Xbox Series X Page 3

  • Malek86 13 Dec 2019 09:40:02 10,177 posts
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    Derblington wrote:
    Which is impossible for everyone that already owns one, so would make it the dumbest thing to do to new models - how would they message that some Xs are new and some are old, and the capabilities of each are wildly different?

    I can't see the current machines being an entry way to new games unless they're developing every game on all platforms, which means you'd also be able to use all current gen models. It's a messaging shit show.
    Simple, by not calling it X.

    Even if a cheaper model does come out, I bet it won't be the X1X. It's probably safe to assume that once Xbox One support dwindles, so will X1X support. It was a short gen after all, but that's the problem with mid-gen refreshes. After all, people seem very willing to upgrade their smartphones every year nowadays too.

    Edited by Malek86 at 09:40:47 13-12-2019
  • DangerousDave_87 13 Dec 2019 09:41:07 6,811 posts
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    The name might work if they go with Series X on its own, but time will tell. If folk genuinely found Wii U confusing as a name, this is every bit as confusing.
  • Psiloc 13 Dec 2019 09:44:48 5,532 posts
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    DangerousDave_87 wrote:
    The name might work if they go with Series X on its own, but time will tell. If folk genuinely found Wii U confusing as a name, this is every bit as confusing.
    They definitely did. To this day when I try to talk about Wii U games to my gamer friends - usually mentioning the latest Switch port or something - they always ask me what the fuck it was.

    "Some sort of add on to the Wii wasn't it?"

    I've literally had a friend ask me that while they were holding it in their hands
  • Malek86 13 Dec 2019 09:48:28 10,177 posts
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    I still say the failure to recognize the Wii U as a new console wasn't just due to the name. Sure, that didn't help, but overall it simply showed that the Wii's audience wasn't interested enough in console games anymore to actually get informed anyway. Even if they had called it something different and catchy, it probably would have failed to attract its intended audience all the same, since they had since moved onto smartphone games like Angry Birds.

    Not that Xbox Series is a less ridiculous name, but I don't think the name will be that much of a factor for its eventual success or failure.

    Edited by Malek86 at 09:50:44 13-12-2019
  • Derblington 13 Dec 2019 09:51:45 33,430 posts
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    Malek86 wrote:
    Derblington wrote:
    Which is impossible for everyone that already owns one, so would make it the dumbest thing to do to new models - how would they message that some Xs are new and some are old, and the capabilities of each are wildly different?

    I can't see the current machines being an entry way to new games unless they're developing every game on all platforms, which means you'd also be able to use all current gen models. It's a messaging shit show.
    Simple, by not calling it X.

    Even if a cheaper model does come out, I bet it won't be the X1X. It's probably safe to assume that once Xbox One support dwindles, so will X1X support. It was a short gen after all, but that's the problem with mid-gen refreshes. After all, people seem very willing to upgrade their smartphones every year nowadays too.
    So what you're saying is that they make an entirely new machine that isn't the X as a base entry point to next gen. Gotcha.
  • Carlo 13 Dec 2019 09:56:14 21,324 posts
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    XBox Series S (Cutdown with DVD)
    XBox Series E (Cutdown, Diskless)
    XBox Series X (Top model, with DVD)
    XBox Series Y (Top Model, Diskless)

    Tesla will do their nut, but Microsoft'll just laugh at them.
  • Malek86 13 Dec 2019 09:57:17 10,177 posts
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    @Derblington yeah. The CPU difference alone would make things very annoying for devs. If they really want to mantain a healthy two-machines model, they will have to be similar in most respects. I mean, they could perhaps re-use the X1X GPU perhaps, maybe as a die shrink revision. But nothing else.

    Things were already bad enough with the S after the X came out, although in that case, most games were made on the base PS4 so they had to deal with that exact CPU anyway. But with a new gen, that would be the best chance for a clean slate.

    Or they could keep the X as the base entry point, but if you ask me, that would be a very bad idea.
  • Graxlar_v3 13 Dec 2019 10:14:21 10,225 posts
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    Carlo wrote:
    XBox Series S (Cutdown with DVD)
    XBox Series E (Cutdown, Diskless)
    XBox Series X (Top model, with DVD)
    XBox Series Y (Top Model, Diskless)

    Tesla will do their nut, but Microsoft'll just laugh at them.
    Sexy :)
  • JamboWayOh 13 Dec 2019 10:20:33 20,053 posts
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    If there's no HD DVD add on then I'm out.
  • Technoishmatt 13 Dec 2019 11:07:15 4,285 posts
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    I dont think there will be a cutdown version yet, but could be a streaming version.

    Remember games will work on this gen, the mid gen and next gen, so things are different.

    They dont need people to upgrade they need them to subscribe.

    Edited by Technoishmatt at 11:07:30 13-12-2019
  • JamboWayOh 13 Dec 2019 11:13:18 20,053 posts
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    Technoishmatt wrote:
    I dont think there will be a cutdown version yet, but could be a streaming version.

