Super Mario 3D All-Stars Page 7

  • ChuChuRkt 22 Sep 2020 00:56:51 65 posts
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    I hate to moan about the game, as all the moaners piss me off but.....

    do the Sunshine controls feel Ďoffí to anyone else? They feel very twitchy and hard to get precise position. Iím using a Pro Controller and a slow walk turns into a run with virtually no pressure. Iíve just had to turn the game off after trying to get the cage star in Ricco Harbour and itís been a nightmare. I even booted up the GameCube version and did it on my 2nd attempt and then back to the Switch and not even close.

    I can live with the awful camera as thatís just a sign of the times but the controls really donít feel right.
  • ukaskew37 22 Sep 2020 08:25:17 266 posts
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    Duffking wrote:
    Read a sign? Fuck you run ten laps around it.
    This made me laugh, been doing this A LOT!
  • Gregolution 22 Sep 2020 08:56:59 10,194 posts
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    ChuChuRkt wrote:
    I hate to moan about the game, as all the moaners piss me off but.....

    do the Sunshine controls feel Ďoffí to anyone else? They feel very twitchy and hard to get precise position. Iím using a Pro Controller and a slow walk turns into a run with virtually no pressure. Iíve just had to turn the game off after trying to get the cage star in Ricco Harbour and itís been a nightmare. I even booted up the GameCube version and did it on my 2nd attempt and then back to the Switch and not even close.

    I can live with the awful camera as thatís just a sign of the times but the controls really donít feel right.
    Yeah I had a quick go at sunshine and they felt very twitchy to me too. Struggled with that more than Mario 64.
  • DFawkes 22 Sep 2020 09:48:00 32,649 posts
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    I thought it was just me! When carefully walking slowly over an edge and dropping down to another, or jumping across a gap, he seems to take a couple more steps at full speed as if you had moved the stick hard. It's that transition from slow to fast without further input that's throwing me off and I'm not sure I'll ever get a feel for it.

    It's not bad as such, just very not Mario like. I did play Sunshine a little on Gamecube and don't remember it being like that.
  • ChuChuRkt 22 Sep 2020 12:14:23 65 posts
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    Thanks for the validation 😊 Glad to hear it wasnít just me.

    I have an 8BitDo SN30 Pro+ pad that I may create a profile for just for Sunshine and see if I can take the edge off the twitchiness a little.
  • jonathanlealand 22 Sep 2020 23:11:14 95 posts
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    Galaxy is just superb isnít it, pure injection of fun.
  • mikew1985 22 Sep 2020 23:48:49 14,934 posts
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    jonathanlealand wrote:
    Galaxy is just superb isnít it, pure injection of fun.
    Yes.

    Except for the shit surfing mini game. Jesus whoever designed and built it should be murdered.
  • jonathanlealand 23 Sep 2020 21:52:01 95 posts
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    I donít remember a surfing mini-game but I guess Iíll be reacquainted fairly soon,
  • TheBear 23 Sep 2020 22:15:26 4,734 posts
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  • mikew1985 24 Sep 2020 08:34:34 14,934 posts
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    The manta Ray, no edges, motion controlled surfing mini game.

    It's truly awful.
  • RyanDS 24 Sep 2020 08:43:09 13,364 posts
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    mikew1985 wrote:
    The manta Ray, no edges, motion controlled surfing mini game.

    It's truly awful.
    I am struggling with the slingshot race. Fucking has a timer down to 1:30 that i thought was the target but the ghost beats me by ages even if I get under.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 24 Sep 2020 08:43:54 20,990 posts
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    It made my son cry yesterday.
  • Deleted user 24 September 2020 09:12:52
    mikew1985 wrote:
    The manta Ray, no edges, motion controlled surfing mini game.

    It's truly awful.
    I am no gaming expert but ive always found this quite easy. Slow it down a tad when cornering and you should never come off.
  • Deleted user 24 September 2020 09:14:12
    RyanDS wrote:
    mikew1985 wrote:
    The manta Ray, no edges, motion controlled surfing mini game.

    It's truly awful.
    I am struggling with the slingshot race. Fucking has a timer down to 1:30 that i thought was the target but the ghost beats me by ages even if I get under.
    Are you hitting the gold star mid way through that sends you flying across cutting a portion of the course out?
  • ukaskew37 24 Sep 2020 09:28:22 266 posts
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    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    It made my son cry yesterday.
    This is amusing, my (6 year old) also shed a tear over this yesterday, which was actually quite shocking as he never cries.

