Nvidia Shield - or another streaming device? Page 2

  • Blackmarsh63 14 Mar 2020 08:03:10 3,138 posts
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    @Gregolution Which dongle have you got. I had problems with the original big one. The new tiny one works perfectly.
  • Fake_Blood 14 Mar 2020 11:00:50 10,233 posts
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    Ffs, Iíve been having the same issues as Tomo with Steam link when you have a ultra widescreen connected to your pc.
    So now I want a shield too, bloody expensive though.
  • Tomo 14 Mar 2020 11:51:56 17,630 posts
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    Get one, just think of it as equivalent to a session with a chiropractor after all those years hunched over your keyboard.
  • Gregolution 14 Mar 2020 13:58:41 9,976 posts
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    @Blackmarsh63

    Its fairly big. Didn't know there were multiples models.

    I've just received a 3 meter usb cable from Amazon now though. Fed up with it
  • Blackmarsh63 14 Mar 2020 14:25:55 3,138 posts
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    @Gregolution Ok No worries. I suspect the old one I had was buggered as the driver wouldn't install whatever I tried. This is the new one

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Official-Microsoft-XBOX-ONE-Wireless-Controller-USB-Adapter-for-Windows-10-NEW/164096590795?epid=1551271845&hash=item2634eb43cb:g:fXgAAOSwcT5cqdGd

    Shocking the elite has no bluetooth :cry:

    Edited by Blackmarsh63 at 14:27:18 14-03-2020
  • Tomo 14 Mar 2020 20:04:53 17,630 posts
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    It's okay, cos they fixed it and put Bluetooth in the Elite 2.

    Yours for £160

    -_-

    Edited by Tomo at 20:05:00 14-03-2020
  • Gregolution 15 Mar 2020 11:32:52 9,976 posts
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    Tomo wrote:
    It's okay, cos they fixed it and put Bluetooth in the Elite 2.

    Yours for £160

    -_-
    LMAO. I bet it *still* doesn't even come with rechargable pack either. What a joke. I paid 150 for this thing, no bluetooth, no rechargable and nothing but problems.

    Elite my butt.

    Ordered the shield tv tho :)
  • Tomo 15 Mar 2020 14:37:27 17,630 posts
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    Huzzah!
  • Fake_Blood 15 Mar 2020 15:07:15 10,233 posts
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    Moonlight (formerly Limelight) is an open source implementation of NVIDIA's GameStream protocol. We implemented the protocol used by the NVIDIA Shield and wrote a set of 3rd party clients.

    https://moonlight-stream.org

    Might be useful if like me you have an old laptop laying around or something. Been running this on an old macbook connected to the tv since last night and it's been amazing so far.
  • Dirtbox 16 Mar 2020 08:25:40 91,337 posts
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    Your PC and TV probably supports miracast (winkey+P, connect to a wireless display). Use that.
  • Tomo 16 Mar 2020 11:13:02 17,630 posts
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    Fake_Blood wrote:
    Moonlight (formerly Limelight) is an open source implementation of NVIDIA's GameStream protocol. We implemented the protocol used by the NVIDIA Shield and wrote a set of 3rd party clients.

    https://moonlight-stream.org

    Might be useful if like me you have an old laptop laying around or something. Been running this on an old macbook connected to the tv since last night and it's been amazing so far.
    Ohhh. I meant to look into this ages ago but forgot about it. I have a Raspberry Pi lying around. Might fix it up with Moonlight and see how it compares to Shield, and whether I've wasted 200 notes...
  • Tomo 16 Mar 2020 11:16:24 17,630 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    Your PC and TV probably supports miracast (winkey+P, connect to a wireless display). Use that.
    Hadn't heard of this... Seems like something very useful, deliberately poorly publicised. Why isn't everyone using this instead of Chromecasts etc? Purely because you have to have PC on?
  • Dirtbox 16 Mar 2020 20:17:04 91,337 posts
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    It just acts like a second monitor that connects wirelessly, it's not incredible but it's the most accessible since it's built into windows and most smart devices, including phones.
  • Gregolution 20 Mar 2020 09:55:31 9,976 posts
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    Opened .

    Setup absolutely perfect.

    Connect to pc absolutely perfect.

    No problems whatsoever.

    I guess as per usual in life you get what you pay for compared to steam link.
  • Gregolution 20 Mar 2020 09:56:16 9,976 posts
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    One question - when using the steam app for games that don't directly support geforcenow

    1. Why do you have to do a tiny install?
    2. They don't seem to run quite as well do they?
  • Tomo 20 Mar 2020 10:54:22 17,630 posts
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    1) Do you? Didn't notice this.
    2) I only use GameStream rather than Geforce Now. And I tend to open them via Steam, rather than the shortcut icons on the Shield menu. When I go via Steam, it seems to adjust the resolution automatically, whereas when I've tried via the Shield buttons, that doesn't always work. I've not noticed any performance differences with either method though.
  • Gregolution 20 Mar 2020 11:25:40 9,976 posts
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    I think I know what it is.

