Following Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition Page 8

  • PazJohnMitch 14 Jun 2020 17:27:42 15,801 posts
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    I pretty much have Cloud Affinity on all my links, plus with 3 hearts (that are all with Shulk).

    Not sure why but I still only have 3 skill trees for Reyn. Never entirely sure how to get more.

    Edited by PazJohnMitch at 17:29:11 14-06-2020
  • PazJohnMitch 14 Jun 2020 18:17:51 15,801 posts
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    Did a little digging and it appears I managed to avoid talking to 2 people entirely. Having now spoken to them I think I have a precursor quest to the one I need to unlock Reyn’s 4th tree.
  • GloatingSwine 19 Jun 2020 13:56:40 3,883 posts
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    PazJohnMitch wrote:
    Not sure why but I still only have 3 skill trees for Reyn. Never entirely sure how to get more.
    You get the fourth and fifth skill trees from quests.

    If someone has a quest marker and will only speak to one specific party member about it, it often means it's going to give you a skill tree.

    So talk to everyone, then talk to everyone again to register those affinity links because that will unlock more quests to do. 9-12 is a good time to talk to people to get them to talk about the most other people and get links.

    Edited by GloatingSwine at 13:57:06 19-06-2020
  • Mola_Ram 19 Jun 2020 14:02:25 23,707 posts
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    You could also just ignore Reyn, as he blows balls.

    Tbf he's not as irritating as Riki though.
  • Rhaegyr 19 Jun 2020 14:08:16 5,122 posts
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    Reyn gets in my party on quips alone.
  • DakeyrasUK 19 Jun 2020 14:32:52 4,180 posts
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    I'm now on chapter 9 and the story is getting more interesting. Was getting a little disinterested, mainly due to my issue with having to do all the quests in each area as and when I find them before moving on with the story.

    Am now about 46 hrs in, which is probably more than half spent on running around doing side quests and searching areas to fill out the maps.

    Am I wrong in thinking the original had a % of each map revealed and you got a bonus item for getting 100% (like with the collectopeadia) or was that some other game?
  • GloatingSwine 19 Jun 2020 16:28:55 3,883 posts
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    Mola_Ram wrote:
    You could also just ignore Reyn, as he blows balls.

    Tbf he's not as irritating as Riki though.
    Reyn is probably mechanically the strongest character. Berserker > Magnum Charge > Sword Drive is about the strongest hit you can deliver with anyone and he's borderline impossible to kill.

    Riki doesn't have the damage output of most of the others, but he's good at keeping the party up basically forever and grinding the enemy down with DoTs.
  • ghearoid 19 Jun 2020 16:46:33 3,574 posts
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    I started using Sharla, Riki and Melia once I got to Valak to build their affinity and those three were lethal. Sharla has this art called Headshot which can instakill dazed enemies and most of my fights were over very quickly.
  • Duffking 19 Jun 2020 17:47:56 16,599 posts
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    Dunban is the best tank imo, just stick enough agility up on him to get him to the +50 cap, only let him have light armour and he basically continuously holds aggro thanks to blinding blossom and peerless and can't be hit, especially if you skill link from (iirc) sharla and melia to get the two agility ups and use serene heart.

    I'm using Melia as my control char as she's devasting when used by the player (and a bit shit when used by the AI) and rotating the other party members through, apart from Sharla because she's largely unnecessary before post game.

    Edited by Duffking at 17:48:48 19-06-2020
  • GloatingSwine 19 Jun 2020 19:16:56 3,883 posts
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    That's a party where you really want to be driving Melia.

    The AI is decent at using Riki and Sharla*, but it absolutely sucks at using Melia, doesn't keep the right elements for buffs, doesn't make intelligent use of Summon Copy and doesn't fire elements as often as a player will so doesn't get into element burst as often. (And being in control of her lets you do her best trick, which is lining up her elements to fire off Earth and Ice in a chain attack at x4 and max multiplier, producing ludicrous DoTs)

    She probably has the widest gap between how a character performs in player and AI control.