    Remember games will work on this gen, the mid gen and next gen, so things are different.

    They dont need people to upgrade they need them to subscribe.
    I think it's heavily rumoured that there are two next gen xboxes, the lower cost one is possibly discless.
  • Razz 13 Dec 2019 11:14:06 726 posts
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  • Psychotext 13 Dec 2019 11:17:45 67,182 posts
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    Sold!
  • PazJohnMitch 13 Dec 2019 11:18:34 16,007 posts
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    I am expecting them to launch with 2 versions.

    An all singing full version for 500 and a cut down version with no disc drive for 300.

    I think they will want to be able to advertise that they have the most powerful console and also the cheapest next gen console.
  • Huggybear 13 Dec 2019 11:21:41 1,740 posts
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    up_the_ante wrote:
    Fifa, Forza and Halo in the trailer? Yay, another generation of the same franchises
    Don't worry, I'm sure there will also be another Gears of War game as well, eventually.

    Oh, and one (1) token indie game just so they can claim they have new exclusive IPs.

    They should have called it "Xbox NeXt" because what they've done here isn't nearly American enough.
  • MrFlay 13 Dec 2019 11:21:55 4,506 posts
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    It's a needlessly confusing name. Just call it the Xbox Two or Xbox Squared. I'm still getting one though. I'm in too far now to stop.
  • Graxlar_v3 13 Dec 2019 11:25:05 10,225 posts
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    PazJohnMitch wrote:
    I am expecting them to launch with 2 versions.

    An all singing full version for 500 and a cut down version with no disc drive for 300.

    I think they will want to be able to advertise that they have the most powerful console and also the cheapest next gen console.
    You might want to think about sticking another 100 on both of those prices.
  • Graxlar_v3 13 Dec 2019 11:27:17 10,225 posts
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    Also, I thought current thinking was... will it fit under a TV, yes = Good, no = Bad

    This is very much Bad
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 13 Dec 2019 11:37:11 25,648 posts
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    Fuck me just looked at what it actually looks like. Where the hell you supposed to put that thing?
  • Carlo 13 Dec 2019 11:39:12 21,324 posts
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    Decks wrote:
    Fuck me just looked at what it actually looks like. Where the hell you supposed to put that thing?
    Anything's a dildo in you're brave enough
  • paulboy81 13 Dec 2019 11:44:37 345 posts
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    Name's shite, but I like the design, completely impractical mind you, but it looks nice, kinda like a sexy double height GameCube.
  • BigOrkWaaagh 13 Dec 2019 11:46:45 9,448 posts
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    Carlo wrote:
    Decks wrote:
    Fuck me just looked at what it actually looks like. Where the hell you supposed to put that thing?
    Anything's a dildo in you're brave enough
    Paige?
  • Carlo 13 Dec 2019 11:49:11 21,324 posts
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    Where's the space shuttle transporter photoshop with the Xbox LaXBox?!
  • b-rk 13 Dec 2019 11:51:58 1,278 posts
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    Razz wrote:
    What goes in that huge slot.
  • Deleted user 13 December 2019 12:02:10
    Wow, not only is it a woeful name, it's a woeful design too. Jesus, how can they get that all so wrong?
  • PazJohnMitch 13 Dec 2019 12:05:39 16,007 posts
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    Graxlar_v3 wrote:
    PazJohnMitch wrote:
    I am expecting them to launch with 2 versions.

    An all singing full version for 500 and a cut down version with no disc drive for 300.

    I think they will want to be able to advertise that they have the most powerful console and also the cheapest next gen console.
    You might want to think about sticking another 100 on both of those prices.
    Yeah. I think you are probably right.

    Edited by PazJohnMitch at 12:06:07 13-12-2019
  • BigOrkWaaagh 13 Dec 2019 12:05:43 9,448 posts
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    b-rk wrote:
    Razz wrote:
    What goes in that huge slot.
    Pizza
  • macmurphy 13 Dec 2019 12:10:50 4,286 posts
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    BigOrkWaaagh wrote:
    Carlo wrote:
    Decks wrote:
    Fuck me just looked at what it actually looks like. Where the hell you supposed to put that thing?
    Anything's a dildo in you're brave enough
    Paige?
    😂
  • b-rk 13 Dec 2019 12:13:39 1,278 posts
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    @BigOrkWaaagh

    Ok. Ok nice.
  • JamboWayOh 13 Dec 2019 12:26:19 20,053 posts
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    AaronTurner wrote:
    Wow, not only is it a woeful name, it's a woeful design too. Jesus, how can they get that all so wrong?
    If it doesn't sound like a fucking hoover I'm ok with that. Ps4 was pretty svelte but my god, you paid the price for it.

    Edited by JamboWayOh at 12:35:56 13-12-2019
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