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I actually think the era which is currently aged in a way which I find hardest to play and love right now is probably a lot of the stuff from around the time of the original Xbox. The evolutionary steps it was making from previous gens now feel clunky and awkward without the charm of being truly retro yet. The graphics as well blocky and ugly without the warmth of nostalgia. It’s a middle ground which is both comparatively under developed from a modern perspective and a step away from what current nostalgia trends celebrate. |
How many console generations back are you willing to go with your gaming? • Page 2
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simpleexplodingmaybe 19,992 posts
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glo 3,797 posts
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Registered 19 years agoFor me personally, good games from the SNES/megadrive era are still playable. The occasional exceptional game pre that era are still worth my time but most are difficult to enjoy these days.
I think that many of the early 3D games from the PS1 period have aged worse than the 16bit pixel stuff and would struggle with their low poly models these days. -
Rogueywon 12,387 posts
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Registered 16 years ago@simpleexplodingmaybe I think there's a kind of uncanny valley of nostalgia which always tracks a set distance behind the present. A few years back, PS1/N64 games seemed the height of jankiness. Now, they've got a certain blocky charm. But PS2/XBox games... the last generation of standard-def consoles, so their games look particularly horrid when upscaled. Those low-resolution textures and tiny view-distances can be really painful.
And it's not just that... control schemes were all over the show and it was only towards the end of the generation that developers got a handle on how to do first-person controls on a pad. Plus with storage limits and development budgets as they were, full voicing still wasn't possible for many games, so you got a lot of titles where you either had a random mix of voiced and unvoiced lines, or else only the first two or three words of each line were voiced. Oh, and it was the last generation to use memory cards rather than hard drives (PS2 and GC, at least), which is awkward on the original hardware and irritating under emulation.
I'm sure in a few years time, the nostalgia wave will catch up with that gen and we'll all be going "eeew" at 360/PS3 games.
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Samildanach 641 posts
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Registered 5 years agoI might be tempted to have a go at an old Gameboy game at some point, I guess I properly started gaming there, so the nostalgia does help a lot. Although the Gameboy is apparently the same generation as SNES and actually more powerful a processor than NES (or so I've been led to believe) so I am still only back to the 4th generation.
Great to hear the love of those really old games and systems though. I don't think even nostalgia would bring me back to play any BBC Micro games for more than a couple of minutes. -
simpleexplodingmaybe 19,992 posts
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Registered 6 years ago@Rogueywon I’m 100% with you on this -
Samildanach 641 posts
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Interesting point on the 'uncanny valley' effect of about two generations back. I do have little desire to revisted the 3D games of the PS2 generation as my memory of them on the whole is a lots of smudgy browns, greys and blues. -
Saul_Iscariot 4,399 posts
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Registered 9 years agoI still think gameplay can elevate a ‘dreary’ looking game. The same goes for stylised graphics. It is why I think Tetris on the Gameboy holds up. There are versions with outstanding graphics. I just got PSVR, so Tetris Effect will be picked up at some point. But the fundamentals are where the appeal lies.
Having played MGS: Twin Snakes on the GC, I wouldn’t want to revisit it on the PS1. The BBC Micro holds a fondness for me, just because Donkey Kong on it was so great, and Elite. There were other games that got played to death, but I have little interest in replaying them. -
Darren 9,637 posts
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Registered 17 years agoI play so many games across four different platforms (well, three since I hardly use my Xbox One X these days) that I don't really tend to play older games except for some Wii U games via emulation on my PC using Cemu. Typically, most games I tend to play are ones released in the last 5-10 years but mostly in the last 5 years. -
ghearoid 3,758 posts
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Registered 19 years agoI just go back as far as my Gameboy Advance and GameCube exclusives as I think the games still look good on the original hardware. I've tried earlier stuff, but I just can't go back now. -
C64/Speccy is fine for me as it's what I grew up with. If anything I'm increasingly put off of current gen cinematic games with realistic graphics. I want my games to look and play like games rather than interactive films. -
simpleexplodingmaybe 19,992 posts
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Registered 6 years ago@Saul_Iscariot I haven’t played it in VR but Tetris Effect is brilliant. The best Tetris I’ve played since the Game Boy. -
Pipedream 658 posts
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Registered 8 years agoDoes the 3DS count?
If so give a me 3DS so I can play all those lovely games plus DS titles. -
Not-a-reviewer 7,686 posts
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Registered 7 years agoI barely have time to play new ones so there’s no chance of me fitting in older ones too. I played them at the time and my memory of most of them is probably better than the experience I would have of them now. -
hedben2013 2,261 posts
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Registered 9 years agoI'd play this for the nostalgia so that's not really a console generation thing.
But if we're talking games I've never played before, x360 is pretty much the limit. Sure I'd try out earlier games that I missed first time around, but I wouldn't go looking for them -
Rogueywon 12,387 posts
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Registered 16 years agoThe leaked Gran Turismo 7 footage looking a bit ropey still, I see... -
richardiox 10,097 posts
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Registered 17 years agoI've been playing loads of SSX3 (OG Xbox) but thanks to the wonders of the Xbox One X it's in glorious 4K and pin sharp to the point of virtually looking like a modern game. Levels also load in under 5 seconds. -
Mola_Ram 26,187 posts
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Registered 9 years agoI'd still happily play SNES games (via emulation). The only thing I'd really avoid after that is the PSX/N64/Saturn generation. Because early polygon graphics look really, really rough. Much worse than the nice sprites of the SNES era
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foster2007 336 posts
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Registered 14 years agops2 is as far back as i can tolerate, anything before that makes my eyes bleed -
DUFFMAN5 26,890 posts
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Registered 17 years agoC64:
I will still have a game of two of:
US Gold's "Winter, California etal Games"
Leaderboard
The Last Ninja games.
