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  • SolidSCB 11 Jun 2021 12:53:36 16,619 posts
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    Day 2 was the bad one for me. Was okayish in the morning but by mid afternoon I was an absolute wreck for the rest of the day. Was fatigued as fuck for a good 4 or 5 days after that too.
  • Nemesis 11 Jun 2021 13:12:59 20,293 posts
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    Day 2 I felt really tired; took a few days to be back to normal.

    Dreading the 2nd jab as I know it's gonna be payback for an easy 1st jab.
  • alt-cmd-esc 11 Jun 2021 14:42:29 713 posts
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    captbirdseye wrote:
    These are all part of the pilot events where you need to provide negative tests etc. I wouldn't be worried about it.
    Erm, are these the test they are basing this on?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/11/us-health-agency-gives-innova-lateral-flow-covid-tests-scathing-review
  • General_Martok 11 Jun 2021 14:52:06 2,447 posts
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    alt-cmd-esc wrote:
    captbirdseye wrote:
    These are all part of the pilot events where you need to provide negative tests etc. I wouldn't be worried about it.
    Erm, are these the test they are basing this on?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/11/us-health-agency-gives-innova-lateral-flow-covid-tests-scathing-review
    Yes they're shit but they're still better than nothing.
  • brokenkey 11 Jun 2021 14:57:53 11,108 posts
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    General_Martok wrote:
    alt-cmd-esc wrote:
    captbirdseye wrote:
    These are all part of the pilot events where you need to provide negative tests etc. I wouldn't be worried about it.
    Erm, are these the test they are basing this on?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/11/us-health-agency-gives-innova-lateral-flow-covid-tests-scathing-review
    Yes they're shit but they're still better than nothing.
    If it creates a false impression of safety, and you release lots of super-spreaders into the environment, then its worse than telling everyone not to attend the football.
  • alt-cmd-esc 11 Jun 2021 14:59:19 713 posts
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    @General_Martok I dunno - surely it's worse to have a false negative test than not to have a test at all, as you'll think you're not spreading things about, even though you could well be?

    edit: or what brokenkey said :)

    Edited by alt-cmd-esc at 15:00:15 11-06-2021
  • General_Martok 11 Jun 2021 15:11:41 2,447 posts
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    That's why the NHS cover their arses and don't ever say you don't have it, they just say you aren't likely to infectious. It most definitely is not a guarantee that you don't have it just less likely to be spreading.

    I take the point about it giving people a false sense of security though.
  • Decks 11 Jun 2021 19:07:20 30,846 posts
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    We're in the shit again aren't we.
  • creepiest-lizard 11 Jun 2021 19:12:32 2,868 posts
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    Nah. I think things will slowly get better toward the end of the year, despite this government and the anti mask/vax muppets.
    I do believe that the sensible sane people do vastl y outnumber them and will do their part.
  • Decks 11 Jun 2021 19:18:35 30,846 posts
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    It's more the fact we now seem to be going up by an extra thousand every couple of days that's got my arse twitching.
  • Dougs 11 Jun 2021 19:34:19 100,260 posts
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    Key is hospitalisations and deaths. But the more the virus is in circulation, the more chance it might mutate and vaccines become less effective. But we can't keep on locking down, especially if hospitals are coping.
  • chopsen 11 Jun 2021 20:11:25 21,927 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    the more the virus is in circulation, the more chance it might mutate and vaccines become less effective. .
    Conversely, the longer we stay locked up, the more chance that people's Immunity will fade and prior exposure and immunisation becomes ineffective.
  • Dougs 11 Jun 2021 20:13:40 100,260 posts
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    True enough.
  • RGeefe 11 Jun 2021 20:14:24 2,335 posts
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    Basically - we're in the "learn to live with it" phase
  • Not-a-reviewer 11 Jun 2021 20:25:50 7,640 posts
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    Iím sure I saw that about 50% of those going in had both doses of the vaccine. If true then we are going to be in a mess by autumn.
  • Not-a-reviewer 11 Jun 2021 20:27:06 7,640 posts
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    RGeefe wrote:
    Basically - we're in the "learn to live with it" phase
    No we arenít. We might not be far off but we havenít actually done the learning part yet, so far everyone seems to assume that means carry on as we used to.
  • Decks 11 Jun 2021 21:06:21 30,846 posts
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    Not-a-reviewer wrote:
    Iím sure I saw that about 50% of those going in had both doses of the vaccine.
    That's not true.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 11 Jun 2021 21:16:05 19,679 posts
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    Not-a-reviewer wrote:
    RGeefe wrote:
    Basically - we're in the "learn to live with it" phase
    No we arenít. We might not be far off but we havenít actually done the learning part yet, so far everyone seems to assume that means carry on as we used to.
    I think thats whats going to happen. The go back to how things were people easily outnumber the careful nows.
  • Not-a-reviewer 11 Jun 2021 21:25:56 7,640 posts
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    Decks wrote:
    Not-a-reviewer wrote:
    Iím sure I saw that about 50% of those going in had both doses of the vaccine.
    That's not true.
    Yeah, I canít find it anywhere now. I could have misread something else.
  • Decks 11 Jun 2021 21:30:25 30,846 posts
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    20 people out of the 223 that have been hospitalised with the delta variant were fully vaccinated. Really promising numbers really.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57441677
  • drhickman1983 11 Jun 2021 21:33:59 7,762 posts
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    Decks wrote:
    We're in the shit again aren't we.
    To be honest that's very much how I feel. People have stopped giving a fuck, frankly they may as well ease restrictions on the 21st because I don't think any one is actually paying attention.

