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  • MightyPirate 4 Jan 2020 08:04:57 96 posts
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    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    I’m in Australia just now. Now miles away from the fires as I’m in Queensland. Last week though, in the Adelaide Hills my brother had to pick his kids up from childcare as fires were getting a bit close.
    Conversation with his wife , an educated Economist who seemed fairly progressive minded and comment such as “the world won’t end tomorrow” and “the media exaggerate “ came from her mouth, as her country burns around her.

    We’re fucked.
    To be fair, I think you'll find she's dead right on both counts.
  • Armoured_Bear 4 Jan 2020 12:16:59 27,867 posts
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    MightyPirate wrote:
    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    I’m in Australia just now. Now miles away from the fires as I’m in Queensland. Last week though, in the Adelaide Hills my brother had to pick his kids up from childcare as fires were getting a bit close.
    Conversation with his wife , an educated Economist who seemed fairly progressive minded and comment such as “the world won’t end tomorrow” and “the media exaggerate “ came from her mouth, as her country burns around her.

    We’re fucked.
    To be fair, I think you'll find she's dead right on both counts.
    What is the media exaggerating ?
  • MightyPirate 4 Jan 2020 12:32:06 96 posts
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    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    MightyPirate wrote:
    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    I’m in Australia just now. Now miles away from the fires as I’m in Queensland. Last week though, in the Adelaide Hills my brother had to pick his kids up from childcare as fires were getting a bit close.
    Conversation with his wife , an educated Economist who seemed fairly progressive minded and comment such as “the world won’t end tomorrow” and “the media exaggerate “ came from her mouth, as her country burns around her.

    We’re fucked.
    To be fair, I think you'll find she's dead right on both counts.
    What is the media exaggerating ?
    Seriously? You don't think the media exaggerate?
  • Mola_Ram 4 Jan 2020 12:40:25 22,150 posts
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    I think the thousand-plus people whose homes burned down might balk at the "media is exaggerating" argument.
  • dominalien 4 Jan 2020 12:41:17 9,388 posts
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    I think there’s an implied “in general” here.
  • Mola_Ram 4 Jan 2020 13:07:34 22,150 posts
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    I guess they do, for some things? But absent everyone hunting down and consuming scientific literature straight from the source, "the media" is probably the best option for getting accurate information about what's going on in the world. Who else would you trust? The government? Anonymous bloggers? Facebook friends?
  • ZuluHero 4 Jan 2020 13:19:39 7,855 posts
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    Slightly off topic, but the most relevant thread; Greta changes her twitter name to 'sharon' after a contestant on a gameshow tried to guess her name:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50989594
  • RobAnybody 4 Jan 2020 13:28:30 1,835 posts
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    For scale, this is an interesting image showing the areas burnt and covered by smoke in Australia relevant to Europe (the brown blob in the middle is the area covered by the fires, the far larger grey area is the smoke):

    https://i.redd.it/z180wjicdl841.jpg

    Edited by RobAnybody at 13:29:24 04-01-2020
  • Fake_Blood 4 Jan 2020 13:38:39 9,929 posts
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    I think they need to be upfront about the fact that if emissions go down by 40% worldwide we are not going to see the effects in our lifetime. I can totally see a few nations say “fuck it” when things keep getting progressively worse even beyond 2050.
  • sport 4 Jan 2020 13:55:13 15,489 posts
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    By my calculations, a global drop of 38.6% in emissions will see a benefit of 23 in about 5 years. That's net btw, not gross benefit.
  • johnnyrocketfingers 4 Jan 2020 14:14:16 200 posts
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    Fake_Blood wrote:
    I think they need to be upfront about the fact that if emissions go down by 40% worldwide we are not going to see the effects in our lifetime. I can totally see a few nations say “fuck it” when things keep getting progressively worse even beyond 2050.
    They are upfront about it. It's a standard FAQ entry for most science institutions that have climate change websites.
  • Fake_Blood 4 Jan 2020 14:26:17 9,929 posts
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    Well yes, but activists need to be upfront about it, even if it makes their message harder to sell.
  • johnnyrocketfingers 4 Jan 2020 14:29:30 200 posts
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    But why? Activism is to bring change so the only messaging they need to deal with is whatever helps bring change. It makes no sense to bring up aspects that do not benefit bringing about change.
  • Mola_Ram 14 Jan 2020 04:49:15 22,150 posts
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    Glol this is ridiculous. It's like there's a heavy fog around, only it's 30 degrees outside. And we're not remotely close to any fires.
  • Armoured_Bear 14 Jan 2020 05:08:18 27,867 posts
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    Mola_Ram wrote:
    Glol this is ridiculous. It's like there's a heavy fog around, only it's 30 degrees outside. And we're not remotely close to any fires.
    Whereabouts are you?
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