But for any substantial playtime. Gamecube,PS2, Xbox. I still own all 3 consoles.
I had a gap between playing my C-64 and then getting a PS1. I have played odds and sods of the consoles and games between the 2 but nowt worth talking about. -
Trafford 9,358 posts
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Registered 14 years agoI'd rather play modern games influenced by older games.
Back in my youth I was glued to arcade machines like Galaxian, Defender, Pac-Man or Asteroids.
Luckily I can play newer examples of these.
If I'm hankering for some old style graphics I am catered for with games like Dead Cells or Fez without the clunk.
I've been playing videogames for over 40 years and have had a half decade off now and again.
Don't really feel the need to properly recapture
those early days.
Another case in point, I recently started playing Elite Dangerous, making good headway and loving it. Back in the day my young self got caught up in the hype and bought the game, but never actually managed to dock a ship with just a keyboard. I was more of an Ultimate Play the Game fanboy back the. -
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I was a master at docking with the keyboard in Elite back in the day. I recall I got to 'Deadly' ranking but never made it to Elite. It's suprising that what essentially amounted to a mini game (shoot ships, trade goods) seemed so expansive and mysterious at the time. -
Dr-Strangelove 2,309 posts
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Registered 17 years agoThese are not console game but some Amiga games are still great fun, speedball 2 and super cars 2 being pretty superb.
And I mosly played Elite on the Beeb and bits on the Amiga, its funny how (along with the great manual) I created a role playing world in my head for it especially considering how simple the 3d was compared to now.
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PazJohnMitch 17,276 posts
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Registered 14 years agoI rarely play games that are not released for the current generation.
It is not that I need modern graphics but is more the comfort of modern checkpoints. I like feeling that I have made progress.
I do still play older games but they are generally from the SNES / MD era.
There are not really any games earlier than that I would want to play. The older controls are generally too big a barrier. (This is also true of some 16 bit games, such as Flashback which I recently tried). -
Fonzie 3,492 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI could easily still play Amiga games. The only downside would be the disc changing during loading times with some of the larger games like point and click adventures. I remember Monkey Island 2 and Willy Beamish being particularly bad. -
Pierre2k 1,466 posts
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Registered 9 years agoAgree with a lot of the general points here:
- most old 8-bit games can feel dated (exceptions being things like the Mario games
- old 2D has aged better than PS1-era 3D.
Saturn is my favourite console, so I can happily go and play that without issue. That said, some of the early 3rd party 3D games on that system are beyond dreadful. Sega seemed better at building 3D control schemes.
16-bit era, no problem.
One of my main issues with playing old consoles now is that many of my favourite games back in the day were arcade ports. Playing Final Fight on Amiga, Double Dragon on C64, Chase HQ 2 on C64 etc. However, with MAME there is rarely any point in playing crippled console ports of arcade games now. I'd rather just play an emulation of the actual arcade young me would have been blown away that you can play the actual arcade so easily. -
TechnoHippy 19,245 posts
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Registered 18 years agoDoom is probably the oldest game I'll replay with any regularity. -
SnackPlissken 3,512 posts
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Registered 4 years agoglo wrote:
Agree with this. Tried playing a bunch of N64 games a while back and wow... and have aged terribly.
I think that many of the early 3D games from the PS1 period have aged worse than the 16bit pixel stuff and would struggle with their low poly models these days. -
Fake_Blood 11,093 posts
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Registered 12 years agonudistpete wrote:
I’ve just ordered one, been hearing a lot of good things about them. I’ve always felt that emulation was good but never felt as snappy as back in the day. Indeed not cheap but no holidays this year so fuck it.
Fake_Blood wrote:
No, but I desperately want one after watching RetroManCave trying it out. Problem is that once you add in all the bits and pieces you need to play stuff it's not cheap. Unsure how I could hide the costs from my wife....
Anyone here have a mister fpga? -
Rogueywon 12,387 posts
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Registered 16 years agoSnackPlissken wrote:
It varies a bit, doesn't it? Mario 64 still looks very decent indeed - nice clean lines, fluid movement, lots of character. Zelda's a bit more borderline, Starfox 64 is pretty bad and most of the third party games are awful.
glo wrote:
Agree with this. Tried playing a bunch of N64 games a while back and wow... and have aged terribly.
I think that many of the early 3D games from the PS1 period have aged worse than the 16bit pixel stuff and would struggle with their low poly models these days.
Similarly, over on the PS1, Final Fantasy VII still has a real charm to its visuals and Gran Turismo 2 looks far better than any racing game of its vintage has any right to. But many other titles, including other Final Fantasy games, are a juddery mess. -
I know the concept of generations is a little bit funky on PC, but a few friends and I decided to give Unreal 1 and Jedi Knight multiplayer a go at a couple of points over lockdown. I have no idea what does it but there's something about that generation that absolutely wears my eyes out in ways that modern games don't do any more.
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