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I'm not sure tbh, but I'm at a 2. I just don't like the idea of being followed on the internet purely for the purposes of profit. It's essentially monetising my personal data without informing me how/why/what etc. I realise loads of companies do this already, and I've probably fallen foul of it numerous times already, but that doesn't make it a free commodity. Give 'em an inch and all that. Plus, the internet was wholly preferable before all this Cookie notification bullshit. The cookies were probably being harvested for data mining before all of this stuff, but now there is an extra veneer of bullshit to wade through before you get what you want. It's all just a bit crappy. Bring back Geocities plz. |
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Tomo 17,805 posts
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Whoa 2? Whats that out of? -
Your-Mother 4,471 posts
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Registered 4 years agoThis all makes me SO ANGRY -
Tomo 17,805 posts
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Registered 17 years ago2 out of 5 George Foreman grills -
Graxlar_v3 10,212 posts
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Registered 3 years agoTomo wrote:
Great, now I am going to be getting George Foreman ads for the next 3 months.
2 out of 5 George Foreman grills -
Tomo 17,805 posts
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Registered 17 years agoShadow Gangs is the best game ever!
Shadow Gangs buy!
Shadow Gangs favourite like! -
Tomo 17,805 posts
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Registered 17 years agoI hope that helps with more appropriately targeted ads. -
neilka 23,404 posts
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Registered 15 years agoWould anyone like their cookies tossed? -
Tomo 17,805 posts
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Registered 17 years ago@neilka
do you toss salad as well? -
orpheus 1,867 posts
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Registered 12 years agogamingdave wrote:
Quite. It's a shitshow across the whole internet. Sadly enforcement is often underfunded and can take a long time. However, hopefully by drawing attention to these shitty practices, we can help put a stop to them.
uBlock and PB are the way forward.
EGs policy isn't GDPR compliant, the ability to decline cookies isn't given the same prominence as accept and is on a second screen. It's also not clearly labelled as decline, but as "save settings" which forces the user to check none have defaulted to on.
But good luck finding a major site, especially a news orientated one out there who is!
So many still don't let you properly opt out, or make it harder to opt out than in, which is not allowed.
Doesn't help when most are using off the shelf solutions, and those providers themselves are making non-compliant plugins. They should, but if they did, site operators would choose one of the alternatives because they would really rather not have people decline.
TheDailyMash is probably the closest to being clear
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I don't mind seeing ads, but I do mind companies that I don't even know the name of building up extensive profiles of my online behavior, to be sold to the highest bidder.
It becomes worse when you know that they do this for everyone and that this data might be abused for political targeting, denying people insurance, or other actions that go way beyond "hey look at this useless shit you might want to buy". -
beastmaster 20,909 posts
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Registered 16 years agoDeleted user wrote:
I worked for one of these companies but it was for behaviour tracking and targeting. There’s also the advertising stuff that you get now which we were involved in in its infancy. We had massive household names as clients and they are VERY protective of their data.
I don't mind seeing ads, but I do mind companies that I don't even know the name of building up extensive profiles of my online behavior, to be sold to the highest bidder.
It becomes worse when you know that they do this for everyone and that this data might be abused for political targeting, denying people insurance, or other actions that go way beyond "hey look at this useless shit you might want to buy".
Insurance companies can use this tech to check for online fraud when you are looking for a quote. Don’t like the quote you got so fancy changing something to see if you can get a lower quote? They know. If you’re not careful you’ll get blacklisted.
Absolutely fascinating place to work. Behaviourals are extremely accurate and email campaigns based on the data collected are extremely effective. -
ZuluHero 8,925 posts
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Registered 14 years agoTalking about behaviour, did someone just quit? -
challenge_hanukkah 12,836 posts
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Registered 7 years agoGuybrush again? -
Tomo 17,805 posts
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Registered 17 years agobeastmaster wrote:
Ugh this is so depressing.