    Strangely enough I breezed through it, just lift off B on sharp corners and be very subtle with the controller (I have it attached to the grip) and it was done in about 1 minute so plenty of time to spare.

    I found the early Candy Galaxy tricky though, took a few attempts at that.
  • el_pollo_diablo 24 Sep 2020 12:41:54 3,042 posts
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    Iím trying to play M64 first but Galaxy is calling out to me.
  • Steifybobbins 24 Sep 2020 13:38:32 710 posts
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    el_pollo_diablo wrote:
    Iím trying to play M64 first but Galaxy is calling out to me.
    I've been dipping into all three particularly 64 and Galaxy I'm 54 stars into 64 and 46 into galaxy. The gaming tapas nature of star collecting lends itself well to this. I'm Finding both an absolute joy despite the age of 64. From a gameplay standpoint its every bit as fun as galaxy which makes dipping in and out of both much easier.
  • waggy79 24 Sep 2020 13:47:29 2,326 posts
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    I'm only about 20 stars into all 3 games at the mo but agree, they're different enough that when I've done a few in one i can hop over to another and it feels relatively fresh. Most of it is muscle memory at this point though Sunshine has moments I'd completely forgotten.
  • Steifybobbins 24 Sep 2020 14:19:51 710 posts
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    waggy79 wrote:
    I'm only about 20 stars into all 3 games at the mo but agree, they're different enough that when I've done a few in one i can hop over to another and it feels relatively fresh. Most of it is muscle memory at this point though Sunshine has moments I'd completely forgotten.

    I think I must have some sort of brain issue. Outside of narrative games I can and do forget almost everything beyond the broad brush stuff. It's kind of worrying but it does mean I can be suprised by something I've seen before!
  • Gregolution 24 Sep 2020 14:59:38 10,194 posts
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    Is sunshine 100%able? Its one of the few major mario games I don't remember a whole lot about. I definitely played it but I definitely also didn't finish it.
  • Kay 24 Sep 2020 16:01:29 20,781 posts
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    Yes, it is. It's not worth the hassle though tbh.
  • Zerobob 24 Sep 2020 16:24:58 2,556 posts
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    I've been concentrating exclusively on Mario 64 so far, got about 30 something stars, but I've played through this initial section of 64 so many times, both back in the day and more recently on emulators.

    Despite this, I've never managed to get all the stars in 64 and I said to myself this will probably be the last good opportunity to fully complete it, so I really want to do that before moving on... but Galaxy is calling and it looks great, plus I've never played it before. I might start dipping in and out of all 3 games now too.
  • Gregolution 24 Sep 2020 18:18:22 10,194 posts
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    @Zerobob first game I ever got 100% completion on and it was great! Worth it.
  • el_pollo_diablo 24 Sep 2020 21:00:22 3,042 posts
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    How many stars are there in 64?
  • BigOrkWaaagh 24 Sep 2020 21:01:28 9,704 posts
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    @el_pollo_diablo 120
  • JoelStinty 24 Sep 2020 21:04:53 9,024 posts
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    Started of with Galaxy. Only collected 10 stars so far. Perfect game (s) to drop in and out of for 20 minutes here and there. Bit like Greg above, feels like a new game. Canít remember much about it.
  • jonathanlealand 24 Sep 2020 22:03:00 95 posts
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    @mikew1985 In hindsight there are certainly one or two levels that were really just motion-control gimmicks, like the surfing one.
  • mikew1985 24 Sep 2020 22:05:08 14,934 posts
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    Sunshine is fun but so buggy and loose compared to almost every other mario title.

    It's great to have a solid, 16:9 HD version as there are certainly some good moments in it. I've only picked up about 25ish shines but some of the challenges are so of a time (and bad). The eel teeth cleaning shine is so monotonous that you think, there is no way someone designed it this way on purpose but then you remember loads of games had crap, artificially long + frustrating challenges back in the early to mid 2000s.
  • mikew1985 24 Sep 2020 22:06:26 14,934 posts
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    jonathanlealand wrote:
    @mikew1985 In hindsight there are certainly one or two levels that were really just motion-control gimmicks, like the surfing one.
    And some of them are even mildly interesting but the surfing one that you get to with the green star is just not fun. It's just a shoehorn for motion controls.
  • mikew1985 24 Sep 2020 22:07:53 14,934 posts
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    On the plus side I did the daredevil run for bouldergeist on my third try. I remember struggling with that with the stupid waggle spin. Button press is so much better.
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