30 day press up challenge Page 2

  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 18 May 2020 12:47:50 24,280 posts
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    It's really not.
  • Dirt3 18 May 2020 12:52:09 977 posts
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    I think it is pretty hard too.

    If you are coming from a reasonable base, OK, but a lot of people will struggle to do 10 good form press ups. You really need some sort of formula that you input the base number you can do, and then it comes up with what you can achieve in a month.

    I think the ramp up needs to be slower.
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 18 May 2020 12:55:36 24,280 posts
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    Yeah it's obviously hard and aimed at people with a good level of fitness and upper body strength already. But doing 50 push ups a day isn't going to cause a lot of injuries.
  • ZuluHero 18 May 2020 12:56:38 8,623 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    It really is. Especially given most people do pushups with shit form at the best of times.

    The other one posted in the musings thread is a far more sensible setup.
    What was that one?
  • sport 18 May 2020 13:00:57 15,859 posts
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    Decks wrote:
    Yeah it's obviously hard and aimed at people with a good level of fitness and upper body strength already. But doing 50 push ups a day isn't going to cause a lot of injuries.
    Watch those wrists mate, esp if you're creeping close to "mid-life".

    /looks at fucked up wrist
  • Rodney 18 May 2020 13:01:00 4,261 posts
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    I think to get to 100 reps most people would need a bit more of a structured progression and more variety.

    So some days you'd do lower reps with weights vest / chains, other days you'd do higher reps (100+) but with assistance (rubber bands), and also just normal max reps, while decreasing rest times.

    Also adding in other exercises to build the supporting muscles would help, like pull ups for lat strength and leg raises/planks to build core strength.

    To jump from 50 reps on day 29 to 100 reps on day 30 you'd need a really solid base to start with.
  • Psychotext 18 May 2020 13:04:05 66,584 posts
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    ZuluHero wrote:
    What was that one?
    Nexus_6 posted this one: https://imgur.com/gallery/0RYJJUz
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 18 May 2020 13:06:53 24,280 posts
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    Yeah that ones 100% better if you're just starting out. Utterly pointless if you can already do 50 push ups though. Which is kind of what this one is aimed at.
  • Dougs 18 May 2020 13:07:02 93,552 posts
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    That looks much more achievable!
  • Psychotext 18 May 2020 13:07:52 66,584 posts
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    Decks wrote:
    Yeah that ones 100% better if you're just starting out. Utterly pointless if you can already do 50 push ups though. Which is kind of what this one is aimed at.
    Hence my post about not trying it unless you're already particularly good at them.

    Only a tiny percentage of the population could knock out 50 pushups with good form.

    Edit - Though it's clearly not targetted at that group or the first five days are just a waste of time. It's just a flat out bad program.

    Edited by Psychotext at 13:16:41 18-05-2020
  • Dirt3 18 May 2020 13:14:35 977 posts
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    Decks wrote:
    Yeah it's obviously hard and aimed at people with a good level of fitness and upper body strength already. But doing 50 push ups a day isn't going to cause a lot of injuries.
    I agree with that - for me it is hard to injure yourself doing push ups, you either can or can't and I guess most people are similar.

    That said I am sure someone somewhere has managed it.
  • sport 18 May 2020 13:16:02 15,859 posts
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    I thought we were supposed to take pressure OFF the NHS.
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 18 May 2020 13:17:52 24,280 posts
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    OK if anyone dies I promise to send their widow a ham.
  • Psychotext 18 May 2020 13:18:02 66,584 posts
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    Dirt3 wrote:
    I agree with that - for me it is hard to injure yourself doing push ups, you either can or can't and I guess most people are similar.

    That said I am sure someone somewhere has managed it.
    Mostly overuse injuries. Rotator cuff, elbows, wrists.

    Not uncommon at all.

    Also scapular issues if you're not moving your shoulders properly.

    Edited by Psychotext at 13:19:51 18-05-2020
  • Dirt3 18 May 2020 13:19:37 977 posts
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    sport wrote:
    I thought we were supposed to take pressure OFF the NHS.
    We probably are long term ! It's amazing how correlated stuff like this is to how long you can live.

    Anyway, we have two programs, one for the challenged and one for the iron men and we can pick which one we want.
  • Dirt3 18 May 2020 13:20:18 977 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    Dirt3 wrote:
    I agree with that - for me it is hard to injure yourself doing push ups, you either can or can't and I guess most people are similar.

