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Wayne 2,316 posts
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Britesparc 2,220 posts
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Registered 14 years agoI played it around Christmas and it was silky smooth, but even though it was theoretically 120fps I couldn't see any obvious boost beyond the 60 it had been before.
I am very, very bad at judging frame rate however, unless I'm literally flipping back and forth between two modes.
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Baihu1983 13,130 posts
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Registered 9 years agoMK11 Ultimate looks and plays great on Series X -
mothercruncher 18,715 posts
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Registered 14 years agoWeren’t there multiplayer games where the frame rate was tied to ping back in the day? Network might have been strangling your frames man... -
Wayne 2,316 posts
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Registered 15 years ago@Britesparc I can easily spot the difference between 30 and 60, but recently had two TVs side by side with Ori running on them, one at 60 and one at 120, and I couldn't see a noticeable difference. -
nickthegun 84,512 posts
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Registered 15 years agoIs anyone having any sound issues? Outputting to Bitstream Dolby Digital seems to introduce a fair chunk of lag.
And the sound keeps cutting out. It seems like, every so often, when you boot a game and it checks what format the sound output is in, the whole thing turns off, no game sounds, no system noises until you change the output settings to something else which seems to reset it. -
Britesparc 2,220 posts
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Registered 14 years ago@Wayne If I play a game at 60 I can sort of feel that it's a bit smoother, but I certainly don't have that thing that a lot of people on her go on about, where it's a night-and-day difference and so much better, etc. It's more just that the camera feels it's whipping past a bit faster.
When I got my Series X I flitted between 30 and 60 on Fallen Order and I actually found I preferred the 30 "quality" mode, because there was something about that game that felt filmic, and the 60fps mode to me felt like watching a movie with motion smoothing on.
I did the same thing with Star Wars Squadrons, going between 60 and 120, and again I did notice that the 120 mode was smoother and faster, but I reckon if you booted the game up cold and asked me to tell you which mode it was in I wouldn't be able to do it (in Squadron's case I've stuck with 120fps as I prefer the very slightly faster feel to the controls). -
Phattso 26,479 posts
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Registered 17 years ago120fps is less likely to be something you're going to see so much as something you're going to feel when you're actually playing it. That's why it's sometimes worth sacrificing some visual fidelity to hit the higher refresh rate. Or go on PC and both have the cake and eat it, obvs. -
Britesparc 2,220 posts
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Registered 14 years agoWhen I'm saying I "noticed" it, I'm mostly talking about the feel of it tbh. I don't "feel" that 60fps is so night-and-day different to 30, not the way others seem to.
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Phattso 26,479 posts
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Registered 17 years agoDepends on the genre, but it's telling that a bunch of people who previously claimed not to care or notice are shitting their pants with glee at Valhalla at 60. .gif)
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imamazed 6,551 posts
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Registered 14 years agoI thought Quality mode on Fallen Order on series x was 60fps, because the toggle is meant for One X and is just running on more powerful hardware? I completed it on Quality mode and it seemed very smooth to me - not a fps freak though. -
Phattso 26,479 posts
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Registered 17 years agoI'm not a high FPS zealot by any stretch - plenty of awesome games that run at 30. But when you get something at 60 or higher, it really is lovely. Can't imagine many games that wouldn't be improved through being more responsive, even if only in the camera controls. -
Wayne 2,316 posts
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Registered 15 years ago@Phattso I would've been in that frame of mind (forgive the pun) about six months ago. But at this stage, I've been playing so much 60fps stuff recently that it's really jarring going back to 30fps. -
Britesparc 2,220 posts
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Registered 14 years agom not a high FPS zealot by any stretch - plenty of awesome games that run at 30. But when you get something at 60 or higher, it really is lovely. Can't imagine many games that wouldn't be improved through being more responsive, even if only in the camera controls.
I'd probably agree with you TBH, it's just not something I'm evangelical about. I mean, even on the Xbox One, I knew there were games like Halo and Doom that ran at 60fps, and I could sort of tell, but I didn't inherently prefer those experiences to 30fps games. I guess if you could have, say, Cyberpunk looking exactly like it does on Series X but also running at 60fps that'd probably be nice, but a game like that I'll trade frames for graphics as long as it's still smooth.
And I've gotta say, one of the things I've noticed with the Series X - coming from a launch Xbox One - is how smooth pretty much everything is. Every game runs gorgeous. I know quite a few will have jumped from 30 to 60 with the upgrade but I also think I must have been just absorbing a lot of jankiness and frame-jumping on the Xbox One!
I would've been in that frame of mind (forgive the pun) about six months ago. But at this stage, I've been playing so much 60fps stuff recently that it's really jarring going back to 30fps.
I do wonder if this is also true, and if I went back to my Xbox One in a year's time I'd be horrified and find a load of games unplayable!
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Phattso 26,479 posts
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Registered 17 years agoYeah, the OG One was a shitbox. That you lasted so long shows that you're not too fussed by those things. The vast majority of people out there are doubtless exactly the same.
