purchases are digital first now Movies Anywhere has almost all the studios and digital sales come out up to a month before the physical release. I know Movies Anywhere isn’t really a thing in the UK yet but in the US market physical media for films is dying quickly. Places like Walmart or Target are stocking more Vudu/iTunes/Fandango redemption cards for new releases than discs.
Also, it's for playing the films innit. -
Derblington 35,161 posts
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Registered 17 years ago@Carlo
He didn't say it looked antiquated, that was PES. -
Armoured_Bear 31,233 posts
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Registered 10 years agoCarlo wrote:
I never mentioned the disk slot, I only disputed that digital means full price.
Armoured_Bear wrote:
Well I think we do in that case, because you're equating convenience with modern when you suggesting having a disk slot made it look antiquated.
Carlo wrote:
I don't think we need to do the same old argument.
Armoured_Bear wrote:
I've never found it cheaper going digital. And I can't resell it.
mothercruncher wrote:
Point being that you don't have to pay full price going digital, even if you insist on buying day one, you can usually find it a bit cheaper. Wait a few months and you get PSN stuff for relative peanuts.
Armoured_Bear wrote:
Never done it apart from that time I did it.
BigOrkWaaagh wrote:
I'm digital only and don't think I've ever paid 60 quid for a game, maybe BoTW and that's it.
fontgeeksogood wrote:
So you don't have to pay £59.99 for a game
Why does it still have a disc slot. It looks like an antique before it is launched
They will take the opportunity to hike prices a touch next gen. I’ll bet £60 for a digital game will be the new minimum.
Awful name too, indistinct. But indicative of the iterative nature of consoles now.
With digital, you lose the trade-in or resale value and gain convenience.
Depends what you prioritise, for me, the convenience is well worth it and as I rarely buy games day one, I usually pay bugger all during PSN sales.
I just bought RE3 for 15.99, God of War for 15 quid, Horizon: ZD for 12.99 etc.
It's nothing of the sort, if anything it's restrictive. Also it severly limites the consumer for the franctional cost increase having one provides. -
Ror 20,336 posts
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Registered 12 years agoIf digital prices were lower (not massively so, just a bit cheaper) than physical, you'd probably convince a lot more people to move over, leading to less second-hand sales.
Not everyone, obviously, as there will always be collectors or those who want to trade in old games against the purchase of new ones, but I think a decent chunk would move over (I'm aware the digital share is growing all the time, but I think you'd see more movement in the more price-conscious segments).
I think a lot of people that would move over question why a non-physical option costs more, when you aren't getting a physical item (I'm not arguing that the plastics and - rare - printed materials have value, but they do have cost)
As to the new consoles having a disc drive, it would be insane at this point to cut out probably half the market. By all means release a version without a disc drive, but having more options is rarely a bad thing.
Edited by Ror at 16:11:04 16-12-2019 -
Frogofdoom 17,973 posts
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Registered 9 years ago@Derblington no there are actual studies that show its dependant on lots of factors and not clear cut. Also delivery drivers are arguably already doing the route so it does make a difference. To argue a tiny little difference either way isnt a difference maker when you are burning a huge amount of power playing the game. -
Derblington wrote:
Aye, cheers.
@Carlo
He didn't say it looked antiquated, that was PES.
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