Following Marvel's Avengers Page 17

  • DFawkes 29 Sep 2020 23:01:47 32,649 posts
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    Fine. I'm sorry my enjoyment of the game offends you. I won't post anymore.

    Edited by DFawkes at 23:02:14 29-09-2020
  • Your-Mother 29 Sep 2020 23:05:59 4,970 posts
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    You do you, buddy. I, and others, may think itís shit but if itís your personal GotY you go for it.
  • dfunked09 29 Sep 2020 23:06:47 516 posts
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    It's a bit shit in fairness. I'm suffering some serious buyers remorse for not just waiting for it to be £5 so that I could plough through the campaign and never play it again (which is exactly what I did, except for the waiting for it to be fiver part)

    Hell, I could've just downed a few cans of special brew and smashed my head against a wall for half an hour and it would have been a fiver better spent (how much even is a can of special brew?...)
  • JamboWayOh 30 Sep 2020 09:44:04 21,094 posts
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    Your-Mother wrote:
    You do you, buddy. I, and others, may think itís shit but if itís your personal GotY you go for it.
    Yeah this.
  • nickthegun 30 Sep 2020 09:51:27 83,331 posts
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    dfunked09 wrote:
    It's a bit shit in fairness. I'm suffering some serious buyers remorse for not just waiting for it to be £5
    Its probably one of the reasons its suffering. You dont buy live service games until at least a year after they have been released. You get more content and they are actually playable. I imagine a lot of people are holding off.

    As seen by that recent article on the front page. 'WE FIXED 1000 ISSUES!'. You mean you shipped a game with over 1000 issues?
  • Daeltaja 2 Oct 2020 12:02:53 1,838 posts
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    I'd completely forgotten I owned this until an update notification appeared on my dashboard. Like, how absolute SHIT is this game? The endgame is like a college project. I am genuinely flabbergasted at how terrible the who thing is. Really wish I didn't buy it at full price (or at all).

    Edited by Daeltaja at 12:03:45 02-10-2020
  • Tuffty 2 Oct 2020 13:53:45 4,646 posts
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    Enjoying going through the end game with mates at the minute but I swear there's always something that forces us to restart a checkpoint and its usually the 'Kill 5 guys' objective and one of them is clipped outside a closed door that we can't get past or one just somehow disappears off the map. Not through all the endgame and I would like them to sort out a lot of issues and performance first, but it also does feel like it needs this Hawkeye update to come out and give us new areas or mission types or something.

    Edited by Tuffty at 13:54:13 02-10-2020
  • Darth_Flibble 11 Oct 2020 16:58:29 4,500 posts
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    I thought someone would of mentioned the dropping player count

    in a lengthy statement provided to Kotaku, Crystal Dynamics Studio Head Scot Amos addressed concerns that there wasn't enough new content to keep people playing, as player counts on PC hover around 1000 and threaten to drop even lower.
    https://www.xboxachievements.com/news/news-36942-Marvel-s-Avengers-Promises-More-Content-as-Player-Numbers-Dwindle.html

    They really fucked up with the game that is a licence to print money
  • JamboWayOh 11 Oct 2020 17:00:27 21,094 posts
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    Millions of people...
  • creepiest-lizard 11 Oct 2020 17:02:50 2,162 posts
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    I wouldn't say too much. Someone will storm off in a hissy fit.
  • DFawkes 11 Oct 2020 17:57:45 32,649 posts
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    PC matchmaking is wonky to the point it's basically broken, which killed the player count, which made the broken matchmaking worse. Even I wouldn't touch it on PC. Not calling console matchmaking perfect but it mostly works now.
  • ChiefGB 11 Oct 2020 18:01:29 12,832 posts
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    @Darth_Flibble mainly because as predicted, no one is playing it or talking about it.
  • JamboWayOh 11 Oct 2020 18:04:25 21,094 posts
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    I'm baffled as to why they picked two separate Hawkeyes as the new characters for the next character drop. Not very inspiring.
  • creepiest-lizard 11 Oct 2020 18:05:08 2,162 posts
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    I just hope that the massive flop that this piece of shit is might mean less of these exploitative con jobs get made.
  • ChiefGB 11 Oct 2020 19:18:10 12,832 posts
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    @JamboWayOh is it just an alternate skin for each gender? Wouldnít surprise me.
  • DFawkes 11 Oct 2020 19:28:48 32,649 posts
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    ChiefGB wrote:
    @JamboWayOh is it just an alternate skin for each gender? Wouldnít surprise me.
    Nope, they're seperate characters. They've suggested Clint is closer to his Ronin persona and Kate is closer to a proper Hawkeye.