But... BUT! Now that you've had the stability, the high responsiveness, etc. etc. it'll be interesting to see how you feel going back when the real next gen games arrive and 30fps is the norm again. Should be interesting.
I've gone around that loop so many times in my several decades of gaming. -
Phattso 26,479 posts
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Registered 17 years agoWayne wrote:
You'll be surprised. I'm going between the Series X and playing TLOU2 on my base PS4. TLOU2 hasn't magically become a shit game in the interim on the basis of its 30fps*.
@Phattso I would've been in that frame of mind (forgive the pun) about six months ago. But at this stage, I've been playing so much 60fps stuff recently that it's really jarring going back to 30fps.
* it's shit for other reasons, like being fucking miserable, having predictable gameplay, and being about a million hours to long :-D -
Phattso 26,479 posts
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Registered 17 years agoAnyway - none of this is solving Nick's audio issue!
nickthegun wrote:
Is anyone having any sound issues? Outputting to Bitstream Dolby Digital seems to introduce a fair chunk of lag.
And the sound keeps cutting out. It seems like, every so often, when you boot a game and it checks what format the sound output is in, the whole thing turns off, no game sounds, no system noises until you change the output settings to something else which seems to reset it. -
Britesparc 2,220 posts
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Registered 14 years agoTalking of Jedi Fallen Order, it's getting a bit of a next-gen spit and polish: https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order/amp/news/next-gen-optimization-update -
richarddavies 8,107 posts
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Registered 12 years agoBritesparc wrote:
Nice,
Talking of Jedi Fallen Order, it's getting a bit of a next-gen spit and polish: https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order/amp/news/next-gen-optimization-update
I've owned it nearly a year, but I only got to the first planet then got distracted with other stuff. Gives me an excuse to go back to it. -
Wayne 2,316 posts
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Registered 15 years ago@Phattso TLOU2 was my fav game of the last generation. Absolutely loved it. -
Wayne 2,316 posts
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Registered 15 years agoBritesparc wrote:
Yesssss, I was literally waiting for this.
Talking of Jedi Fallen Order, it's getting a bit of a next-gen spit and polish: https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order/amp/news/next-gen-optimization-update -
richardiox 9,363 posts
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Registered 16 years agoBritesparc wrote:
Reads like it's already out? Will fire it up when I'm out of my Covid isolation.
Talking of Jedi Fallen Order, it's getting a bit of a next-gen spit and polish: https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order/amp/news/next-gen-optimization-update -
nickthegun 84,512 posts
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Registered 15 years agoPhattso wrote:
This guy!
Anyway - none of this is solving Nick's audio issue!
nickthegun wrote:
Is anyone having any sound issues? Outputting to Bitstream Dolby Digital seems to introduce a fair chunk of lag.
And the sound keeps cutting out. It seems like, every so often, when you boot a game and it checks what format the sound output is in, the whole thing turns off, no game sounds, no system noises until you change the output settings to something else which seems to reset it.
Its a weird one. The sound cutting out started after I started plugging headphones into the controller.
Which, tbh, is partly when I started to notice the enormous sound lag through the TV, too. -
richardiox 9,363 posts
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Registered 16 years ago@nickthegun
The phones jack on the new pad is fucking shit. Every pair of headphone I've tried crackles if I move the jack slightly.
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nickthegun 84,512 posts
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Registered 15 years agoNah, it randomly karks it completely even hours after headphones have been unplugged. Even when a headset plugged into the pad, it still outputs sound to HDMI (which is how you can hear the lag). This kills everything, sound to the pad, system sound, game sound, the lot.
Fwiw, the headphone jack has been fine for me. No crackles, really, its just a bit quiet. -
Baihu1983 13,130 posts
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Registered 9 years agorichardiox wrote:
Update is available
Britesparc wrote:
Reads like it's already out? Will fire it up when I'm out of my Covid isolation.
Talking of Jedi Fallen Order, it's getting a bit of a next-gen spit and polish: https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order/amp/news/next-gen-optimization-update -
Kilters 630 posts
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Registered 17 years ago@nickthegun
I've had games not resume sound properly when you quick resume. Have to quit game and restart. Has happened with Control, Prey and a couple of others. As for sound quality and lag, the headset plugged into the controller (Windows sonic option in settings) was ok but crackly for me. I bit the bullet and got a Steel series 7X which is very good.
Now I'm trialling DTS and Dolby Atmos but I've no idea if they are worth it and if they enhance all games or just some. The demo for both are impressive but once I load up a game I'm not sure if either are contributing anything.... -
richarddavies 8,107 posts
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Registered 12 years agoA new trailers out for the Medium focusing on the RTX features on the series X and personal computer.
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SiroccoJetProp 351 posts
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Registered 4 years ago@richarddavies that video doesn't mention which platform it's on but given that Nvidia gets a mention I assume it's PC.
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Actually I think you're right Mr jetprop. All I can find on the series version is:
The Medium Will Support RTX and DLSS on PC, Ray Tracing on Xbox Series X
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