    That said I am sure someone somewhere has managed it.
    Mostly overuse injuries. Rotator cuff, elbows, wrists.

    Not uncommon at all.

    Also scapular issues if you're not moving your shoulders properly.
    OK I bow to your greater knowledge.
  • Blakester 18 May 2020 13:21:06 4,977 posts
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    I can do 100 press ups a day, spread across 3 or 4 sessions, but I don't see any type of scenario where I can do 100 with good form in one sitting - and I'm on week 9.
  • sport 18 May 2020 13:21:23 15,859 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    Dirt3 wrote:
    I agree with that - for me it is hard to injure yourself doing push ups, you either can or can't and I guess most people are similar.

    That said I am sure someone somewhere has managed it.
    Mostly overuse injuries. Rotator cuff, elbows, wrists.

    Not uncommon at all.
    Yup, bloody joints. I got no prob on the muscle front, but my left wrist is fucked and my right shoulder is iffy. Left knee can also be problem sometimes.
  • Mola_Ram 18 May 2020 13:22:02 23,501 posts
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    Clearly Decks is already pretty swole.
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 18 May 2020 13:23:25 24,280 posts
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    Blakester wrote:
    I can do 100 press ups a day, spread across 3 or 4 sessions, but I don't see any type of scenario where I can do 100 with good form in one sitting - and I'm on week 9.
    That's because you didn't follow this program.
  • Psychotext 18 May 2020 13:26:23 66,584 posts
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    sport wrote:
    Yup, bloody joints. I got no prob on the muscle front, but my left wrist is fucked and my right shoulder is iffy. Left knee can also be problem sometimes.
    Too much benching / too many pushups and my right front delt gets tighter and tighter until it inevitably tears, even if I'm doing a shitload more antagonistic movements. Stupid bodies.
  • Derblington 18 May 2020 13:27:37 32,900 posts
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    The progression in this is questionable. Itís steep as fuck.
  • KnuttinAtoll 18 May 2020 13:33:40 8,089 posts
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    So which is better then, do as many repeats as you can during one session, or doing sets with a couple of minutes break inbetween?

    I'm doing the latter, my limit is 3 * 10 at the moment. I only started a couple months ago though and might only do 2-3 of these per week so not very consistent.

    I remember I could do 70-80 a few years back, but that'd be in sets of 10, no chance of that many in one go even when I was in better shape.

    Edited by KnuttinAtoll at 13:34:55 18-05-2020
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 18 May 2020 13:33:57 24,280 posts
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    I just pray to god that the good people of coachmag.co.uk aren't reading this. I for one will be completing their 30 day press up challenge and will be sending them a letter of thanks after I have achieved greatness.
  • Psychotext 18 May 2020 13:38:00 66,584 posts
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    This was the end result of the last two completions:

  • Mola_Ram 18 May 2020 13:41:10 23,501 posts
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    When do the handstand press-ups come in? Hopefully not at least until the second week.
  • Nexus_6 18 May 2020 13:49:24 4,856 posts
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    @KnuttinAtoll I do reps of 10 or 15 (depending on the style of press-up) and try to do them to failure. IE i can manage 200 press-ups in a session but by the 8th or 9th rep in a set getting close to the 200 mark I am seriously struggling to maintain form.

    My mate Arnold has told me that's where the gains come - right at the point of failure.
  • KnuttinAtoll 18 May 2020 13:57:21 8,089 posts
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    @Nexus_6 Interesting. When you say point of failure, does that mean in each set? If I tried that, I'd probably go 20/12/2 or something like that...
  • ZuluHero 18 May 2020 14:01:53 8,623 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    ZuluHero wrote:
    What was that one?
    Nexus_6 posted this one: https://imgur.com/gallery/0RYJJUz
    Yeah, i'm going with that one. Sorry Decks!
  • Nexus_6 18 May 2020 14:03:02 4,856 posts
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    @KnuttinAtoll Yes, in each set. Well, kind of.
    I can do the first 7 or 8 sets of 15 no problems with 30 or 60 seconds rest in between.
    It starts getting more difficult on reps 10-15 of the following sets and then reps 6-15 of the final couple.
    Thats where the real progress is made though, in pushing through the really difficult ones while maintaining form. If I sag them out and push unevenly and not down fully etc then it's not really helping, so maintaining form is really important.
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