Following The General Purpose Japanese Games Thread! Page 3

  • Ror 21 Jan 2020 22:39:07 19,946 posts
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    @uiruki Cheers. I need to work my way up to it - though I do actually own them all, the last one I played was 3! I'd quite like to catch up before 7 comes west (as unlikely as it is that I will!), so I could see its take on Yokohama. It'll kind of be like a reverse-Kabukicho situation, where I visited there after having played a few Yakuzas and virtually wandered around Kamurocho. This time, I'll have been to the city in question first.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 22 Jan 2020 00:28:07 3,881 posts
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    Osaka and Sapporo were my reverse ones (at least the main street bit of Sapporo anyway, knew both areas of Osaka fairly well though).

    @Ror there is a demo of 7 on Japanese PSN if you want to wing it.
  • RyanDS 22 Jan 2020 09:52:46 13,182 posts
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    Fuck it. Bought Ai somnium last night on the switch.

    Fantastic and immediately you feel you are in the same world as danganronpa and zero escape. Played until 3am.

    Worth the £53 on the eshop.

    What are the chances of the other Phoenix wright games coming to the switch? Am tempted to pull out the rusty old 3ds otherwise.
  • Ror 22 Jan 2020 12:51:03 19,946 posts
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    @One_Vurfed_Gwrx Cheers, I might have a look, would be nice to have a virtual stroll through Yokohama.

    RE: AI, I wish I'd grabbed it when Game had it for £35 :(
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 22 Jan 2020 13:49:22 3,881 posts
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    Ror wrote:
    @One_Vurfed_Gwrx Cheers, I might have a look, would be nice to have a virtual stroll through Yokohama.

    RE: AI, I wish I'd grabbed it when Game had it for £35 :(
    PS4 one was £24.99 on the game collection recently (picking a formats is why I delayed getting the game but I went PS4 in the end) if it is still in stock.
  • Ror 23 Jan 2020 12:02:05 19,946 posts
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    The first two Utawarerumono games have hit Steam now. £30.99 each, but a 15% launch discount brings them down to £26.34.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 23 Jan 2020 15:20:37 3,881 posts
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    Technically number 2 and 3 in the series, although the original is coming later. I enjoyed the series and I imagine that the remake of the first game will be better without the unnecessary sex bits (and I don't just mean normal fan service) and with the combat engine revamped to match sequels. As long as NISA don't butcher the translation (or buy the fan translation I suppose).

    Received Romancing Saga 3 and Psikyo Shooting Stars Alpha today, the latter is a really nice little box for the price with a 3 disc soundtrack, 6 art cards, and a mini schematics art book for the price of a normal switch game (sub40 if you look around). RS3 is plain empty box but looking forward to playing it.
  • uiruki 23 Jan 2020 15:24:51 5,149 posts
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    I loved RS3. I wasnít able to get into 2 because of the way it did the generations - I canít let go of characters - but 3 doesnít have that. Even playing with a guide it was full of unexpected twists and events. Loads of things that have stayed with me, much like Scarlet Grace in fact.
  • Ror 23 Jan 2020 16:08:29 19,946 posts
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    @One_Vurfed_Gwrx Yes, thanks for the correction - I did actually know that (see the OP), but made that post quickly before heading out. Oops.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 23 Jan 2020 16:22:05 3,881 posts
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    uiruki wrote:
    I loved RS3. I wasnít able to get into 2 because of the way it did the generations - I canít let go of characters - but 3 doesnít have that. Even playing with a guide it was full of unexpected twists and events. Loads of things that have stayed with me, much like Scarlet Grace in fact.
    I am hoping RS3 physical does well enough to get a physical of 2 too. Scarlet Grace would be nice as well ;)

    Edit - Last Remnant Switch too, even though I finally fi sihed it on PC last year. SaGa game in disguise...