Deleted user wrote:
I worked for one of these companies but it was for behaviour tracking and targeting. There’s also the advertising stuff that you get now which we were involved in in its infancy. We had massive household names as clients and they are VERY protective of their data.
I don't mind seeing ads, but I do mind companies that I don't even know the name of building up extensive profiles of my online behavior, to be sold to the highest bidder.
It becomes worse when you know that they do this for everyone and that this data might be abused for political targeting, denying people insurance, or other actions that go way beyond "hey look at this useless shit you might want to buy".
Insurance companies can use this tech to check for online fraud when you are looking for a quote. Don’t like the quote you got so fancy changing something to see if you can get a lower quote? They know. If you’re not careful you’ll get blacklisted.
Absolutely fascinating place to work. Behaviourals are extremely accurate and email campaigns based on the data collected are extremely effective. -
simpleexplodingmaybe 13,958 posts
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Registered 5 years agobeastmaster wrote:
Academically I find it fascinating but socially/personally it creeps me out a bit
Deleted user wrote:
I worked for one of these companies but it was for behaviour tracking and targeting. There’s also the advertising stuff that you get now which we were involved in in its infancy. We had massive household names as clients and they are VERY protective of their data.
I don't mind seeing ads, but I do mind companies that I don't even know the name of building up extensive profiles of my online behavior, to be sold to the highest bidder.
It becomes worse when you know that they do this for everyone and that this data might be abused for political targeting, denying people insurance, or other actions that go way beyond "hey look at this useless shit you might want to buy".
Insurance companies can use this tech to check for online fraud when you are looking for a quote. Don’t like the quote you got so fancy changing something to see if you can get a lower quote? They know. If you’re not careful you’ll get blacklisted.
Absolutely fascinating place to work. Behaviourals are extremely accurate and email campaigns based on the data collected are extremely effective. -
ZuluHero 8,925 posts
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Registered 14 years agoIt's OK to change some options though as long as your not changing something fundamental about the thing you want to insure?
Take a car for example, you might not want to have legal protection, or a guaranteed replacement car, or breakdown cover, or pay more/less excess, there are loads of tweaks to make a quote more acceptable without performing fraud.
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orpheus 1,867 posts
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Registered 12 years agoTomo wrote:
The deleted user is spot on. The more info they hold, the more nefarious purposes are possible.
beastmaster wrote:
Ugh this is so depressing.
Deleted user wrote:
I worked for one of these companies but it was for behaviour tracking and targeting. There’s also the advertising stuff that you get now which we were involved in in its infancy. We had massive household names as clients and they are VERY protective of their data.
I don't mind seeing ads, but I do mind companies that I don't even know the name of building up extensive profiles of my online behavior, to be sold to the highest bidder.
It becomes worse when you know that they do this for everyone and that this data might be abused for political targeting, denying people insurance, or other actions that go way beyond "hey look at this useless shit you might want to buy".
Insurance companies can use this tech to check for online fraud when you are looking for a quote. Don’t like the quote you got so fancy changing something to see if you can get a lower quote? They know. If you’re not careful you’ll get blacklisted.
Absolutely fascinating place to work. Behaviourals are extremely accurate and email campaigns based on the data collected are extremely effective.
What's telling about Beastmaster's post is that these companies do indeed think of it as 'their data' - your choices, your behaviour, your views and interests and friend connections and location and everything else they gather is 'their data' and they will do with it as they please.
It's not their data. It's your data. This is why the GDPR exists - to reset that balance back in our favour. It's also why it's so utterly shitty to see sites like Eurogamer (or rather, their parent company) deny functionality unless you submit, like good little slaves.
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mothercruncher 17,828 posts
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Registered 14 years agoYep. The stick, rather than carrot, approach is wrong-headed. It just makes a section of the site I barely used even less useful. -
Kyuuu23 1 posts
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Registered 2 months agoI was wonder why I could not get videos to work I had to white list onetrust.com in ublock origin to get cookie that is part of eurogamers cookies just to get the pop up accept all this to get the videos to work, seeing I delete cookies every time I close firefox,
I just White listed cookies *eurogamer.net got the cookie for that need onetrust.com to be white listed in ublock origin (which just part of the eurogamer.net cookie) and revert the ublock changes.
