Xbox Series X Page 97

  • Technoishmatt 25 Sep 2020 09:59:21 4,624 posts
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    SnackPlissken wrote:
    Technoishmatt wrote:
    Do you know what is agonising?

    Trying to decide which of your pre orders to cancel :p
    I know what you mean. Neither console is offering much for me day one but I really want the performance increase and actually try 4k gaming.. I was going to cancel my PS5 if this All Access bollocks goings through but seems unlikely.
    Nah i just have two Series X, one at argos one at amazon. Wondering whichbone to cancel to make sure I get one.
  • Baihu1983 25 Sep 2020 10:01:52 12,850 posts
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    Amazon struggled with the Xbox One X launch so I've gone with argos this time
  • Britesparc 25 Sep 2020 10:05:02 2,151 posts
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    @Baihu1983 Nope, it's this or bust.

    SSD prices are very high at the moment, but they're expected to come down significantly in the next couple of years. The only thing that worries me a little is that, because this is a proprietry bit of kit, it'll always be more expensive than an off-the-shelf drive. Hopefully as more manufacturers are allowed to sell them and overall prices start to drop, MS will keep the price of the expansion in line and we won't be paying over the odds.
  • BigOrkWaaagh 25 Sep 2020 10:06:49 9,704 posts
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    Amazon also struggled with the 3DS launch.
  • Derblington 25 Sep 2020 10:09:14 34,075 posts
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    @Britesparc
    Will other companies be allowed to sell them? It's a MS/Seagate partnership for the expansion cards, isn't it?
  • Fourwisemen 25 Sep 2020 10:10:51 970 posts
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    @britesparc

    Britesparc wrote:
    richardiox wrote:
    People who are saying the £200 SSD expansion is essential for the S are speaking shit.
    I wouldn't put it quite so bluntly, but I think this is true: more than 500gb is obviously nice, but I don't see why you need it unless you're manically flipping between dozens of huge AAA games.

    Out of interest, I decided to see how my hard drive was composed. I have a launch Xbox One with, in total, just under 1gb of available space. I currently have 52 games installed, of various sizes. Of those, about 20 or so get played relatively regulalry by me or my family. So there's easy culling that could obviously be done if I was buying a Series S.

    In fact, out of games that we regularly play, I have one game over 100gb (Halo: MCC), about half a dozen in the 30-50gb range, and then the rest are under 20gb, most of which are under 10gb. Some of the games that get the strongest workout are comparatively tiny, like Stardew Valley or Minecraft. And I have over 100gb free.

    Now I have young kids which might skew things on the "small game" front (they play a lot of XBLA stuff) but all the same I think living within 500gb - especially if you can stick all your back-compat games on a cheap passport drive - is very doable.

    This is my thinking exactly. Before selling my One X, I did a bit of a cull and transferred the remainders to a 2tb HDD.

    Iíll happily play this stuff from there and just have the active Series X stuff on the internal.

    Should be fine for a good while that way.

    Edited by Fourwisemen at 10:11:34 25-09-2020
  • Britesparc 25 Sep 2020 10:15:43 2,151 posts
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    @Derblington I think Seagate has an exclusive for about a year. I've definitely read some reports that say others will be allowed to sell them eventually and even MS's own blog says something like "beginning with Seagate" or words to that effect.

    I'm looking forward to the Tesco Smarprice ones in 2022.
  • imamazed 25 Sep 2020 10:19:03 6,483 posts
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    Holding out for Essetail Waitrose
  • mothercruncher 25 Sep 2020 10:55:07 18,124 posts
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    We don't know what the allocation was, but potentially did quite well in Japan-

    https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/japans-initial-xbox-series-x-s-pre-orders-have-quickly-sold-out-everywhere/
  • binky Moderator 25 Sep 2020 11:01:25 11,079 posts
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    From the front page:

    And what about for the Xbox Series S, then? Microsoft's answer below suggests that while you may fill a 512GB SSD faster than a 1TB one, Xbox Series S game sizes will be smaller.

    "A significant portion of the overall size of a game is comprised of texture data," Ronald continues. "As Xbox Series S was designed with a performance target of 1440p at 60 FPS with support for up to 120 FPS, many games will not require their highest level of 4K textures resulting in smaller game sizes overall, often up to 30 per cent smaller on average."


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    This is interesting to me as I've ordered an X over S because I wanted the 1TB, the disc drive and extra flops. I do not, nor will I have in the next 2 years (probably) a 4K TV.

    If game sizes are smaller on S over X will I get the option to choose not to be pulling down 4k textures?
  • Baihu1983 25 Sep 2020 11:08:27 12,850 posts
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    mothercruncher wrote:
    We don't know what the allocation was, but potentially did quite well in Japan-

    https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/japans-initial-xbox-series-x-s-pre-orders-have-quickly-sold-out-everywhere/

    Sold out in India as well in less than 15 minutes but again don't know the allocation
  • Phattso 25 Sep 2020 11:12:02 25,939 posts
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    binky wrote:
    If game sizes are smaller on S over X will I get the option to choose not to be pulling down 4k textures?
    I don't think so. X will get the full enchilada, S will get the lower res textures.