    Edited by One_Vurfed_Gwrx at 16:35:33 23-01-2020
  • Ror 24 Jan 2020 22:04:09 19,946 posts
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    I decided to pick up my semi-abandoned P4G save file (second time trying to get through it), and I'm pretty sure I just fought the Tokyo Skytree...
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 25 Jan 2020 10:17:44 3,881 posts
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    P4G got me through the night times when there was nothing to see from the train on my long train trip accross Russia back in 2014... It also taught me that if the charging supply isn't great the Vita touch screen stops working while charging and there is no way past the startup without it... (I initially feared it had died)

    Weird how I associate a few games with certain trips. Etrian Odyssey 1 on DS I did a lot of it doing the slow (cheap) Seishun ticket from Osaka to Tokyo and back...
  • Rogueywon Most Generous Forumite, 2016 25 Jan 2020 10:26:13 8,355 posts
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    P4G is a great game, though of the three "modern" Persona games, I'd rank 4 the lowest. I got through a good chunk of it during a long trip to the US shortly after it launched. Got me through a lot of evenings in a hotel in a business park in the middle of nowhere, when the closest thing approximating civilisation was a 45 minute drive away.

    I also tend to associate some portable games with certain trips. Fire Emblem Fates got me through another multi-week stint abroad with work.
  • Ror 25 Jan 2020 14:27:17 19,946 posts
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    Seriously though, this is literally Tokyo Skytree.

  • dominalien 25 Jan 2020 18:47:29 9,536 posts
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    Well, it is the tv.
  • rice_sandwich 27 Jan 2020 06:42:18 6,426 posts
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    Completed my first visual novel, Raging Loop. It was a decently intriguing experience, the plot has many, many twists and turns, some expected, some not. The plot is incredibly, massively convoluted and requires a certain suspension of belief, which is fair enough, given the central theme. The main character is some kind of slightly deranged sociopath.

    By regular novel standards, the quality of the writing is well, well l below average, but for a video game, where many bad endings and do overs had to be accounted for, it is acceptable, though in no way approaching anything that could be called good. I do not at all recommend VNs as your main reading fare unless you want brain damage.

    Pacing is uneven, with a slow start, decently paced middle and an exposition laden final third. I found the ending a little disappointing but not unexpected. The characters are stereotypical, plucked right out of a beginner's guide to archetypes but I didn't mind that.

    The first person perspective works well and doesn't distance the player from the plot. In fact it's quite necessary in order to provide sufficient explanation of what's going on.

    Additionally, no reasonable person would make some of the offered choices and a second person narrative might see things stall due to a lack of immersion.The plot went on a couple of hours too long imo. I guess I spent 10-12 hours on it.

    There's a decent chunk of post story content and bonus features. I feel the game is good enough to invest some time learning a bit more about the story. Decent value at its current £15 (physical price) on Switch. I'd be less keen to pay the full retail price of £25.

    7/10.

    Edited by rice_sandwich at 06:58:11 27-01-2020
  • Malek86 27 Jan 2020 11:55:21 9,979 posts
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    @rice_sandwich if you want a visual novel that is generally better than usual, I'd suggest 428: Shibuya Scramble. Only available on PS4 and PC unfortunately, but it's often on sale.

    After all, if you are unsure about a certain genre, it's probably a good idea to stick to the best it has to offer.
  • dominalien 27 Jan 2020 12:11:24 9,536 posts
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    I second Shibuya Scramble. Though my personal VN highlight have to be 999/VLR/ZTD, better even than Steins;Gate. I found the puzzles nicely broke up all the reading (and vice versa).
  • rice_sandwich 27 Jan 2020 12:31:01 6,426 posts
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    Thanks for the suggestion. I don't have a ps4 and I don't see myself playing a VN at a pc unless it's one that is heavilt puzzle focused. Reading lots of text while sitting at a desktop pc is not my idea of fun.
  • Malek86 27 Jan 2020 12:41:24 9,979 posts
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    If you have an old iPhone or iPad, you could download Banshee's Last Cry. It's the only available localized version of the most successful visual novel ever made, and of course it only works on devices without the iOS 11 update.

