Following Marvel's Avengers Page 7

  • StarchildHypocrethes 15 Aug 2020 20:05:30 33,974 posts
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    creepiest-lizard wrote:
    What really surprises me is how crap it looks. Terrible motion blur, erratic framerates, basic textures, artistically bland. You sort of expect these top tier games to at least look the part nowadays.
    The "Hold X to admire this archaic rendering of a waterfall" bit was an interesting inclusion.
  • mumtoucher 15 Aug 2020 20:05:55 805 posts
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    @ZuluHero I was literally coming on here to say it feels like a 360 game. Not even a good one.

    I quite liked it yesterday but it’s got very old very quick, the combat just isn’t responsive and punchy enough and is outright bad when facing multiple opponents.

    Nevermind. Won’t be buying it now.
  • Ultrasoundwave 15 Aug 2020 20:08:10 6,439 posts
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    JamboWayOh wrote:
    Ultrasoundwave wrote:
    Dazimus wrote:
    This is the latest “it’s cool to hate it” game.
    Even though I won’t stick with it long term, I definitely don’t hate it.

    It’s clear that Square Enix wanted a Destiny/The Division-type game with The Avengers in it, and that’s what they’ve made.

    The same people who play and love those games will eat this up and lose hundreds of hours in it, where as I play those games once through and I’m done, so I can’t see this game being any different.
    You say that but the only reason people put hundreds of hours into Destiny is because the core combat loot is legit satisfying despite having repetitive tasks, this is not.
    Couldn’t agree more.

    The reason Destiny and The Division were (are) both so popular is because their gameplay loops are both enjoyable.

    Avengers is highly repetitive and button mashy, which is why it won’t get into that echelon of games....I still think millions will put hundreds of hours into it though.
  • JamboWayOh 15 Aug 2020 20:41:10 25,236 posts
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    Ultrasoundwave wrote:
    JamboWayOh wrote:
    Ultrasoundwave wrote:
    Dazimus wrote:
    This is the latest “it’s cool to hate it” game.
    Even though I won’t stick with it long term, I definitely don’t hate it.

    It’s clear that Square Enix wanted a Destiny/The Division-type game with The Avengers in it, and that’s what they’ve made.

    The same people who play and love those games will eat this up and lose hundreds of hours in it, where as I play those games once through and I’m done, so I can’t see this game being any different.
    You say that but the only reason people put hundreds of hours into Destiny is because the core combat loot is legit satisfying despite having repetitive tasks, this is not.
    I still think millions will put hundreds of hours into it though.
    I don't think I've ever seen someone so overly optimistic veering into madness. Millions? Putting hundreds of hours into a multiplayer that consists of defeating waves of enemies and standing on a glowing rectangle? Really?

    Edited by JamboWayOh at 20:43:46 15-08-2020
  • creepiest-lizard 15 Aug 2020 20:48:42 2,977 posts
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    The fact that it's the Avengers will guarantee a few million kids but a long term live service..hmm. I see it massively tanking.
  • JamboWayOh 15 Aug 2020 20:49:58 25,236 posts
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    Yeah, I can't see millions of people staying the course with this over time.

    Edited by JamboWayOh at 20:51:48 15-08-2020
  • johnnyrocketfingers 15 Aug 2020 20:50:30 380 posts
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    Tried the beta..it feels weird to have health bars to deal with on some people like Hulk and Thor.

    Captain America was probably the most satisfying to play, feels wise.
  • ChiefGB 15 Aug 2020 22:54:08 13,815 posts
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    I don’t think a “beefy pc” will change up the tired gameplay and button mashing, but yeah it may well feel a whole lot smoother. I didn’t really have an issue with the fr on pro or graphics in general anyway. It’s just dull to play (for me). There may possibly be some nuance to combat but it does a terrible job of showing it and little incentive to explore it (so far).
    Maybe I need to get past hulk and ms fantastic, because it’s really uninspiring so far and going from the opening mission iron man isn’t much better. Black widow MIGHT be a bit more fun.
  • Decks 15 Aug 2020 23:00:27 31,013 posts
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    Just read a hands on of the full game on IGN and they're saying Spiderman is a real game changer apparently. Saying the combo system with him makes it feel like Ninja Garden. And they tried the Virgin media suits and apparently they add 18 different combos to each character. Really starting to look forward to it now.
  • Your-Mother 15 Aug 2020 23:05:53 8,172 posts
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    What do you have planted in your Ninja Garden
  • dfunked09 15 Aug 2020 23:11:02 2,406 posts
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    I was a bit positive about performance on a one X previously. Spot on in story missions, but as soon as you drift into the multiplayer part it just goes to absolute shit. Pretty sure I could count the frames at some points.

    Probably something I'd pick up after the PS5 launches if it's going for a tenner, but it's not something I'm rushing out to buy this gen.

