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  • Rogueywon 7 Apr 2021 23:15:00 11,357 posts
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    Increasing reports that the J&J vaccine has been linked to similar blood clots to the AZ one. Possibly not a huge surprise as they're both the same kind of vaccine - viral vector.

    Will be worth keeping an eye on the J&J one. That's the one most likely to be used in the developing world (easiest to deploy), where average population ages tend to be much younger.
  • Nitrous 7 Apr 2021 23:16:33 2,252 posts
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    Don't know what's worse. A manager that believes in conspiracy stuff or a boss like mine who believes the Daily Fail headlines.
  • RobAnybody 8 Apr 2021 11:21:16 2,892 posts
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    Great video, do watch the following: "Why you can't compare Covid-19 vaccines" -

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3odScka55A
  • General_Martok 8 Apr 2021 11:35:37 2,096 posts
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    RobAnybody wrote:
    Great video, do watch the following: "Why you can't compare Covid-19 vaccines" -

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3odScka55A
    Excellent video!
  • Psychotext 8 Apr 2021 11:41:20 69,978 posts
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    Yeah, I must keep that link around. Have watched it before and it's definitely something people should try to understand better.
  • RGeefe 8 Apr 2021 12:25:46 1,864 posts
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    Started getting emails announcing all sorts of gigs for July onwards. Big venues, small ones, arenas. Prices have shot up and I can't help but feel it's still all very premature.

    I've had a gig rollover from last July to this. I'll have been vaccinated and I'm happy to go - it's just wondering whether it actually takes place and what the experience is like.

    On principle, I am not getting involved in covid passports. Either people can go to things or they can't.
  • Wayne 8 Apr 2021 12:30:32 3,156 posts
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    I'm now eligible for my vaccine, but can't book it because I don't know my Health Care Number (Northern Ireland). Tried phoning doctors but no luck.
  • X201 8 Apr 2021 12:54:06 21,553 posts
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    @Wayne
    It should be printed on any old appointment letters you may have had for scans, tests, etc

    You can still book without it though.

    Give this a whirl
    https://www.nhs.uk/nhs-services/online-services/find-nhs-number/
  • mothercruncher 8 Apr 2021 13:40:28 19,126 posts
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    I looked it up for you Wayne, itís - 80087355.
  • Wayne 8 Apr 2021 14:29:29 3,156 posts
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    All sorted, and booked in for my jab on Sunday.
  • Frogofdoom 8 Apr 2021 14:45:14 17,428 posts
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    Ooh risky, everyone knows the blood clots happen on Sundays.
  • smugla 8 Apr 2021 15:03:55 2,303 posts
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    Its my dads memorial today he passed from covid last year,my godson was going to drop off some flowers today and called that his girlfriends brothers wife who's 34 colapsed last night after 10 days of having the oxford vaccine they taken her to National Hospital for Neurology and Neurosurgery and confirmed she has two blood clots on the brain caused by the vaccine .
    As soon as I put the phone down I got a call from the district nurse that the will be coming round sat for our second dose, I felt ill for a couple of days with the first one but no headaches just aches and tiredness aparelentley you feel worse with the second one part of me doesn't want to concent to the second dose and feel overwelmed with worry
  • General_Martok 8 Apr 2021 15:28:28 2,096 posts
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    79 out of 20,000,000 have had blood clots in the UK. 2/3 of those are women.

    I put the 0's in on purpose.

    That's a 0.000395% chance of getting a blood clot.

    19 of the those 79 passed away:

    That's a 0.000095% chance of dying from the clot.

    Assuming you are male and above 40 you have a 0.2% and rising with age chance of dying from covid

    https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/covid-pandemic-mortality-risk-estimator

    Edited by General_Martok at 15:34:36 08-04-2021
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 8 Apr 2021 15:38:47 17,132 posts
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    Its so hard to rationalise risk when the emotional impact of the bad thing happening is so immediate. I donít blame people for feeling concerned when the news is crying panic.

    Iíve not done the sums but I wouldnít be surprised if I was in greater danger from my toaster than the jab but thats no comfort to anyone who has suffered.
  • General_Martok 8 Apr 2021 15:48:52 2,096 posts
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    Exactly, I'm a little apprehensive at taking the jab after the findings but when you put it into cold hard numbers it's still pretty much a no brainer.
  • RunningWolf 8 Apr 2021 15:59:08 22 posts
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    I'm so sorry to hear that on both counts, smugla.