    Edited by Malek86 at 12:42:44 27-01-2020
  • Ror 27 Jan 2020 13:13:15 19,946 posts
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    Get Steins;Gate. I don't know how Elite is compared to the original, but it's probably my favourite story in a game ever.

    Also, tangentially related: Noooooooooooooooooooooo
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 27 Jan 2020 13:43:34 3,881 posts
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    From what I gather Elite has most of the content, just displayed in the anime style over the original VN style. I bought it for LBP but may play it one day.

    As for recommendations for rice_sandwich, have you played Death Mark and Spirit Hunter NG? Both on Switch and fitting in with the horror theme of your last game. Not as pure VN either as you get to explore and a bit of point and click adventuring. I enjoyed them both (played DM on Vita, but Switch has an extra chapter I didn't get to play, and NG on Switch). Both are available physically too, although may not be the cheapest as NG seemed to get a very under the radar release (I actually Preordered it).

    I would mention Yu-No as an interesting story and framework with a lot more interaction than most VNs but it is really not suitable for anywhere with an audience (it is a remake of the VN that first pushed story over porn into VNs so has some Crossover elements, even though it is mild and console edited)

    Like others say 428 is great, but sadly no PC demo available. It has a lot of reading but it is short bursts before choices so worked fine on a TV for me on PS4 (I would have liked it handheld but the choice wasn't there, maybe one day SpikeChubsoft will port it to Switch). If you have access to someone else's PS4 it may be worth checking out the demo to see the style.
  • uiruki 29 Jan 2020 22:25:18 5,149 posts
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    Finished RGG (amazing) so started Ryza tonight. Only an hour in but I like the battle system, very different to traditional Atelier. Going from a 30fps game to one running between 90 and 120 is weird on the eyes though!
  • Ror 29 Jan 2020 23:18:10 19,946 posts
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    Finally got my Switch back yesterday morning, so was able to start Tokyo Mirage Sessions. I'm only a few hours in, but I'm really enjoying it so far (especially running about Shibuya, which actually feels reasonably faithful).

    My only gripe at this point is the fact that none of the battle dialogue is subtitled and my extremely basic Japanese can only take me so far!
  • Rogueywon Most Generous Forumite, 2016 29 Jan 2020 23:21:09 8,355 posts
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    @Ror Yeah, that's a frequent annoyance with mid-tier Japanese games... that if you play with Japanese voices, cutscenes are subtitled, but battle-dialogue isn't. Shouldn't really be acceptable.

    Fortunately, I gather the battle dialogue in TMS isn't much more exciting than generic "let's do it", "let's get them" stuff. But I've seen games where it's a more serious problem. Generally expect it in Compile Heart/Idea Factory titles rather than something with a Nintendo franchise on the cover, though.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 30 Jan 2020 01:41:48 3,881 posts
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    From what I recall from my playthrough of TMS all battle dialogue was just the sort of generic phrases listed above and the odd boss death speech which was usually a line that had been mentioned already so didn't conceal any info.

    I did enjoy the game a lot though. Think it is my highest playtime on WiiU (Not played Breath of the Wild too far and only midway through Xenoblade X)

    As for RGG7, nice to see good feedback. I imagine we will get release date info next month after the Remastered Collection releases. Feels quite odd to be in a situation where we don't know what RGG is next in Japan... A Kenzan Kiwami would be nice (even more so if they are brave enough to localise it or Ishin)
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 30 Jan 2020 08:19:05 3,881 posts
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    Ror wrote:
    Get Steins;Gate. I don't know how Elite is compared to the original, but it's probably my favourite story in a game ever.

    Also, tangentially related: Noooooooooooooooooooooo
    I see they snuck a Steims;Gate 0 Elite announcement too. Milking a little here...
  • Murbs 30 Jan 2020 15:22:38 24,735 posts
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    I see Disgaea 1 Complete is now out on iOS. Would love to buy it, it's my all time favourite game. Not for f***ing £31.99 I won't though; especially given Apple's track record. The number of apps I've purchased that will no longer run.
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