    I still agree with Jambo that 2 Hawkeye's isn't the most inspiring content they could open with. It'll probably come with a new faction and new outpost hub, but honestly that's just another thing to grind and another loading screen to go there.
  • JamboWayOh 11 Oct 2020 19:40:05 21,094 posts
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    I mean someone like Black Panther or Ant Man would've been the better option. Again, a licence to print money spaffed away.
  • dfunked09 11 Oct 2020 19:48:24 516 posts
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    I bet they had some kind of deal with Sony to not release any DLC characters that might overshadow Spidey...
    Or maybe they genuinely think two different versions of Hawkeye is enough for their first major update... Nah, it has to be the first thing.

    Wonder what'll happen when Spidey releases. Nothing else on Xbox/PC that month?
    Image how much worse the matchmaking would be when everybody wants to play as Spidey!

    Edited by dfunked09 at 19:49:59 11-10-2020
  • StarchildHypocrethes 11 Oct 2020 19:57:32 33,272 posts
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    I'm sure I'd read somewhere they'd had Black Panther lined up as an early release, but postponed it after Chadwick Boseman died.

    I may have made that up though.
  • dfunked09 11 Oct 2020 20:23:29 516 posts
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    Guess I'll have to give them some credit for being tasteful. Just a shame the game is a bit shit...
  • Derblington 11 Oct 2020 22:16:02 34,074 posts
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    Spider isnít coming until spring so itís nothing to do with him, and none of them will overshadow him regardless - heís Marvelís biggest character.
    Panther was delayed due to Bosemanís death - the reveal was set for shortly after he passed so they put Kate in his place.

    Thereís a list of characters coming first, itís not like Kate coming is preventing them. I canít see the game going anywhere, itís a live service so theyíll release them as they try to fix aspects of the game.
  • IronGiant 12 Oct 2020 00:25:32 6,148 posts
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    dfunked09 wrote:
    I bet they had some kind of deal with Sony to not release any DLC characters that might overshadow Spidey...
    Or maybe they genuinely think two different versions of Hawkeye is enough for their first major update... Nah, it has to be the first thing.

    Wonder what'll happen when Spidey releases. Nothing else on Xbox/PC that month?
    Image how much worse the matchmaking would be when everybody wants to play as Spidey!
    Spidey is their biggest character by far. Two versions of Hawkeye is bollocks tho.. is this game really that bad? Iíve not opened it yet was going to try it on PS5.
  • DFawkes 12 Oct 2020 08:13:30 32,649 posts
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    The core gameplay is pretty decent. 6 different characters with unique movesets and an interesting story.
    Since you already own it, I'd definitely recommend giving the campaign a go.

    It's just everything after that is basically various different ways to grind. Gear grind, faction grind, resource grind, level grind. So far it hasn't made any sort of case for it being games-as-service. Once you've done the campaign, you'll have seen almost all the best bits.
  • Your-Mother 16 Oct 2020 16:20:55 4,970 posts
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    Everything getting delayed - https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-10-16-marvels-avengers-next-gen-versions-delayed-into-2021

    Surely this'll end up being canned. I can't see the base game sustaining the momentum long enough.
  • oldskooldeano 16 Oct 2020 17:05:55 3,166 posts
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    Well I sit in the Ďwait until itís cheapí camp and I bet Iím not alone. If the game is better, later, then there might be some life? Itís not quite an ĎAnthemí yet, admittedly itís bloody close.
  • Your-Mother 16 Oct 2020 17:08:37 4,970 posts
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    But surely the ďwait until itís cheapĒ camp is a virtual match for the ďwonít spend money on battle passes and micro transaction stuffĒ camp too? If live service games donít pull in a profit they get switched off.
  • nickthegun 16 Oct 2020 17:10:20 83,331 posts
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    Itís more Ďwait until itís finishedí. If it goes tits up before itís worth playing, it didnít deserve your money anyway.
  • oldskooldeano 16 Oct 2020 17:10:31 3,166 posts
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    Err yes you got me there! I could maybe payout for a hero if I really wanted them? Thatís a battle pass right?
  • StarchildHypocrethes 16 Oct 2020 17:10:56 33,272 posts
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    Hah, what an utter clusterfuck.
  • dfunked09 16 Oct 2020 17:16:14 516 posts
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    @oldskooldeano
    You get all the heroes for free, but have to pay for their cosmetic rewards. It's all pretty pointless fluff, and only something you'd pay for if you were heavily invested in the character. Definitely not something for people who dip into the campaign and try a couple of strikes before giving up and moving on to a better game. (like me!)

    https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-08-29-every-post-launch-marvels-avengers-hero-will-have-its-own-usd10-battle-pass
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