    All of this pulls into question risks with other vaccinations that I know I, and let's face it, 99% of the population have taken for granted. Take travel inoculations, I've had basically every one available and did so unquestionably.

    On a personal note, my girlfriend (aged 27) is suffering from Long Covid 4 months later. It's really taking its toll on her mental health. What makes it worse is most people in our circles, family included, don't take it seriously so then she feels further isolated.

    This has been a tough couple of years.
  • prettyvacant 8 Apr 2021 16:36:22 380 posts
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    I've had the second dose of the AZ vaccine and felt terrible after the first but more or less ok after the second , I think it's the Mrna vaccines like Moderna that are making people more ill on the follow up dose .
  • TheSaint 8 Apr 2021 17:46:48 20,544 posts
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    Does it?
  • Decks 8 Apr 2021 17:49:38 29,411 posts
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    They've vaccinated 20% of the population.
  • puddleduck 8 Apr 2021 18:04:50 1,982 posts
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    @RunningWolf my wife also reached 4 months. She's just this week starting to feel something resembling herself. She suddenly felt quite sick last week then came out the back feeling better than she has in 4 months. So as hard as it'll be for both of you it can and will get better :)
  • RunningWolf 8 Apr 2021 18:20:22 22 posts
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    @puddleduck Thanks mate, I appreciate that and will share this with her. Optimistic solidarity makes all the difference here.

    Edited by RunningWolf at 18:20:43 08-04-2021
  • richardiox 8 Apr 2021 19:00:42 9,593 posts
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    longpointgreen wrote:
    Hungary has the highest vaccination rate in Europe, and at the same time is setting the highest daily records for Covid related deaths. This backs up the theory, those that have been vaccinated continue to contract and spread Covid, and continue to die from it?
    A) Show us some stats to show Hungary has the highest Vax rate in Europe B) What theory are you talking about? Literally any cunt can make up anything they want and call it a theory. Then any other cunt can then call it "that theory"...like it's a scientific thing.

    What a world.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 8 Apr 2021 19:07:48 17,132 posts
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    Its never been the case that any of the vaccines claimed to prevent infection, all have been found to reduce illness which isnít the same thing

    Transmission was never modelled
  • Decks 8 Apr 2021 19:33:06 29,411 posts
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    As luck would have it they do actually prevent infection too.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 8 Apr 2021 19:40:54 17,132 posts
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    Unless youíre hungry
  • Rogueywon 8 Apr 2021 19:45:37 11,357 posts
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    Hungary has the fourth highest vaccination rate in Europe, behind the UK, Malta and Serbia.

    Their cases and deaths are still so high because their rapid advance in vaccination only started up in March. Immunity does not kick in immediately after a vaccination and they were also in the midddle of a huge spike in cases in March. Most of the people dying there now were infected before they were vaccinated, or before the immunity from the vaccine had kicked in. Right now, Hungary's roughly where the UK was in mid-February. Their vaccination rate is decent, but it hasn't yet started to seriously offset infections and deaths.

    The Chile case is arguably more interesting. Some of the same factors in play there, plus an over-eagerness to unlock too quickly as vaccination ramped up. Maybe also some suggestions that the Sinovac jab, on which a lot of data has been witheld, might not be very good (similar suggestions from the UAE).
  • Armoured_Bear 8 Apr 2021 19:46:19 30,281 posts
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    Yep, the Russian jab on the other hand, is supposedly shit-hot.
  • Rogueywon 8 Apr 2021 19:53:41 11,357 posts
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    @Armoured_Bear There does seem to be actual data on Sputnik suggesting it works and is safe, yes. The Chinese ones, on the other hand - or the first wave available at the moment - look dodgy as fuck.
  • drhickman1983 8 Apr 2021 22:15:00 7,498 posts
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    Being just under 40 the vaccine hasn't rolled out to me just yet, but just realised I don't have a gp as the one in registered with has closed (I also moved out it's catchment area but that's moot.)

    I should register with a new one but the ones nearby want photographic ID, which I don't have. So now I'll need to get a passport or something I guess.

    Is there a way to get the vaccine without being registered at a GP?

    (I will register anyway, just trying to work out how high I need to prioritize getting my ID sorted etc)

    Edited by drhickman1983 at 22:23:20 08-04-2021
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