I was wonder for why for month of show video would not work.
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Fake_Blood 10,442 posts
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Registered 11 years agoSee that’s too much hassle, I’m not going to bother with the content if I have to jump through hoops. Last time I wanted to search for a review I couldn’t because of a similar problem, so I just went to another site. -
Mr_Sleep 23,445 posts
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Registered 18 years agoorpheus wrote:
Jared Lenier has some interesting ideas related to this. He thinks that all our data should belong to us which would allow us to trade our information to make money from advertising. Or at least I think that was the gist of what he was saying. He has been on a few podcasts recently, I can't quite remember which one it was. Anyway, worth looking into.
Tomo wrote:
The deleted user is spot on. The more info they hold, the more nefarious purposes are possible.
beastmaster wrote:
Ugh this is so depressing.
Deleted user wrote:
I worked for one of these companies but it was for behaviour tracking and targeting. There’s also the advertising stuff that you get now which we were involved in in its infancy. We had massive household names as clients and they are VERY protective of their data.
I don't mind seeing ads, but I do mind companies that I don't even know the name of building up extensive profiles of my online behavior, to be sold to the highest bidder.
It becomes worse when you know that they do this for everyone and that this data might be abused for political targeting, denying people insurance, or other actions that go way beyond "hey look at this useless shit you might want to buy".
Insurance companies can use this tech to check for online fraud when you are looking for a quote. Don’t like the quote you got so fancy changing something to see if you can get a lower quote? They know. If you’re not careful you’ll get blacklisted.
Absolutely fascinating place to work. Behaviourals are extremely accurate and email campaigns based on the data collected are extremely effective.
What's telling about Beastmaster's post is that these companies do indeed think of it as 'their data' - your choices, your behaviour, your views and interests and friend connections and location and everything else they gather is 'their data' and they will do with it as they please.
It's not their data. It's your data. This is why the GDPR exists - to reset that balance back in our favour. It's also why it's so utterly shitty to see sites like Eurogamer (or rather, their parent company) deny functionality unless you submit, like good little slaves. -
askew 21,552 posts
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Registered 15 years agoInsurance companies can use this tech to check for online fraud when you are looking for a quote. Don’t like the quote you got so fancy changing something to see if you can get a lower quote? They know. If you’re not careful you’ll get blacklisted.
Uh oh. I like to play with the calculator and see how much it'd cost me to run something outlandish, or if I was CEO, or if I had the title of Major. -
sherpa1984 847 posts
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Registered 13 years agoEG my dudes- you are my favourite site; you gave me a Hearthstone beta key many years ago.
You are welcome to feed me generic adverts: I have disabled my ad blocker on your site. But now you won't show me media unless I allow you to act as a tunnel for ad companies to harvest my data?
No dice. -
dominalien 9,652 posts
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Registered 14 years agoI’m glad there are some people who pay attention to this. The people I know irl will click accept on anything just to get to the next piece of media. -
mothercruncher 17,828 posts
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Registered 14 years agoFake_Blood wrote:
Yep, this.
See that’s too much hassle, I’m not going to bother with the content if I have to jump through hoops. Last time I wanted to search for a review I couldn’t because of a similar problem, so I just went to another site. -
sherpa1984 wrote:
This. Apart from the Hearthstone beta key. I didn't get that.
EG my dudes- you are my favourite site; you gave me a Hearthstone beta key many years ago.
You are welcome to feed me generic adverts: I have disabled my ad blocker on your site. But now you won't show me media unless I allow you to act as a tunnel for ad companies to harvest my data?
No dice.
Using the site is becoming frustrating and maybe I just won't anymore. Thanks Orpheus for starting this topic. It had been bothering me for some time as well, but the lack of search options in the forum stopped me from posting.
Edited by ElectricPenguin at 14:20:34 04-07-2020
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