Following Coronavirus Page 799

  • grey_matters 16 Sep 2020 22:39:43 5,377 posts
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    JamboWayOh wrote:
    Hang on, is Decks JCVD in Kickboxer?
    Ah. Now the frequent reposting of the Cynthia Rothrock adventure in Cairo makes (even more) sense.
  • nickthegun 16 Sep 2020 23:02:08 84,548 posts
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    TheSaint wrote:
    10pm curfew coming to pubs in the north east tomorrow. Thatíll make a big difference.
    In unrelated news, all the Wetherspoons in Newcastle will from tomorrow be redesignated as hunting lodges.
  • JamboWayOh 16 Sep 2020 23:03:31 22,460 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    Everyone just drinks more, surely?
    FTFY
  • fontgeeksogood 16 Sep 2020 23:14:25 11,998 posts
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    Aren't all Geordies working on building sites in Germany anyway, like?

    I saw this documentary about it
  • philreeduk 16 Sep 2020 23:30:43 547 posts
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    Well this is fun


    https://mobile.twitter.com/globalhlthtwit/status/1306351773356118022?s=20
  • TheSaint 16 Sep 2020 23:33:16 20,283 posts
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    That would make far too much sense to be true.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 17 Sep 2020 00:07:02 16,076 posts
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    If theyíre reporting 4000 positive tests but there are thousands more in the backlog, and thousands of people who canít get tests and the official message is donít even try unless you have symptoms despite asymptomatic transmission being firmly established and who knows how many people who are carrying on regardless because of fear of losing their job or some other stigma around being unclean

    Yeah, I can buy the actual infection rate being significantly higher than the government is reporting
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 17 Sep 2020 00:10:23 16,076 posts
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    Iím starting to think the only way the cycle of restrictions and lockdown ends is the pricks win the argument and we all just have to deal with it and accept that lots of people will die or suffer debilitating illness but at least we can go round the shops without anyone telling us we have to look out for each other anymore
  • TheSaint 17 Sep 2020 00:24:49 20,283 posts
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    Itís quite impressive that the government are repeating almost every mistake they made in March.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 17 Sep 2020 00:27:28 16,076 posts
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    TheSaint wrote:
    Itís quite impressive that the government are repeating almost every mistake they made in March.
    Only now weíve got a population largely bored restrictions and less likely to comply with them after become complacent first time around
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 17 Sep 2020 00:28:41 16,076 posts
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    Someone should rush a tv drama about the parish of Eyams. People are more likely to pay attention if the message is delivered in box set form
  • Derblington 17 Sep 2020 00:49:01 34,426 posts
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    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    Iím starting to think the only way the cycle of restrictions and lockdown ends is the pricks win the argument and we all just have to deal with it and accept that lots of people will die or suffer debilitating illness but at least we can go round the shops without anyone telling us we have to look out for each other anymore
    Unfortunately, this is basically it.
    Itís been about 7 months (ish?) since thereís been any real response to the virus and itís largely been a shambles. Weíve got another 18 months of it before anything really changes.

    18 months of people not giving a shit and the government desperately keeping education and the economy running. Thereís no way there will be any major change in adherence to any rules.

    Edited by Derblington at 00:49:34 17-09-2020
  • Psychotext 17 Sep 2020 00:59:07 69,203 posts
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    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    Only now weíve got a population largely bored restrictions and less likely to comply with them after become complacent first time around
    Not just bored and complacent... the conspiracy theorists have had a chance to get their ducks in a row now so they're actively PUSHING BACK AGAINST GOVERNMENT CONTROL!!!!

    You can't muzzle me.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 17 Sep 2020 08:04:50 16,076 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    Only now weíve got a population largely bored restrictions and less likely to comply with them after become complacent first time around
    Not just bored and complacent... the conspiracy theorists have had a chance to get their ducks in a row now so they're actively PUSHING BACK AGAINST GOVERNMENT CONTROL!!!!

    You can't muzzle me.
    I really think weíve lost the fight there too. Iím seeing it more and more and from more people and pages I thought were better than it too.

    And the nutters seem to have so much more energy to keep the argument going than rational people do
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 17 Sep 2020 08:05:54 16,076 posts
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    Well there we go, North East lockdown-lite from tonight it is then. Good luck trying to enforce it

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-54166256
  • Load_2.0 17 Sep 2020 08:52:15 32,507 posts
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    I still believe that most people still follow guidance. The noisiest "it's all bollocks" and anti vax brigade will feature in headlines along with articles about house parties etc.

    Lockdowns never have complete compliance but still help with slowing the case numbers.

    Lockdown fatigue is always a factor. March through to July was far from perfect anywhere in the UK but dramatically changed hospitalisation and mortality rates.

    Local lockdowns will be the norm for some time.