    For games that support geforce now, it checks your library and if you own it, you can stream and play without connecting to your PC. And I guess it needs a modest install to accomplish that.

    It's very cool. Ps4 connectivity was simples.

    Trying to get steam controller working with it is the only issue I've had, otherwise smooth as baby's butt.
  • Tomo 20 Mar 2020 11:31:05 17,630 posts
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    Oh right, yeah, that would explain it. I've yet to try GeforceNow - I don't think I've got the bandwidth for it, plus I have so many games on Steam it makes sense to just use them over the home network.

    Glad you're happy with it though! It's been a bit of a game changer for me. Love it.
  • Gregolution 20 Mar 2020 12:02:36 9,976 posts
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    @Tomo yeah, cheers for your advice mate ;)
  • Gregolution 21 Mar 2020 19:46:27 9,976 posts
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    @Tomo

    Quick question. When you use the steam link connection - Does it always connect to the pc AND start steam in Big Picture mode?

    It did that the first time... and then never again.
  • Gregolution 21 Mar 2020 20:10:54 9,976 posts
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    Or actually... did you install the steam link app on your shield?
  • Tomo 21 Mar 2020 20:39:45 17,630 posts
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    Hmm. It's just called Steam on mine I think? I think it lives in the Nvidia Games section (rather than Apps). I added it to my Shield home screen, or it automatically did it. Whenever I load that, it just goes straight to my desktop. Essentially as if I was booting up my PC. Doesn't go into Big Picture, but I prefer it that way.

    Edited by Tomo at 20:41:19 21-03-2020
  • monkehhh 21 Mar 2020 20:46:29 5,229 posts
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    I use the Steam Link app, it's great.
  • Gregolution 21 Mar 2020 21:40:48 9,976 posts
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    @monkehhh

    I've just found out about this and installed it .seems.to.work a lot better. It goes straight into big picture and from what I can tell the quality is better.

    Also now finding this is a much better smart TV and I'm actually making use of the voice commands.

    Wife even likes it.

    Now the real test. Will it connect and stream games every time consistently without any issues. Time will tell but so far so good
  • monkehhh 21 Mar 2020 21:54:51 5,229 posts
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    @Gregolution Good stuff, I absolutely love my Shield. I don't think I've actually turned the Virgin TV box on since I got it because there's always something more interesting to do on the TV than watch TV.. Plex, Netflix, Prime Video, Steam, Twitch, etc.
  • Gregolution 23 Mar 2020 08:52:11 9,976 posts
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    Hmm. Couple of marks against.... in my quest to try to find a device that works perfectly instead of the constant headache steamlink was... :

    1. Tried streaming via steam link app yesterday and the resolution came up wrong (which happened ALL THE TIME with the physical steamlink). Turning on the monitor of the computer fixed it instantly and then it worked very well.

    2. Playing that freebie tomb raider game on steam no sound came out for no good reason.

    3. Tried watching a film with my wife on Netflix last night and it failed to start the movie 6 times in a row. Got stuck on 99% loaded and then gave an error message. Switched over to the TV native smart tv apps and netflix loaded the same film first time.

    Ugh... it was all going so well!
  • Tomo 23 Mar 2020 08:54:13 17,630 posts
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    I'm confused. How are you using the Steam Link app? Via your phone?
  • Gregolution 23 Mar 2020 08:55:44 9,976 posts
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    @Tomo

    There's a steam link app you can install on your shield which works more consistently to connect to the PC and start in Big Picture mode. Rather than using the GeForce Steam App - which has randomly started in big picture mode or just showing me the desktop of my pc with a controller in my hands which is very useless
  • Tomo 23 Mar 2020 09:15:25 17,630 posts
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    Oh right. Can't you just tell Steam on your PC to boot into Big Picture mode, then when you use Gamestream, it'll come up that way?
  • Gregolution 23 Mar 2020 09:22:24 9,976 posts
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    @Tomo

    But then it would do that whenever I'm at my pc no? I definitely don't want that. This is my work computer.

    It *should* work the way I configured it. Some software that speaks to steam should and can tell it to start in Big Picture mode. Steam link app does this.

    I'll be using it a lot during this lockdown and don't mind one time configuring to get it right - maybe there are a few things I can do now.

    But I want it to then work all the time, consistency is what I'm after.

    Over all it's potentially excellent and was flawless until the last couple of days. Testing continues!
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