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  • THFourteen 23 May 2020 17:45:00 53,670 posts
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    Speaking of which, recieved a passive aggressive email from the head teacher saying they are tentatively poised to reopen for 3 days a week after half term. No real detail other than being their own packed lunch, no PE, 15 pupil classes etc etc.
  • richardiox 23 May 2020 18:25:56 8,621 posts
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    "He was later asked by reporters whether he would consider his position, he said: "Obviously not."

    "You guys are probably all about as right about that as you were about Brexit: do you remember how right you all were about that," he added"

    Whattacunt

    What does this have to do with Brexit? That was a matter of opinion. This is a matter of fact. Also the phrase "you guys" is very Trump esque way of referencing the mainstream media.

    Really gives an insight into the mind of the person who pulls the strings in government and the contempt they hold towards the press and the public. It's all a game.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 23 May 2020 18:27:57 13,529 posts
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    richardiox wrote:
    fontgeeksogood wrote:
    What's the gig? Are they all terrified of him
    Well he organised a cull of a whole load of the most experienced Conservative MPs just after the last election. I view him as the Stephen Bannon of UK politics...just without the overt racism. But yeah, he's arguably the most powerful man in Westminster and having given the Tories liberation from the EU they owe him a lot
    Yeah this, a lot of people really hate him but he’s delivered and he’s powerful so MPs were having to just shut up and live with it.

    In more normal time I’d suspect when the tide turns against him it’d be a swift one. Right now I could imagine him being on paper demoted or being fired in theory but really still running it from home.

    Or they’ll just front it out like the shameless bastards this lot are
  • Jono62 23 May 2020 18:32:24 25,031 posts
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    @richardiox Video here:

    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1264234446779187206?s=19
  • richardiox 23 May 2020 18:34:50 8,621 posts
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    Equatiing this to Brexit is genius. Basically he's creating a narrative where anyone pro Brexit must also agree with his position on breaking lockdown. Even though they're totally different things.

    Pure tribalism. And it works.
  • Dgzter 23 May 2020 18:37:07 3,209 posts
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    Another point is that I doubt there’s ever been such an obvious case of someone knowing where all the fucking bodies are.

    Even if the knives come out for him within their little cabal—and be assured that there will be some opportunists in the government that would love to pry his fingers off the levers of power—they’ll know the damage he could do. He would not go quietly.

    Edited by Dgzter at 18:38:54 23-05-2020
  • Dgzter 23 May 2020 18:38:20 3,209 posts
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    richardiox wrote:
    Equatiing this to Brexit is genius. Basically he's creating a narrative where anyone pro Brexit must also agree with his position on breaking lockdown. Even though they're totally different things.

    Pure tribalism. And it works.
    Absolutely this. Cummings is not the evil genius many might think, but he’s also not stupid. He knows exactly what he’s doing there.
  • richardiox 23 May 2020 18:52:13 8,621 posts
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    It's modern politics. You're either all-in on the left or all-in on the right. You'll fight the war for your tribe regardless of the individual battle in question. Creates ridiculous situations like this where you have to side with something you don't agree with because if you don't you must be siding with the enemy.

    It's that American style. If you're not fully with us, you're against us. Pretty dangerous and divisive way of doing politics. But I guess this is from Mr Binary himself. Brexit Yes or No?!

    If nothing else todays outburst has really highlighted how much he sees things as a game (or battle) with the media. Truth and fact are irrelevant. "That's just so Dom!"
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 23 May 2020 18:59:44 24,907 posts
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    He's such an insidious little rodent. Genuinely think I could Roy Batty him.
  • X201 23 May 2020 19:01:41 20,688 posts
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    richardiox wrote:
    Equatiing this to Brexit is genius. Basically he's creating a narrative where anyone pro Brexit must also agree with his position on breaking lockdown. Even though they're totally different things.

    Pure tribalism. And it works.
    It’s the same story he used then

    EU/Lockdown = Evil rules governing our lives
    Brexit/Dom = Plucky individuals fighting for common sense

    Edited by X201 at 19:15:58 23-05-2020
  • richardiox 23 May 2020 19:09:27 8,621 posts
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    Always worrying when you have a government who ideologically hates the concept of government.

    Edit - as usual the people who argue loudest for the power of the plucky individual above "society" are almost to-a-man white males born into wealthy families, private school educated and Oxbridge graduates. They're the ones who believe in the power of absolute self determination. The poor choose to be poor. The wealthy choose to be wealthy.

    Edited by richardiox at 19:12:43 23-05-2020
  • Not-a-reviewer 23 May 2020 19:26:33 6,222 posts
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    richardiox wrote:What does this have to do with Brexit? That was a matter of opinion.
    Not really when so much of it was based on lies and half truths.

    It shouldn’t be a surprise how he and the government have handled it. They’ve never shown anything except contempt for the public, they repeatedly lie or fuck them over and it’s been accepted and defended.