    I can hear a group of people near here watching the football, pretty fucking sure there's more than 6 of them and I don't expect they'll be socially distancing. Imagine it's the same everywhere.

    I just just want to get through the next month without catching Covid as I want to go on my isolated holiday and move to a new house. But for the first time I'm actually concerned it's going to fuck my plans up, as it's the first time I've really had plans in the last 18 months.
  • Dougs 11 Jun 2021 21:45:43 100,260 posts
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    I don't think they'll roll anything back so fingers crossed you'll be ok. People have definitely given up for the most part though
  • Armoured_Bear 11 Jun 2021 21:50:39 31,133 posts
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    Was talking to a mate earlier about watching the football, I've been mega careful with Covid, haven't met any friends, working from home 100%, not left the house without good FFP2 masks etc. but thinking that now we're both weeks after our 2nd Moderna vaccines, still working from home etc. should be fine to meet up.No?
  • Decks 11 Jun 2021 21:52:13 30,846 posts
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    BBC were saying if numbers keep going up at this level we'll be at January numbers by early to mid July. Considering we were close to 2k deaths a day with those infection rates you'd think we'd be hitting at least 200 a day dead with vaccines. Would we just say that's acceptable at that point?
  • Rum_Monkey 11 Jun 2021 21:59:23 3,332 posts
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    I guess it depends on the ages of the people dying whether the general public will accept it.
  • X201 11 Jun 2021 22:23:22 22,082 posts
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    Leak a possible 4 week delay to June 21st on Friday night. See what shit erupts in the press over the weekend.
    Announce two week delay.
  • Dougs 11 Jun 2021 22:28:08 100,260 posts
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    Press embargo lifts at 2230, guess we'll see!
  • Dougs 11 Jun 2021 22:28:33 100,260 posts
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    Haha, hadn't refreshed. Doh
  • Not-a-reviewer 11 Jun 2021 22:35:32 7,640 posts
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    Decks wrote:
    BBC were saying if numbers keep going up at this level we'll be at January numbers by early to mid July. Considering we were close to 2k deaths a day with those infection rates you'd think we'd be hitting at least 200 a day dead with vaccines. Would we just say that's acceptable at that point?
    Thatís 73k per year so it probably is a bit higher than we should accept but it is getting close to it. That is still with some restrictions on gatherings, office work and commuting so maybe those things need to stay in place and something done about changing breaks in the school year.

    Iím sure treatments will also improve over time, new vaccines may be more effective and possible be modified for new strains.

    Things are definitely getting there for the U.K. but rushing it note instead of being cautious for just a little longer to make sure seems a big mistake.
  • Not-a-reviewer 11 Jun 2021 22:36:42 7,640 posts
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    Decks wrote:
    20 people out of the 223 that have been hospitalised with the delta variant were fully vaccinated. Really promising numbers really.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57441677
    Thatís it. I must have skimmed it and completely misread it. That is looking promising.
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