    FWIW, you'll get a nice bit of supersampling on your 1080p. It'll render internally at 4K and then shrink to fit. That looks quite a bit better than native 1080p. So it's not all wasted. :)
  • mikew1985 25 Sep 2020 11:35:13 14,934 posts
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    It's handled by "smart delivery" the cdn looks at your console id abs decides which version is best matched to your console type so effectively series s will automatically download the smaller title without any need for input from you.
  • beastmaster 25 Sep 2020 12:40:12 21,395 posts
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    Cancelled my PS5 pre-order. Just too much of an outlay as I'd ordered console, three games, second controller, pulse headphones and media remote. Yes, I could have cut down and ordered the console with just one or two games but considering the amount of time I'm on the Pro (never) I just decided against it. It can wait till 2021.

    Just got the Series X on pre-order and nothing else. Already got lots of controllers. Not got Game Pass so no idea how much it is or what it entails. I think I've still got something that I got with the One X regarding a sub for it. I'll take a look.

    Just been looking. Forza Horizon 4 has smart delivery as does Sea of Thieves and Gears 5. So they'll have to be copied over to the internal SSD.

    https://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-series-x-games-list

    Will go for Watch Dogs: Legion and maybe The Falconer. Those will keep me going for a while.

    A super shiny 4K, ray-traced version of Geometry Wars wouldn't go amiss.
  • TenderChicken 25 Sep 2020 14:29:12 3,539 posts
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    @beastmaster falconeer, Forza Horizon 4 and Sea of Thieves are all on Gamepass, so you may as well get it!

    I've got both consoles pre-ordered and like you my PS Pro doesn't get used much compared to the Xbox. The PS5 will be a Demon's Souls machine for the first part of its life.
  • beastmaster 25 Sep 2020 14:41:09 21,395 posts
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    I already own Forza and Thieves. No mention of The Witcher in that list but I know there's an upgrade for that.
  • Oldsheppy 25 Sep 2020 15:52:37 48 posts
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    Anyone any ideas when there will be more pre-orders available? Was messing about on the Smyth's website so long on the day trying to do the all access offer then kept getting knocked back with my PayPal/ card payment loads of times on the Microsoft site , eventually out of stock. Very frustrating.
  • robthehermit 25 Sep 2020 16:08:05 7,985 posts
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    @Oldsheppy About 10 days before launch when everyone who's ordered 2 "just to be on the safe side" cancel one of them so they don't end up paying for it.
  • robthehermit 25 Sep 2020 16:09:05 7,985 posts
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    And Microsoft discover they've actually only sold 3 consoles.
  • SnackPlissken 25 Sep 2020 16:28:51 2,180 posts
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    Well at least I know now never to order anything from Smyths again. I'll be surprised if they actually send out consoles to people.
  • SnowmanRR 25 Sep 2020 17:44:07 208 posts
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    Football Manager confirmed as a launch title...just what I ordered the Series X for!!
  • Baihu1983 25 Sep 2020 17:52:40 12,850 posts
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    I'll likely get Tetris as well
  • spookyxelectric 25 Sep 2020 18:09:09 197 posts
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    That list says 30fps for Valhalla, but didn't they already say it's 4k60? You'd think so either way, considering the past two games were already 4k30 on the One X, and this barely looks any better than those. Unless that 30fps is with ray-tracing, that has to be a mistake, right?
  • Blackmarsh63 25 Sep 2020 18:16:41 3,724 posts
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    @spookyxelectric Ubi saying it will be "at least 30fps" @ 4k
  • richarddavies 25 Sep 2020 18:17:10 7,943 posts
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    32fps confirmed.
  • spookyxelectric 25 Sep 2020 18:19:39 197 posts
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    That same site has this article.

    https://www.windowscentral.com/assassins-creed-valhalla-runs-4k-60-xbox-series-x-ubisoft

    😤
  • Blackmarsh63 25 Sep 2020 18:20:23 3,724 posts
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    Odyssey struggles to get 4k/60 on Nvidia's new 3080 so 32fps is probably near the mark :)
  • BigOrkWaaagh 25 Sep 2020 18:53:57 9,704 posts
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    Blackmarsh63 wrote:
    Odyssey struggles to get 4k/60 on Nvidia's new 3080 so 32fps is probably near the mark :)
    Presumably that's on Ultra with everything turned up to silly though.
  • hedben2013 26 Sep 2020 09:24:29 1,730 posts
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    beastmaster wrote:

    A super shiny 4K, ray-traced version of Geometry Wars wouldn't go amiss.
    Oh my god this this this. Do the current Geometry Wars games have 4K packs for the One X? Because if they do that's the first thing I'm trying when I (finally) get a 4K TV next month.
  • Malek86 26 Sep 2020 10:23:13 10,766 posts
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    hedben2013 wrote:
    Oh my god this this this. Do the current Geometry Wars games have 4K packs for the One X? Because if they do that's the first thing I'm trying when I (finally) get a 4K TV next month.
    Not that I know of, but even just auto HDR could be impressive.
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