    This is what the majority voted for, even if they don’t like it.
  • Jono62 23 May 2020 19:59:10 25,031 posts
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    Not that it will make a difference

    New witnesses cast doubt on Dominic Cummings's lockdown claims

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/23/new-witnesses-cast-doubt-on-dominic-cummingss-lockdown-claims?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Quick_Share
  • reddevil93 23 May 2020 20:04:58 15,432 posts
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    He's done it twice. The Sunday mirror piece is great.
  • bzzct 23 May 2020 20:06:58 2,040 posts
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    This is why Boris hasn't said anything yet - he needs to see a) what public sentiment is like and b) how much shit the Guardian and Mirror have held back from the original story before deciding whether to back Cummings.

    However much he might want Cummings around, by not coming out today saying "he's done nothing wrong" he's reserving the option kick him out without a u-turn.

    Edited by bzzct at 20:16:56 23-05-2020
  • X201 23 May 2020 20:14:32 20,688 posts
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    I hope the papers have got his movements mapped and it’s the coverups and denials that hang him
  • Load_2.0 23 May 2020 20:16:48 31,617 posts
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    It's clearly now utter bullshit from start to finish. It was a jaunt up to Durham including sightseeing not some desperate need for childcare.

    I'm amazed how they are doubling down blatant lies so brazenly.

    The witnesses are wrong, the police are lying.

    It's absurd.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 23 May 2020 20:20:46 13,529 posts
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    Spectator is carrying pro and anti Cummings columns now.

    That they’re hedging their bets speaks of Tories smelling blood in the water
  • X201 23 May 2020 20:21:51 20,688 posts
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    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    Spectator is carrying pro and anti Cummings columns now.

    That they’re hedging their bets speaks of Tories smelling blood in the water
    Bojo would be proud

    Edited by X201 at 20:21:58 23-05-2020
  • TheSaint 23 May 2020 20:26:25 19,565 posts
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    Nice work by the journalists holding this back thus giving ministers plenty of rope to hang themselves with.
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 23 May 2020 20:34:13 24,907 posts
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    Jono62 wrote:
    Not that it will make a difference

    New witnesses cast doubt on Dominic Cummings's lockdown claims

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/23/new-witnesses-cast-doubt-on-dominic-cummingss-lockdown-claims?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Quick_Share
    Surely even those greasy cunts can't weasel out of this now.
  • JoelStinty 23 May 2020 20:36:31 8,875 posts
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    bzzct wrote:
    This is why Boris hasn't said anything yet - he needs to see a) what public sentiment is like and b) how much shit the Guardian and Mirror have held back from the original story before deciding whether to back Cummings.

    However much he might want Cummings around, by not coming out today saying "he's done nothing wrong" he's reserving the option kick him out without a u-turn.
    Yeah it’s probably a smart move to hold back.

    However, the rest of the cabinet are now in a bit of an awkward position unless they all cry we had no idea
  • Dougs 23 May 2020 20:37:31 94,063 posts
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    bzzct wrote:
    This is why Boris hasn't said anything yet - he needs to see a) what public sentiment is like and b) how much shit the Guardian and Mirror have held back from the original story before deciding whether to back Cummings.

    However much he might want Cummings around, by not coming out today saying "he's done nothing wrong" he's reserving the option kick him out without a u-turn.
    Yep, if there's one thing BoJo does, it's seeing what the public reaction is before acting. Desperate to be liked.
  • X201 23 May 2020 20:37:39 20,688 posts
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    Decks wrote:
    Jono62 wrote:
    Not that it will make a difference

    New witnesses cast doubt on Dominic Cummings's lockdown claims

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/23/new-witnesses-cast-doubt-on-dominic-cummingss-lockdown-claims?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Quick_Share
    Surely even those greasy cunts can't weasel out of this now.
    Decks, you innocent fool ;)
  • Dougs 23 May 2020 20:40:11 94,063 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    Speaking of which, recieved a passive aggressive email from the head teacher saying they are tentatively poised to reopen for 3 days a week after half term. No real detail other than being their own packed lunch, no PE, 15 pupil classes etc etc.
    Our school was practically begging parents not to send their kids. They know it's a bad idea.
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 23 May 2020 20:43:17 24,907 posts
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    Yeah we got a begging letter, then a follow up letter saying they weren't opening.
  • Load_2.0 23 May 2020 20:44:45 31,617 posts
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    Hah!

    https://twitter.com/ajmcq1993/status/1264211827480768513?s=19
  • bzzct 23 May 2020 20:46:08 2,040 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    THFourteen wrote:
    Speaking of which, recieved a passive aggressive email from the head teacher saying they are tentatively poised to reopen for 3 days a week after half term. No real detail other than being their own packed lunch, no PE, 15 pupil classes etc etc.
    Our school was practically begging parents not to send their kids. They know it's a bad idea.
    Our head seems very comfortable with it, though there's little-to-no way of knowing what the individual teachers might think.

    We had a letter saying we intend to open, although it's not compulsory, but let us know either way so we know how much food etc.

    "To assist with your decision making, we will now outline our reopening plans in some detail." - followed by *eight A4 pages* of what they're doing.
  • TheSaint 23 May 2020 20:47:00 19,565 posts
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  • X201 23 May 2020 20:48:06 20,688 posts
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    Load_2.0 wrote:
    Hah!

    https://twitter.com/ajmcq1993/status/1264211827480768513?s=19
    That’s definite Hah! or Whoosh! territory for most people :)
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