    Riki and Melia have some good synergy, if you build Riki with all his ether moves (Behave, Burninate, Freezinate, Lurgy) they'll get boosted by Melia keeping a Bolt summon out for the aura. Behave gets good uptime on paralyse as well (Paralyse cuts enemy auto-attack rate by 75%). Different characters can apply the same DoT without conflict so they can both have Chill/Poison/Blaze running to make enemy hitpoints disappear on their own.

    Headshot's instakill isn't going to be terribly useful because anything you'd want it to work on it won't work on. It's more useful for the guaranteed crit. Sharla will basically always be the weakest character though, with only one red art she's bad in chains, and she's the only one whose talent gauge is bad for her, reducing her already low damage output.
  • Cadence 19 Jun 2020 19:34:36 2,481 posts
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    Is this game going to be any fun for someone (me) who understood absolutely nothing in the post above?
  • GloatingSwine 19 Jun 2020 19:56:36 3,883 posts
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    Yeah, you can do everything but a few superbosses and the new challenge mode time attacks without really learning more the basics of the battle system.
  • Mola_Ram 20 Jun 2020 05:57:40 23,707 posts
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    I'm sure Riki might be a good character in a gameplay sense. But even so I have a strong moral objection to ever even think about using him. Riki sucks mehmehmehmeh.
  • GloatingSwine 20 Jun 2020 08:02:10 3,883 posts
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    Such disrespect for legendary heropon Riki!
  • ghearoid 20 Jun 2020 08:06:47 3,574 posts
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    Oh, Riki angry. Meh meh meh meh meh!
  • Mola_Ram 20 Jun 2020 08:48:21 23,707 posts
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    He could literally be capable of one-shotting the final boss all by himself for all I know. I will never, ever put him in my party. Even when he's permanently benched his suckiness makes me angry.
  • The12thMonkey 20 Jun 2020 09:01:54 563 posts
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    Riki can win by himself!
  • DakeyrasUK 20 Jun 2020 09:19:42 4,180 posts
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    I think Mola is jealous of the mighty stomach of our Heropon...
  • Mola_Ram 20 Jun 2020 09:31:45 23,707 posts
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    Riki could take lessons from Jar Jar in how to be more charismatic and likable.
  • Mola_Ram 20 Jun 2020 09:39:54 23,707 posts
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    Oh, and that fucking tree is the worst area in the game by far.
  • DakeyrasUK 20 Jun 2020 11:00:16 4,180 posts
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    I have spent a fair amount of time in "that fucking tree"! Have now got it to 4 star affinity!

    Edited by DakeyrasUK at 11:00:25 20-06-2020
  • PazJohnMitch 20 Jun 2020 12:29:37 15,801 posts
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    Colony 6 is the only one I do not have 5 stars on.
  • PazJohnMitch 20 Jun 2020 15:27:24 15,801 posts
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    All 5 stars now!
  • GloatingSwine 20 Jun 2020 22:21:57 3,883 posts
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    Just recruited 7 and all is right with the world.
  • PazJohnMitch 21 Jun 2020 11:54:56 15,801 posts
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    I saw a level 100 gorilla/ golem thing on Valak mountain yesterday with a name like “Final Champion” and thought that must be the highest level monster in the game. That kind of made sense.

    This morning I bumped into a level 107 bunny on Satorl Marsh and now I am really confused.

    Edited by PazJohnMitch at 12:47:39 21-06-2020
  • ghearoid 21 Jun 2020 12:14:57 3,574 posts
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    I'm pretty sure I saw a 120 lvl beast one time. I skedaddled!
  • PazJohnMitch 21 Jun 2020 12:50:35 15,801 posts
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    Rikki’s Say Sorry skill feels like cheating. Load monster with debuffs then use Say Sorry and watch half its health bar disappear.

    Edited by PazJohnMitch at 12:50:49 21-06-2020
  • Mola_Ram 21 Jun 2020 12:51:48 23,707 posts
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    He should say sorry for existing.
  • PazJohnMitch 21 Jun 2020 14:01:53 15,801 posts
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    Finished upgrading Colony 6.
  • PazJohnMitch 21 Jun 2020 14:59:23 15,801 posts
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    Finished the story now.
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