    Is it cross save ala Destiny 2?..
  • dfunked09 15 Aug 2020 23:11:04 2,406 posts
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  • Decks 15 Aug 2020 23:12:05 31,013 posts
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    Took a long time to write that drunk so I'll take it. Tried to think of a ninja weapon that sounded like a flower or plant but there was nothing obvious.
  • Ultrasoundwave 15 Aug 2020 23:24:54 6,439 posts
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    @JamboWayOh

    This game will sell millions of copies and a lot of those people will put hundreds of hours into it.

    That’s really not as wild of a statement as you think it is.
  • JamboWayOh 15 Aug 2020 23:31:03 25,236 posts
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    You seem to have seen some deepness to the game that I can't see.
  • DFawkes 16 Aug 2020 00:02:38 32,785 posts
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    I feel like they've built a decent foundation to build on. It sort of reminds me of Dynasty Warriors in that difficulty level changes how it feels, with button mashing working on lower difficulties but getting ineffective the higher you crank it up.

    For example, I found counters a bit tricky at first because each hero has a different one used in a different way. Black Widow's counter actually closes distance with a single targeted enemy, whilst Iron Man's counter has some pushback and breaks enemies meaning you actually want to be right in the fray, which means you're balancing that with backing off for ranged attacks. Ms Marvel relies on dodges at first but gets her own optional counters as upgrade which also includes a decent counter-attack none of the other heroes have. Hulk doesn't have a counter in the same way as he's more about managing rage properly so you're using rage to shrug off/heal from larger attacks.

    I'm not saying it's the deepest game in the world, but there's plenty there to learn in the beta for those that enjoy it with just parts of the skill trees available.
  • oldskooldeano 16 Aug 2020 11:26:00 3,496 posts
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    ZuluHero wrote:
    I'm struggling with these destiny-like comparisons and the derivative restrictive single player experience I had with it.

    What am I missing?
    Each character has a different play style (Hunter/Warlock/Titan)
    Each character has a unique customisable skill tree (sub classes)
    Each character has unique heroic attacks (Grenade/Melee/Super)
    Missions are short repeatable runs with loot opportunities based on difficulty, with matchmaking (Strikes and Nightfalls)
    Gear has rarity and random stats (More division/anthem in this regard)
    There is a pay shop with cosmetics
    There are daily challenges
    There are collections that probably reward some unique item/title
    Randoms in matchmaking are mostly idiots

    As an ex long term Destiny player I see the analogy quite clearly.
  • oldskooldeano 16 Aug 2020 11:33:47 3,496 posts
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    @ZuluHero no 'tower' to speak of but it looks like your hq (heli carrier?) will get updated as you unlock stuff through the campaign.
    You do need to get through those two fairly lengthy starting missions, before you end up with Kamala and Bruce in the HQ and use JARVIS to pick missions. There are quite a few in the demo as well.
  • PierrePressure 16 Aug 2020 12:18:34 1,478 posts
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    Watched my 13 year old on this in order to get the free items for Fortnite.

    Didn't look too bad but I'm mostly a single player kind of person so probably not for me in the long run.

    The lad seemed to like it though.
  • Tuffty 16 Aug 2020 22:29:55 4,954 posts
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    Had the beta just been those 2 missions I wouldnt have the best impression of the game, but playing as Black Widow and Iron Man in a few of those missions started to click and feel really good. I can see some of the Destiny comparisons while the combat felt pretty intricate and flowed pretty well and it being with Marvel characters...I dunno, something about it all felt pretty good.

    Where is this article that talks about the impressions of Spiderman?
  • JamboWayOh 16 Aug 2020 22:39:07 25,236 posts
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    @Tuffty

    It was a joke.
  • ChiefGB 16 Aug 2020 23:35:54 13,815 posts
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    I actually did feel that bw and iron man were better than the first two, only by then the mission structure got even worse. Run around a room smashing things for 5 mins then end. After the second almost identical one of these I turned it off again. There’s maybe something there but the mission designers just don’t have the chops for it from the looks of it.
  • DFawkes 16 Aug 2020 23:45:41 32,785 posts
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    Those are called Drop Zones, they're supposed to be the 5 minute time fillers when you don't have time to play the larger, more interesting missions. I can't remember the names but there's one on a city map, one in a fire forest and one in a snowy area that are longer, more open and more varied.
  • Derblington 17 Aug 2020 14:05:39 35,161 posts
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    Dataminers have pulled out the full list of (upcoming and launch) playable characters:

    Ant-Man
    Black Panther
    Captain Marvel
    Captain America
    Doctor Strange
    Falcon
    Hawkeye
    Hulk
    Hulkbuster
    Iron-Man
    Kamala
    Kate Bishop
    Mar-Vell
    Mockingbird
    Quake
    Scarlet Witch
    She-Hulk
    Thor
    Vision
    War Machine
    Wasp
    Black Widow
    Winter Soldier

    Edited by Derblington at 14:06:18 17-08-2020
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