    I cant say I agree with the campaign to encourage contacting police about groups of over six. That feels like it may be abused and is wedge in a pretty divided country.
  • Lukus 17 Sep 2020 08:59:04 24,001 posts
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    I'm all for Covid deniers mingling with each other as freely as they like and the virus tearing through their population. That's just survival of the fittest in action.
  • Decks 17 Sep 2020 09:08:44 28,427 posts
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    The fat loudmouth mum who I fucking despise was telling everyone that she wasn't going to obey the new rules because they didn't make sense at the school drop off this morning. Fucking hideous toad.
  • General_Martok 17 Sep 2020 09:17:47 1,672 posts
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    Lukus wrote:
    I'm all for Covid deniers mingling with each other as freely as they like and the virus tearing through their population. That's just survival of the fittest in action.
    There is part of me that just thinks fuck it, let the world burn. We've fucked it up already. Let's just start again when all the idiots are dead.

    Except it won't just be the idiots that die, infact a lot of them will survive.
  • Load_2.0 17 Sep 2020 09:36:27 32,507 posts
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    I find it very difficult to ignore the "do your research" crowd. There's an Instagram post circulating at the moment about some mother screaming about her child recieving a flu shot.

    How dare they do this to my child without me being able to research it first! Is the gist of it.

    It seems to be at the core of the biggest problems in the world right now. People mistaking Google searches, FB posts and internet blogs as "research"

    From politics to medicine people equate their ability to search for a topic online with years/decades of education and specialised training.

    ďpeople in this country have had enough of expertsĒ.

    Gove was somewhat prophetic.

    Edited by Load_2.0 at 09:37:05 17-09-2020
  • ghearoid 17 Sep 2020 09:42:09 3,677 posts
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    I got my annual flu jab yesterday, I've been getting it for years because I have asthma and it's great getting through the winter months with no sickness. I can't understand anyone who wouldn't want one, it's made a huge difference to me and my parents.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 17 Sep 2020 09:42:18 16,076 posts
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    @Load_2.0 I was having an unproductive discussion about this with someone I used to go to school with. They know that itís literally my job to know how to research academically but theyíre still on the truther train saying Iím being close minded by only believing experts and statistical complexity. You donít want to be a dickhead who pulls rank and talks down to people but one of us has a relevant doctorate and the other works in a gym.
  • nickthegun 17 Sep 2020 09:44:10 84,548 posts
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    Its one of the reasons Ive dialled back massively on social media. Its all self-fulfilling, self-proving, circular nonsense. Quick to label people sheep but will actually follow the herd to the most ridiculous of conclusions and then post something they know will get them a dopamine hit from their audience of clapping seals.

    Someone posts some bullshit, an actual doctor refutes it and they get dismissed because they are in the pocket of 'big pharma'.

    Its pointless. Theres no arguing with people like this, the only way to protect your sanity is to opt out.
  • sport 17 Sep 2020 09:46:32 16,579 posts
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    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    You donít want to be a dickhead who pulls rank and talks down to people but one of us has a relevant doctorate and the other works in a gym.
    Kickboxer trainer?
  • TheSaint 17 Sep 2020 09:50:12 20,283 posts
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    ghearoid wrote:
    I got my annual flu jab yesterday, I've been getting it for years because I have asthma and it's great getting through the winter months with no sickness. I can't understand anyone who wouldn't want one, it's made a huge difference to me and my parents.
    Going for mine this afternoon. I don't get it free but I'm more than happy to pay Boots and do my bit.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 17 Sep 2020 10:01:51 16,076 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    Its one of the reasons Ive dialled back massively on social media. Its all self-fulfilling, self-proving, circular nonsense. Quick to label people sheep but will actually follow the herd to the most ridiculous of conclusions and then post something they know will get them a dopamine hit from their audience of clapping seals.

    Someone posts some bullshit, an actual doctor refutes it and they get dismissed because they are in the pocket of 'big pharma'.

    Its pointless. Theres no arguing with people like this, the only way to protect your sanity
    is to opt out.
    Have you watched the new Louis Theroux series? Heís reminiscing about all his old adventures and there are loads of quaint people to be laughed at as nutters in the 90s and present day Louis is like, oh yeah, these people run the world now, shit.
  • Load_2.0 17 Sep 2020 10:39:24 32,507 posts
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    @simpleexplodingmaybe

    It's pretty frustrating and as people read posts on Facebook it seems to embolden them to be more vocal and the numbers swell.
  • Psychotext 17 Sep 2020 11:13:42 69,203 posts
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    I blocked someone on facebook today for some stupid "do your research its all about control!" bollocks.

    They never stopped to explain what the advantage was for the government. I guess it's to make us all compliant and docile because reasons.

    Sigh.
  • DFawkes 17 Sep 2020 11:54:45 32,747 posts
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    If you actually read the article, Dr Mike Ryan said if we just let it runs its course unrestricted, you'd be more likely to get it than win the lottery. Which is obvious, isn't it?
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